PR "JUST A GUY" NOMINATIONS

[Patler]

Some comments from a Dolphins' fan site at the time Miamia got rid of him:

Comments from disgruntled Dolphin fans after he left Miami?

You can do better than that.

I did! Didn't you read the sections of quotes from disgruntled fans the year BEFORE he left Miami !

[woodbuck27]

I do, in fact, like Martin well enough...Martin has #3 WR potential.

Yes! Somebody sees the light. Join the Ruvell Martin fan club! It currently consists of one member....me. I'm sure we'll get more people. Maybe, one day, we'll have as many people as the TT fan club.

I too pull for Ruvell Martin, Ballhawk.

I've been there since we signed him because I love his work etic or attitude.

Not speaking for he but I sence that MJ Ziggy likes him as well

[woodbuck27]

It's alot easier to name those Packers that arn't just a guy than those that are.

Those I really like as football players are:

Favre
Driver

Jennings needs more time to assess him

Tauscher

Clifton is about done

The remainder of the OL needs time to assess properly.

Kampman and Jenkins

I felt that Ryan Pickett was slow in delivering last season and I like Corey Williams and wonder why the delay in extending him with about $9 million under the CAP.

Hawk
Barnett

Our safety's are still not up to speed and the verdict will come in on Nick Collins this season.

Harris
Woodson

That demonstrats how far I believe we have to go.

[Patler]

My recollection is that Lee was pretty good catching the ball in 2005 and had trouble last year.

Nope, he was the worst on the team in percentage of drops in 2005, among the players with a significant amount of passes thrown their way.

Henderson - 0/24
Chatman - 2/86 - 2.3%
Franks - 1/39 - 2.6%
Martin - 1/39 - 2.6%
Fisher - 2/65 - 3.1%
Green - 1/26 - 3.9%
Driver - 6/149 - 4%
Ferguson - 3/58 - 5.2%
Donald Lee - 4/53 - 7.6%

[HarveyWallbangers]

4/53 That isn't great, but I don't consider that astronomical. Numbers can be funny. He had less opportunities. Probably harder to catch every ball when you know you won't get many opportunities. I'm not saying he has great hands, but drops are a subjective statistic.

What were his numbers in 2006?

[Patler]

4/53 That isn't great, but I don't consider that astronomical. Numbers can be funny. He had less opportunities. Probably harder to catch every ball when you know you won't get many opportunities. I'm not saying he has great hands, but drops are a subjective statistic.

What were his numbers in 2006?

Dropping one of every 13 passes thrown your way is certainly not real good, and 53 opportunities is not too bad.

In 2006 he had 5 drops in 22 opportunities.

My whole point is that this has been a consistent problem for Lee. Franks had one bad year as far as drops are concerned. The drops won't improve by having Lee in there.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What were Bubba's stats last year?

[Patler]

Probably the more interesting question in my mind is why were drops dramatically up for the entire team?

Green had six drops from 2003-2005, then had his worst season ever in 2006 with 8 drops in 63 opportunities.

Henderson hadn't dropped a pass since 2003, then had 2 drops in 17 opportunities last year.
Martin went from 1 of 39 in 2005 to 3 of 35 in 2006.
Franks 1 of 39 in 2005; 6 of 53 in 2006.
Lee 4 of 53 to 5 of 22.

About the only one with improved performance was Driver, 6 of 149 to 6 of 170.

These guys are professionals. You wouldn't think a change in offense design would have prolonged effects, but maybe it did.

[Fritz]

Junius Coston is too young to be "just a guy" but if he makes the team, contributes nothing, and comes back next year for a repeat of same, then he's just a guy.

Other "just a guy"s...Donald Lee, Ruvell Martin, Tracy White, Ferguson, Mike Montgomery, Manuel, Dendy, Frank White, Charlie Peprah, Jeb Bush (or whatever that corner's name is), Tory Humphrey, Carlton Brewster, and, if he doesn't improve this year, Bubba Franks.

Do we have a Frank White on the team

Oops...Tracey White. And Frank Walker.

I too am mytified as to why Coston is not at the OTA's. He seems bright enough and from the accounts I've read is personable; I'm guessing he had a real family problem or emergency to deal with.

[wist43]

Hopefully Lee will come around... his drops could be a function of not being comfortable. Not understanding the coverage, i.e. he reads zone, but it's man, and even though he's in the clear, he gets alligator arms in anticipation of getting nailed.

For Lee, I think it's the mental aspects of the game that lead to his drops... in the end, it doesn't matter what is causing him to lose focus and drop the ball, if he doesn't get it fixed he won't be around long.

[MJZiggy]

I do, in fact, like Martin well enough...Martin has #3 WR potential.

Yes! Somebody sees the light. Join the Ruvell Martin fan club! It currently consists of one member....me. I'm sure we'll get more people. Maybe, one day, we'll have as many people as the TT fan club.

I too pull for Ruvell Martin, Ballhawk.

I've been there since we signed him because I love his work etic or attitude.

Not speaking for he but I sence that MJ Ziggy likes him as well

Yeah, I've been rooting for Ruvell. I'd like to see him elevate himself and become more of a threat.