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    Posted June 7, 2007

    Ryan takes two steps to success

    Second-year punter loses a step in hopes of improving consistency


    By Rob Demovsky
    rdemovsk@greenbaypressgazette.com

    For 18 years, Jon Ryan punted pretty much the same way — catch the ball, take three steps and fire away.

    "I've been a three-step punter since I was 7 years old," the 25-year-old said.

    In the last five months, the Green Bay Packers' punter has undergone an overhaul of his mechanics. In that time, Ryan eliminated one step from his approach, and he believes the change will make him more consistent than he was last season.

    "It's still a work in progress," Ryan said last week when the Packers opened their organized team activity workouts.

    "But I really like how it feels so far."

    The transformation into a two-step punter was born out of a season wrap-up meeting with special-teams coordinator Mike Stock only days after Ryan finished his first season as an NFL punter.

    The strong-legged Ryan, a former CFL standout, ranked ninth in the NFL in average (44.5 yards) but was tied for 26th in net average (35.7), in part because his hang times were inconsistent.

    In Stock's evaluation of Ryan, he determined the change in mechanics was the best way for his punter to improve his hang times.

    "It was Coach Stock's idea, but I recognized last year there were times when I could have been more consistent," Ryan said.

    "If you look at it on film, my steps were getting too long, and I was too out of control. We thought if I could eliminate that first step and just take two steps, everything would be more compact and more consistent."

    So, Ryan left Green Bay after the season and began the change five months ago, when he began his offseason workouts at home in Canada on Jan. 6.

    He resumed his work with Stock when the Packers' offseason program began on March 19.

    "It's a big change, but I think I put enough hours into it this offseason that the more I reps I got, the more comfortable I got," Ryan said.

    "I'd say I'm about 90 percent comfortable with it. I think it will increase hang time. I don't think power is my problem. It's just harnessing that power a little bit more and trying to be more consistent."

    Changing a punter's steps can be a difficult task. When the Packers picked B.J. Sander in the third round of the 2004 draft, he struggled so badly during his rookie training camp that they tried to get him to shorten his steps. John Bonamego, then the Packers' special-teams coach, thought Sander's 2½-step motion might not allow him to get the ball off fast enough, so he tried to get Sander to change to what he called a 2¼-step delivery.

    Sander, who didn't play as a rookie, never fully grasped that technique and struggled in 2005 — his only season as the Packers' punter. He has not kicked in the NFL since.

    Ryan doesn't believe the change will cause him problems.

    "I feel more comfortable with this than I did last year at this time with the three steps," Ryan said.

    "Hopefully, that's going to show come training camp and during the season that I worked on it and improved a lot."

    It showed last Thursday, when Ryan punted "live" with his new motion for the first time during a team (11-on-11) setting.

    During a pair of special-teams periods, Ryan punted from the opponent's 45-yard line into a slight wind. The goal of the drill was to kick directionally — once left and once right — and pin the opposing team deep in its territory.

    In 16 punts in the first period, Ryan had 13 inside the 20 (including five inside the 10) and two touchbacks.

    In the second period, Ryan kicked 10 times and had eight inside the 20 (including four inside the 10) and one touchback.


    After last week's session, Ryan said he was pleased with the results.

    "It's more mental than anything, believing that you can still get the same amount of power with shorter strides," Ryan said.

    "The toughest thing is just getting over that mental hurdle. Once you get over that, you're fine."

    The only other punter on the Packers' roster is Australian David Lonie, who was in training camp with the Washington Redskins last year but never has appeared in an NFL regular-season game.

    Lonie looked shaky early in last week's practice but improved as the session went on.

    "We need to be more consistent in the punting," coach Mike McCarthy said during the Packers' last minicamp.

    "That's something we addressed in our team goals for the upcoming year."
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  • #2
    I really appreciate the way you highlight the important things in bold. It really makes it easier and quicker to read. Thanks a lot.

    Great news about Ryan. I hope he ends up being one of Ted's good finds.
    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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    • #3
      I know they tried tried to change BJ's steps and it didn't work but he never seemed to have much confidence either. Watching Ryan last year and knowing what he was going through with his father's health makes me want to pull for him a bit. A few of his punts were line drives and some were booming 60 yarders, I think he has the confidence and a great leg strength to boot, (pun intended), and if he can be more consistent he'll make people stop wondering why Wolf wouldn't give Craig Hentrich $1mil/yr, that still baffles me.
      Thanks Ted!

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      • #4
        As we say down under "Come on Aussie, c'mon c'mon, come on Aussie c'mon".

        I admit, that sounds better when you hear the tune that is supposed to go with the cry!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          As we say down under "Come on Aussie, c'mon c'mon, come on Aussie c'mon".

          I admit, that sounds better when you hear the tune that is supposed to go with the cry!
          Thought it was " Go Aussie, go, & take Tarlem with ya"!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KYPack
            Originally posted by Tarlam!
            As we say down under "Come on Aussie, c'mon c'mon, come on Aussie c'mon".

            I admit, that sounds better when you hear the tune that is supposed to go with the cry!
            Thought it was " Go Aussie, go, & take Tarlem with ya"!

            Nice one Shep!

            There was a GREAT Aussie Rules Football quote that was "Up there Gazalie", but "there" was switched for "their" if you know what I am saying. Gazalie was a beast!

            Turned out to be a fighting song....

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            • #7
              Back on topic here. I'd like to see 'em do anything that stops Ryan from hitting those liners. He led the league in yds returned average. Many of those liners got run back for big yardage.

              Changing his step count could screw him up big time. I think he needs to quicken his pace. Ryan's got a big time leg, he needs to improve his technique.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KYPack
                Back on topic here. ()Changing his step count could screw him up big time.
                Obviously, the staff hate Canadian punters, and want an Aussie instead. They are mapping it all out for Ryan as we tipe.

                Tough is only, he won the tough guy award and the guys in the front office are concerned about PR - especially with woodrow.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KYPack
                  Back on topic here. I'd like to see 'em do anything that stops Ryan from hitting those liners. He led the league in yds returned average. Many of those liners got run back for big yardage.

                  Changing his step count could screw him up big time. I think he needs to quicken his pace. Ryan's got a big time leg, he needs to improve his technique.
                  Yeah, but he did have to kick to Hester twice, which probably fucked up his average a bit. Oh, wait, Hester didn't do shit in the final game, we clamped him down good. That reminds me, i still have that game TVO'd, maybe I'll watch it for the twentieth time this offseason.
                  "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                  • #10
                    If this two step thing doesn't work, Ryan will be singing that old Lynrd Skynrd song, "Gimme Three Steps."

                    Geezuz, this better work. If it doesn't, the Pack will get stuck with another Louie Aguilar. OPr maybe the actual Louie Aguilar.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      If this two step thing doesn't work, Ryan will be singing that old Lynrd Skynrd song, "Gimme Three Steps."

                      Geezuz, this better work. If it doesn't, the Pack will get stuck with another Louie Aguilar. OPr maybe the actual Louie Aguilar.
                      I like that song. But what was Linda Lou talking to him for in the first place?
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #12
                        She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

                        But really, is there any need for gunplay?

                        Originally posted by MJZiggy
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        If this two step thing doesn't work, Ryan will be singing that old Lynrd Skynrd song, "Gimme Three Steps."

                        Geezuz, this better work. If it doesn't, the Pack will get stuck with another Louie Aguilar. OPr maybe the actual Louie Aguilar.
                        I like that song. But what was Linda Lou talking to him for in the first place?
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          One of the reasons that punters commonly bounce around for several years before they stick with a team is that most have to change their approach radically from what they used in college. Must of them try to decrease their steps, have to learn to catch the ball while already stepping forward and drop the ball from a different spot. As a resullt, they are inconsistent for a few years.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            If this two step thing doesn't work, Ryan will be singing that old Lynrd Skynrd song, "Gimme Three Steps."

                            Geezuz, this better work. If it doesn't, the Pack will get stuck with another Louie Aguilar. OPr maybe the actual Louie Aguilar.
                            Can you say, "Ingle Martin"?

                            Actually, I'm pretty confident this can work. He seems pretty tough mentally, and even if cutting a step costs him a little power, he still has plenty to spare.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              Ryan's a great guy and I wish him nothing but the best, but man, he's a real pain to listen to in interviews. He's got a real bad speech defect.
                              "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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