P Jon Ryan loses a step in hopes of improving consistency

[HarveyWallbangers]

She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

But really, is there any need for gunplay?

Apparently, the song was based on a true story involving Ronnie.

[Tarlam!]

...have to learn to catch the ball while already stepping forward and drop the ball from a different spot....

This is something that every Aussie kid playing Rugby or Aussie Rules learns aged 5 years. It is an integral part of our games. So is being attacked by 6-8 guys while you're trying to get the ball off your foot. That's a part of it, too!

The thing Aussies struggle with is the ball used in Gridiron. Especially with the change to the K-Ball.

I love Jon Ryan, but I still hope an Aussie beats him out. If it were anyone else in the punting comp, I would be for Jon all the way.

[KYPack]

She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

But really, is there any need for gunplay?

Apparently, the song was based on a true story involving Ronnie.

The incident happened to Ronnie in Jacksonville ( the boys hometown ). Ronnie asked the best looking girl in a bar to slow dance. In the middle of the song, a huge county dude pulled a gun on Ronnie and threatened to shoot him for dancing with his woman.

The crowd opened up and Van Zandt told the guy, "Buddy if you shoot me, you're gonna have to hit me in the asshole or the elbow". With that, Ronnie VZ ran out the back door of the joint. This incident was a favorite story with the boys in the band & after a couple years, they made a tune out of it.

[MJZiggy]

She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

But really, is there any need for gunplay?

Apparently, the song was based on a true story involving Ronnie.

The incident happened to Ronnie in Jacksonville ( the boys hometown ). Ronnie asked the best looking girl in a bar to slow dance. In the middle of the song, a huge county dude pulled a gun on Ronnie and threatened to shoot him for dancing with his woman.

The crowd opened up and Van Zandt told the guy, "Buddy if you shoot me, you're gonna have to hit me in the asshole or the elbow". With that, Ronnie VZ ran out the back door of the joint. This incident was a favorite story with the boys in the band & after a couple years, they made a tune out of it.

But I don't get it. Why shoot him when he should have been pissed at her?

[KYPack]

She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

But really, is there any need for gunplay?

Apparently, the song was based on a true story involving Ronnie.

The incident happened to Ronnie in Jacksonville ( the boys hometown ). Ronnie asked the best looking girl in a bar to slow dance. In the middle of the song, a huge county dude pulled a gun on Ronnie and threatened to shoot him for dancing with his woman.

The crowd opened up and Van Zandt told the guy, "Buddy if you shoot me, you're gonna have to hit me in the asshole or the elbow". With that, Ronnie VZ ran out the back door of the joint. This incident was a favorite story with the boys in the band & after a couple years, they made a tune out of it.

But I don't get it. Why shoot him when he should have been pissed at her?

He didn't shoot him.

In both the song and the real life incident, the guy screamed at his woman...

"Well the crowd cleared away
And I began to pray
As the water fell on the floor.
And Im telling you son,
Well, it aint no fun
Staring straight down a forty-four.
Well he turned and screamed at linda lu
And thats the break I was looking for.
And you could hear me screaming a mile away
As I was headed out towards the door."

Ronnie made it out the door both times, for real and in his song.

He wasn't as successful with airplanes, unfortunately.

[Merlin]

I think blaming poor punt coverage on the Ryan is like giving a chimp a gun and when he shoots someone, blaming the chimp. Face it, our special teams suck ass and have for several years now. Blaming Ryan who came from the CFL where booming the ball 60+ yards on a rope is how the game is played is moronic.

Place the blame where it needs to be placed, TT. Not only has he done zero for the offense, what has he done for special teams (and don't say let BJ go because any "chimp" would have done at least that). I love the hell out of Ryan and I hope they get it figured out, but when you have the Taco Wallace of special teams coaches in the NFL, a new coaching staff and a team full of rookies with a punter who grew up playing a different variation of the game, blaming the "chimps" is just plain wrong!

[MJZiggy]

Learn something new every day. I had no idea TT could punt. Weren't half the players he drafted this offseason supposed to be decent ST players? That's the one positive I heard over all the complaining, was that at least he addressed special teams...

[Merlin]

"Special Teams" is an excuse when you reach to draft someone who has little talent. From what I hear from training camp, no one can catch the damn punts, not even the veterans. Filling your special teams with all rookies is pretty smart football, if you play in NFLE. So is picking up a punter from the CFL and expecting him to be an NFL punter out of the gate. When the CFL punter fails to make the adjustments because the coaches you hired to teach him take a year to make adjustments and then saying it's the punters fault for the high return yards is ludicrous. Try the coaches who are there to teach him, the coaches who decide who plays on special teams, the guy who hires the coaches, the guy who evaluates the talent and then drafts such talent. So yeah, TT does punt, a lot.

[Tarlam!]

I have a sneaking suspician, though I am not 100% sure, that Merlin is NOT a TT supporter. In fact, he might be considered anti-TT.

This is just a hunch, mind....

[woodbuck27]

I have a sneaking suspician, though I am not 100% sure, that Merlin is NOT a TT supporter. In fact, he might be considered anti-TT.

This is just a hunch, mind....

He's certainly then,

Observant and accurate in his assessments.

[Tarlam!]

He's certainly then, ()Observant and accurate in his assessments()

That's an opinion. It's like an asshole, everyone has one.

[Zool]

He's certainly then, ()Observant and accurate in his assessments()

That's an opinion. It's like an asshole, everyone has one.

If I were drinking milk right now, it would have come out my nose.

[MJZiggy]

"Special Teams" is an excuse when you reach to draft someone who has little talent. From what I hear from training camp, no one can catch the damn punts, not even the veterans. Filling your special teams with all rookies is pretty smart football, if you play in NFLE. So is picking up a punter from the CFL and expecting him to be an NFL punter out of the gate. When the CFL punter fails to make the adjustments because the coaches you hired to teach him take a year to make adjustments and then saying it's the punters fault for the high return yards is ludicrous. Try the coaches who are there to teach him, the coaches who decide who plays on special teams, the guy who hires the coaches, the guy who evaluates the talent and then drafts such talent. So yeah, TT does punt, a lot.

Tell it to Devin Hester...

[Creepy]

What punter should have TT gotten last year? Was there a good/great punter available? Don't remember any, and not every punt returned was a line drive. I recall somne long returns because gunners missed or the PR broke their tackle.

Ryan had some good and some bad punts and it is expected in a rookie. In the CFL they have more room to kick and there are is no fair catches. The KR has a 5 yard cussion to start his return. So booming line drives are used to make the KR chase the ball. In the NFL hang time is more importatnt as it allows the ST to get under the ball.

I think Ryna did a decent job for a rookie, this year he needs to take it to a higher level and if he loses 1/2 yards per kick, but increases his hang time so he incraeses his Net by 2/3 yards i will be satisfied.

[Fritz]

She wasn't just talking Ziggy, she was dancing. Probably worse than just talking from the point of view of the "man who cares".

But really, is there any need for gunplay?

Apparently, the song was based on a true story involving Ronnie.

The incident happened to Ronnie in Jacksonville ( the boys hometown ). Ronnie asked the best looking girl in a bar to slow dance. In the middle of the song, a huge county dude pulled a gun on Ronnie and threatened to shoot him for dancing with his woman.

The crowd opened up and Van Zandt told the guy, "Buddy if you shoot me, you're gonna have to hit me in the asshole or the elbow". With that, Ronnie VZ ran out the back door of the joint. This incident was a favorite story with the boys in the band & after a couple years, they made a tune out of it.

But I don't get it. Why shoot him when he should have been pissed at her?

Ziggy, you clearly are not from the south. In the south, back in the day, women were - in public - sometimes seen as possessions. Thus, while the guy could and did blame Linda Lou later, his first obligation was to make it clear to Ronnie that his possessions, in this case Linda Lou, were not to be messed with.

But it makes you wonder if Linda Lou wanted to see some fireworks. If she knew her man had a temper and a gun, and she still consented to a slow dance with Ronnie, well, it makes you wonder what she wanted, exactly.