The Official ULTIMATE debate thread on TT!

[Tarlam!]

Time for a showdown... TT has Fans, Anti-Fans and, shall we say, "Others".

To judge his performance, we need to assess what he's done, and not done. What was good, bad and even ugly.

I suggest a "rule" to enhance the debate:

One action (non action) that you applaud or detest per post. I further suggest we address only a single action in a response.

Why? I want to encourage "lurkers" to join the discussion and maybe PR on a regular basis, and I believe there is plenty of passion on this subject.

Furthermore, it will make it easier for me to keep "score" during periodical summaries.

Ready? GO!!!

[Tarlam!]

I applaud TT drafting Hawk.

[Charles Woodson]

I applaud TT drafting Hawk.

Im with you on that one,

I detest TT for not getting Justin Griffith.

[Tarlam!]

TT doesn't have 16 WR on the roster:

A quick look at the Detroit salary cap, and you quickly realize the Lions have used a lot of salary-cap space to figure out the position -- and they haven't even signed Calvin Johnson yet. On the 2007 books, there are 16 wide receivers using up cap space. Mike Williams, Charles Rogers, Corey Bradford are no longer on the team but will eat up $10,229,720 of space this season (close to 10 percent of the cap). When Johnson finally signs his contract, the Lions will have close to $28 million in wide receivers alone. Throw in the dead money Ross Verba, James Hall, Dre Bly, Josh McCown and Marcus Pollard represent (a combined $6.4 million), and you can see the cost of getting a roster corrected.

It's interesting to note the emotional state of the present Lions players -- remember Jon Kitna's 10-win prediction? -- is at an all time high. No one seems to miss any of the departed players.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10245197

[esoxx]

I'm think it will be appropriate to judge after this season is over. At this point, his players are too young to make any real conclusions. I'm willing to wait and see.

After this season my opinion will be clearly shaped of him.

[BallHawk]

If God was starting a football team, Jesus would be the coach and Ted Thompson would be the GM.

[Tarlam!]

I'm think it will be appropriate to judge after this season is over. At this point, his players are too young to make any real conclusions. I'm willing to wait and see.

After this season my opinion will be clearly shaped of him.

Ya, but what move(non-move) will you argue...?

[Fred's Slacks]

I am a fan. Not a huge fan yet but I like the direction he's going in. In my opinion, his biggest mistake was not resigning Wahle.

[Fred's Slacks]

I applaud him for signing Woodsen when few others wanted him. Great signing.

[Tony Oday]

Not overpaying for Rivera or Green. Getting rid of that Biatch Walker.

[Bretsky]

If God was starting a football team, Jesus would be the coach and Ted Thompson would be the GM.

[Bretsky]

I"d be between anti and other; I've set parameters to judge the Snapper by and am willing to give him one more year to show measured improvement before truly judging him.

I've liked some of his moves, disliked some of his moves, and disliked his lack of moves in free agency.

While I acknowledge he knows far more than I do, so has every other GM who has been a miserable failure or huge success so I'm not putting on the blinders because of his position.

Time will tell if he's the real deal or a Fraud.

[MadtownPacker]

I"d be between anti and other

Save the YOU hate him and you know it!

While I was severely disappointed in TT for not getting that scumbag moss and though Justin Griffith was a perfect fit for the ZBS I can see the big picture and I am solidly on the TT wagon.

From 4-12 in 2005 to 8-8 in 2006 = (dare I say, 12-4?) in 2007, the Green Bay Packers are on the rise and even the harshest or most ignorant sports reporters don't deny that.

IMO - Woodson can be considered one, if not the best, FA pickup of the year in '06.

"Get the team ready" Teddy aint no joke!!! Believe dat!!

[MJZiggy]

I'll combine this into one simple post for you, Tar, (my count is high enough--don't need to pad it)

I was no big fan of Adrian Klemm

I LOVED it when he extended Donald Driver...

[GBRulz]

Because there isn't enough continual debating about TT that goes on in this forum already??

Anyhow, letting Green go and not having a replacement (a body doesn't count) was my pet peeve.