Just a Few Opinions

[MJZiggy]

I thought everyone already knew of my undying devotion to Henry...

[Scott Campbell]

I thought everyone already knew of my undying devotion to Henry...

Uh ohhhhhh.........tell me you didn't go Tom Jones on the guy and throw your undies up there.

[Scott Campbell]

....a backstage pass......
...a few too many cocktails to wash down the guacamole dip............


We get the picture Zigs.

[MJZiggy]

I thought everyone already knew of my undying devotion to Henry...

Uh ohhhhhh.........tell me you didn't go Tom Jones on the guy and throw your undies up there.

Damn. I didn't think of that...

[Bretsky]

I thought everyone already knew of my undying devotion to Henry...

Who the hell is Henry ? Hank Aaron ?

We only know of your undying devotion to the Snapper.

Other than that many of us probably have not heard of this yahoo


Cheers,
B

[Noodle]

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On other hand he has had three free agent periods..........

Only if you count the first year when Sherman had already spent all Ted's money. I can't hold that against Ted.

Just imagine the magic he would have done in FA if only he'd had the cash.

Ok, sorry, that was snarky, and I take your point. But this really does have to be the year we see some significant improvement of the team.

What I find a little worrisome is that in league-wide ratings of different units (LBs, WRs, RBs, TEs, etc), folks consistently rank the Pack in the middle to bottom of the pack.

A lot of times those raters don't know squat, but, as much as I like a lot of our guys, I don't think they stack up well talent-wise with other teams in the league. That's on TT. Especially when you look at the so-called "playmaker" positions, we are going to have to hope that a bunch of very young guys, inlcuding rooks like Jackson, play lights out.

[Bretsky]

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On other hand he has had three free agent periods..........

Only if you count the first year when Sherman had already spent all Ted's money. I can't hold that against Ted.

Just imagine the magic he would have done in FA if only he'd had the cash.

Ok, sorry, that was snarky, and I take your point. But this really does have to be the year we see some significant improvement of the team.

What I find a little worrisome is that in league-wide ratings of different units (LBs, WRs, RBs, TEs, etc), folks consistently rank the Pack in the middle to bottom of the pack.

A lot of times those raters don't know squat, but, as much as I like a lot of our guys, I don't think they stack up well talent-wise with other teams in the league. That's on TT. Especially when you look at the so-called "playmaker" positions, we are going to have to hope that a bunch of very young guys, inlcuding rooks like Jackson, play lights out.

AMEN; but if you'd ask TT he'd say we're just fine there and improvement will come from within.

Wait, whose to say our young guys develop and improve more than the rest of the young guys on teams in the NFL ?

We better hope they do.

Judges will be out soon in 07

[the_idle_threat]

A lot of times those raters don't know squat, but, as much as I like a lot of our guys, I don't think they stack up well talent-wise with other teams in the league. That's on TT. Especially when you look at the so-called "playmaker" positions, we are going to have to hope that a bunch of very young guys, inlcuding rooks like Jackson, play lights out.

According to Favre's comments last year at around this time, he might disagree with you.

How do you measure the talent of our young guys vs. other teams in the league? Is that even possible? Perhaps our guys have as much talent as players on other teams, but---because they're generally young---they just don't have the same level of accomplishment in the league.

I think that offseason ratings by railbirds in the sports media (or on message boards like ours) tend to focus more on accomplishments than on talent itself. That's fair when rating past performance. It's much less accurate, IMO, when looking to the future.

Guys who have been around long enough to become "accomplished" in the league are also guys who are old enough to be either peaked out or on the decline. Looking forward, do you want to pay premium prices for guys who are probably gonna stay the same or get worse on your team, or do you want guys who need a chance and are young enough to have a lot of upside?

Of course, I don't know that this is the reality of what our young players will do. Perhaps they are lacking accomplishment, and---if given a chance---they will still manage to accomplish nothing.

But it's certainly another way to look at things, and something tells me it's closer to the way TT looks at things. He didn't sign all these young guys after open tryouts in a McDonald's parking lot. They're football players too, even if they aren't household names.

And to address Bretsky's question of how we can expect our young guys to improve more than young guys on other teams ... I don't think that is the expectation at all.

The expectation is that this team has more young guys in key roles than most other teams do (maybe even the youngest roster in the league?), so even if all the young guys in the entire league improve at the same rate, that still means our generally younger roster improves more than another team's roster where more of the players are older and are peaked out or even on the decline.

[Bretsky]

And to address Bretsky's question of how we can expect our young guys to improve more than young guys on other teams ... I don't think that is the expectation at all.

The expectation is that this team has more young guys in key roles than most other teams do (maybe even the youngest roster in the league?), so even if all the young guys in the entire league improve at the same rate, that still means our generally younger roster improves more than another team's roster where more of the players are older and are peaked out or even on the decline.


Honestly that's a very valid explanation, and I've asked the same question many times in here. It may or may not turn out to be true, but kudos to you for explaining it. We are certainly younger than most teams so the hope would be that they would improve and improve now faster than the rest seeing we did not use free agency as a tool like some of our competitors did.

[4and12to12and4]

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5. Brett Favre : I like Favre, I admire Favre, and I think his durability record is one of the most remarkable in sports. That being said, I think way too much attention is placed on him - often at the expense of the team. The whole 'we have to win for Brett' clamor is in the long run detrimental to the overall wellbeing of the Packers. If #4 is a member of a sound Packers team - great. If he sets all the records in the world with a patched-together team that never really goes anywhere, I'm not at all interested.

Excellent post. This is the only thing I somewhat disagree with. Obviously I don't wan't to watch a patched-together team either, but NOTHING would "disinterest" me in him breaking all of Marino's records. If that's all we had to hang our hat on this year, we'd still be better off than 3/4's of NFL teams out there. Favre overtaking these records, to me, is of much importance. I personally think he is the greatest QB of all time when you consider every aspect of a QB's game, and I want him to retire with those records. Who knows if we'll ever have another QB even close to his greatness again. So, for the sake of Favre, even if we suck, I will be drunkingly cheering my ass off every time another one of Marino's records go down, at the same time wishing bad things to happen to Peyton Manning! Go Favre, you are a living legend.