Vick goes to court today....

[Harlan Huckleby]

Interesting comment for you to make, since you do not know me, you do not know my ethnicity, you do not know my religious affiliation, you do not know my education and you do not know my profession(s).

Newsflash: Jews are highly represented in professions such as law, medicine, finance.

Why? Because opportunities in large corporations were largely closed-off to them in the 20th century.

So, when I make a joke about Jews knowing a lot about law, it is hardly a slur against Jews, it is intended as a gentle joke.

But I apologize for my remarks' insensitive nature. And my bad for overestimating your sophistication. Only kidding, only kidding.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Is that why Microsoft and Best Buy have faced racketeering charges recently?
and Michael Milken of junk bonds fame?
and the cigarette industry during all their litigation regarding their research into the health effects of smoking?

A little larger and more sophisticated than Vick's operation, wouldn't you say?

Vicks business, his kennel, seems to have based on breeding dogs for dog fighting, which involved gambling (quite high stakes by some reports)

If this is big time racketeering then CHARGE THEM WITH RACKETEERING.

I think they are a group of idiot thugs. I think Vick bizarrely risked his tens of millions of dollars on an operation earning hundreds of thousands of dollars for his buddies. Just my perception.

[Patler]

Interesting comment for you to make, since you do not know me, you do not know my ethnicity, you do not know my religious affiliation, you do not know my education and you do not know my profession(s).

Newsflash: Jews are highly represented in professions such as law, medicine, finance.

Why? Because opportunities in large corporations were largely closed-off to them in the 20th century.

So, when I make a joke about Jews knowing a lot about law, it is hardly a slur against Jews, it is intended as a gentle joke.

But I apologize for my remarks' insensitive nature. And my bad for overestimating your sophistication. Only kidding, only kidding.

and what, pray tell, makes you think that I do not know all of those facts....or have not lived a good part of them????

My reply had absolutely nothing to do with the crassness of your "joke". I never questioned the implications it had toward Jews. I only questioned why you assumed that I was not as knowledgeable as they, or as experienced as they, or in fact was not a Jew, or was not a lawyer, or was not a newspaper executive, etc., etc., etc.

Perhaps I should apologize for expecting that you could recognize the difference?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ah hah! I KNEW you were a Jew! Damn, I thought this club was restricted. Well, considering the club president, I should have been prepared for the worst.

[Patler]

Is that why Microsoft and Best Buy have faced racketeering charges recently?
and Michael Milken of junk bonds fame?
and the cigarette industry during all their litigation regarding their research into the health effects of smoking?

A little larger and more sophisticated than Vick's operation, wouldn't you say?

Vicks business, his kennel, seems to have based on breeding dogs for dog fighting, which involved gambling (quite high stakes by some reports)

If this is big time racketeering then CHARGE THEM WITH RACKETEERING.

I think they are a group of idiot thugs. I think Vick bizarrely risked his tens of millions of dollars on an operation earning hundreds of thousands of dollars for his buddies. Just my perception.

By a Federal report of about 1000 racketeering charges, the typical size of the business in a "continuing criminal enterprise" racketeering charge is between $1 million and $2 million. 21% were based on gambling, second to drugs at just 23%.

I suspect Vick's kennel fit in quite nicely with the norm.

[Patler]

Ah hah! I KNEW you were a Jew! Damn, I thought this club was restricted. Well, considering the club president, I should have been prepared for the worst.

...and you know that how?

[Harlan Huckleby]

God Patler, you've got a literal mind. I don't know or care if you are Jewish. It's a joke, see, I'm taking your vague inferences and jumping to a conclusion for comic effect.

[Harlan Huckleby]

By a Federal report of about 1000 racketeering charges, the typical size of the business in a "continuing criminal enterprise" racketeering charge is between $1 million and $2 million. 21% were based on gambling, second to drugs at just 23%.

I suspect Vick's kennel fit in quite nicely with the norm.

Maybe so. Then charge them and make it stick and court.

[Partial]

I didn't read whats being argued but lets face it; he's guilty as sin.

He wouldn't have taken the plea bargin if there was any chance he was going to win. People will 100 million in the bank just don't do that.

[MadtownPacker]

But I apologize for my remarks' insensitive nature. And my bad for overestimating your sophistication. Only kidding, only kidding.

Bastard!! When the hell have you ever apologized for "dogging" on me?? Good thing Patler checked your ass before I had to.

As for vick, you need to shut the hell up cuz we all know that you are only "siding" with vick since he is the lil guy getting crushed by the big bad system. You dont care about any injustice. You just want to be different and that is cool. You are rebellious,. I like that. I hope we can hang out one day and have fun like that. I doubt it will ever happen though.

But please save the BS. You probably cried when you heard the stories of how those doggies where getting their lights put out. You know that shit wasn't cool and vick will get what he deserves. It wont be too much time but he is ruined. He had it all and he blew it. Lost it all, like a straight up pendejo. That itself is almost more of a crime then the criminal charges.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You dont care about any injustice.

this part is not true. Probably Vick is going to get what he deserves, that's good.

But his real crime was the dogfighting. And there should have been a trial. Sometimes "justice" means that bad guys get trials, and sometimes they get set free.

[Rastak]

You dont care about any injustice.

this part is not true. Probably Vick is going to get what he deserves, that's good.

But his real crime was the dogfighting. And there should have been a trial. Sometimes "justice" means that bad guys get trials, and sometimes they get set free.

Why should there be a trial when a guy pleads guilty? That doesn't make an ounce of sense!

[Patler]

God Patler, you've got a literal mind. I don't know or care if you are Jewish. It's a joke, see, I'm taking your vague inferences and jumping to a conclusion for comic effect.

Who's being literal?

You are so easily tweaked!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Why should there be a trial when a guy pleads guilty? That doesn't make an ounce of sense!

the process of getting the guilty plea was flawed. arguably - that is what the argument was about.

[Patler]

By a Federal report of about 1000 racketeering charges, the typical size of the business in a "continuing criminal enterprise" racketeering charge is between $1 million and $2 million. 21% were based on gambling, second to drugs at just 23%.

I suspect Vick's kennel fit in quite nicely with the norm.

Maybe so. Then charge them and make it stick and court.

That's probably what the second grand jury scheduled for this week was to consider. It appears that Vick is the one who doesn't want that to happen, so he has caved in without a fight, or even the second set of charges being filed.