"HARRELL OFF TO SLUGGISH START "

[Merlin]

I don't know how anyone cannot be concerned about it. These are supposed to be the world's best athletes. The coaching staff say he has a great work ethic which so far has proven to be all show on Harrell's part. Apparently he doesn't think he needed to work harder to prove himself after being selected in the first round with a questionable college career. I am not saying that's what he thinks. What I am saying is that by all signs, he blew off his preparedness. A torn biceps doesn't mean you can't condition the rest of your body. He should not be winded, in fact he should be eager and ready to go from day one.

I don't see how someone who has never played in the NFL, who has a long injury history in college and is coming off of a serious injury hasn't done everything they can to be game ready day one. He is saying all the right things but it doesn't appear he is doing them. Maybe his injury history is due to a poor work ethic with a lot of BS thrown in by Harrell. It's one thing to bamboozle a college coach, it's entirely another to try and get away with it in the NFL. I hope I am really wrong about this guy because I think he has a lot of potential.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I really hope we don’t regret not taking Nelson in a couple years.

[Partial]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Yeah, there is no way he is at 7%. 7% is bloody ripped and very hard to maintain. Most body builders maintain about 8% and cut down prior to a competition. None the less, you need to maintain a very rigid diet.

I think the numbers are always skewed. Driver is about 7-8% and they say he is at 3%.

[Carolina_Packer]

or Greg Olsen...although 16 would have been a reach for Olsen (I understand), however with as much red zone concern as we had, we needed someone who could create a matchup problem deep in enemy territory.

I think Harrell will be fine. With sites like this, with 24/7 coverage and with the fans high level of interest in all things Green Bay Packers, it can make it a bit of a microscope. Can you imagine about 40 years ago when Vince was running the show, finding out that some rookie was getting winded in practice? It's such a totally different time for the finances, media and for fan interest.

[MadScientist]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Well this guy might have been close.


Of course he was also about 7% of a player.

[wist43]

Terrible memories of that draft...

The Friday b/4 that draft my girlfriend dumped me for a vacuum cleaner salesman... so I went out and tied one on, and of course, woke up in the drunk tank with a DUI to my credit.

To add insult to injury, there were 4 HOF'ers in that draft... and the Packers managed to side step all of 'em and draft the one bust.

I can look back and laugh at it all now...

[Partial]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Well this guy might have been close.


Of course he was also about 7% of a player.

13-14%. Very muscular but not at all defined because he has a lot of fat over it. It could also be water bloat.

[Partial]

I don't know how anyone cannot be concerned about it. These are supposed to be the world's best athletes. The coaching staff say he has a great work ethic which so far has proven to be all show on Harrell's part. Apparently he doesn't think he needed to work harder to prove himself after being selected in the first round with a questionable college career. I am not saying that's what he thinks. What I am saying is that by all signs, he blew off his preparedness. A torn biceps doesn't mean you can't condition the rest of your body. He should not be winded, in fact he should be eager and ready to go from day one.

I don't see how someone who has never played in the NFL, who has a long injury history in college and is coming off of a serious injury hasn't done everything they can to be game ready day one. He is saying all the right things but it doesn't appear he is doing them. Maybe his injury history is due to a poor work ethic with a lot of BS thrown in by Harrell. It's one thing to bamboozle a college coach, it's entirely another to try and get away with it in the NFL. I hope I am really wrong about this guy because I think he has a lot of potential.

When you can't run you can't run.. Simple as that. Most people move their arms quite a bit when they run. They were holding him out of impact exercises such as that.

a 300 pounder being 15 lbs overweight is about the same as a 200 pounder being 10 pounds overweight. Happens all the time. He'll be an animal come regular season time. He was probably at 330 when he started and lost a bit of water weight.

[woodbuck27]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Yea maybe Donald Driver is that lean. We all wish we could have 7% body fat. That's extremely healthy.

[4and12to12and4]

As has been said here a million times, there is no way he is at 7%. Mike Tyson had 5% body fat. Those two bodies aren't even close to comparable. BTW, it doesn't matter, because Mike Tyson would've gotten thrown around like a ragdoll by NFL offensive linemen. Keep some fat, Harrell, you'll need it.

[Carolina_Packer]

Prime of their careers Brett Favre and Barry Sanders on Offense, and our mid-90's defense...it wouldn't have even been fair. Ah the fool's gold of steroids.

I too think Harrell will be fine. I agree about football shape. You can do non-contact conditioning, but until you are in contact/collision shape, you're probably going to suck some wind. Not surprising. I give him some slack, but it sure would be nice to have some production from him this year.

[BallHawk]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Yea maybe Donald Driver is that lean. We all wish we could have 7% body fat. That's extremely healthy.

Isn't Driver like 3-4% body fat?

[MJZiggy]

Why, yes. Yes he is. Hmmm...what were we talking about again?

[woodbuck27]

7%? I highly doubt that. If he's 7% at his size I would be amazed. You'd walk around shirtless all the time....LOL.

Has a OL or DL ever been 7%?

Yea maybe Donald Driver is that lean. We all wish we could have 7% body fat. That's extremely healthy.

Isn't Driver like 3-4% body fat?

He's lean.

Saw a pic of DD in TC last night and he looks more muscled (bigger) so far this season.

Here's lean ONLY:

[Fritz]

Re: "HARRELL OFF TO SLUGGISH START "

Notes: Harrell off to sluggish start
"That's the best I've hit the ball in camp, I'd say," Rayner said. "I'm going in every day focusing on Dave Rayner and how I kick. He's a good kicker. You don't get drafted unless you're a good kicker."

Cut Rayner now!

I don't care if he is the 2nd coming of jan Stenarud. Referring to yourself in the 3rd person is ample reason to cut someone.

I am now officially rooting for Crosby.

Cheeser, Fritz loves guys who refer to themselves in the third person. It's hilarious. Unfortunately, Dave slipped - after referring to himself as Dave Rayner, he immediately followed it with "and how I kick." That young man needs a lesson on using the third person pronoun if he's going to go for the third-person reference.

Fritz will switch his allegiance to Crosby if Crosby can prove he can correctly refer to himself in the third person. In the meantime, Fritz hopes Dave practices the third person a little more.