Might the Colts call TT about a trade?

[Zool]

Re: Sarcasm

Remind me in the future to insert "sarcasm" next to comments that are meant that way. My Harrell or Williams for Wayne was meant with every ounce of sarcasm in my being. Teddy would'nt trade his "I'm smarter than the rest of you pick" for anything on this earth.

Geez, lighten up.................

No kidding. How this this thread grow such stout legs?

A TE with some potential would be a nice trade though.

[run pMc]

Sarcasm is easily missed in cyberspace.

I LMAO when I saw the trade Williams for Wayne comment. If Wayne is a top 10 WR, wouldn't it stand to reason we'd have to trade a top 10 DT to land him? Williams has potential, but he's not top 10, at least not yet. Trading Williams (or Jolly, or anybody) is certainly a possibility, but this is all based on a RUMOR. I think TT would go looking for a RB, TE, or picks before taking another WR. As far as what Williams is worth, a 2nd rounder would be a steal...Indy would have to redo his contract to make it worthwhile. I'm actually a big Corey Williams fan (one of Sherman's better late round picks), but I'm not convinced he's consistently shown enough to be called a superstar or worth a 2nd round pick. Consider what Moss went to NE for.

[The Shadow]

Re: Sarcasm

Remind me in the future to insert "sarcasm" next to comments that are meant that way. My Harrell or Williams for Wayne was meant with every ounce of sarcasm in my being. Teddy would'nt trade his "I'm smarter than the rest of you pick" for anything on this earth.

Geez, lighten up.................

Great news!
Now I see that those ridiculous demands for Thompson to draft V. Davis instead of A.J. Hawk were just more examples of 'sarcasm'.

[Bretsky]

Re: Sarcasm

Remind me in the future to insert "sarcasm" next to comments that are meant that way. My Harrell or Williams for Wayne was meant with every ounce of sarcasm in my being. Teddy would'nt trade his "I'm smarter than the rest of you pick" for anything on this earth.

Geez, lighten up.................

Great news!
Now I see that those ridiculous demands for Thompson to draft V. Davis instead of A.J. Hawk were just more examples of 'sarcasm'.

If you go back and read the board from a year ago the strong majority of posters agreed AJ Hawk was the right pick; only a few still around who I remember wanting Davis.

[RashanGary]

I made comments about Davis being worth the pick. I never saddled up with any one guy. I said all of those guys at the top were good and it was impossible for me to split hairs. Hawk was the right pick though.

[woodbuck27]

I'm with JH on this one.

I don't want TT to trade a good DT ( C. Williams ) that we have been developing for a 3rd or 4th round pick.

The deal has to be sweeter than that. As in some player trade that works for both sides, and it most certainly works for us.

The balls of the better NFL teams that seem to think the bottom feeders in the NFL are some sort of farm system. They want something for little in return. Shanahan and the Bronco's really come to mind.

[Packnut]

Re: Sarcasm

Remind me in the future to insert "sarcasm" next to comments that are meant that way. My Harrell or Williams for Wayne was meant with every ounce of sarcasm in my being. Teddy would'nt trade his "I'm smarter than the rest of you pick" for anything on this earth.

Geez, lighten up.................

Great news!
Now I see that those ridiculous demands for Thompson to draft V. Davis instead of A.J. Hawk were just more examples of 'sarcasm'.

Good LB's are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Good TE's are rare. Almost every team has a "Hawk". Very few teams have a TE that can stretch the field. Live and learn. Watch the numbers Davis put's up this season......

[the_idle_threat]

Re: Sarcasm

Good LB's are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Good TE's are rare. Almost every team has a "Hawk".

You underestimate Hawk. He wasn't drafted to be "good." He was drafted at #5 because he's supposed to be one of the top linebackers in the game---much better than what "almost every team" has. He didn't play at that level (yet) in his rookie season, but then again, neither did Vernon Davis (Davis' numbers were very Bubba-Franks-like. See http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/409254).

So Davis can be expected to take a huge step (from disappointing to outstanding) but Hawk can't be expected to take a smaller step (from very good to outstanding)?

Very few teams have a TE that can stretch the field. Live and learn. Watch the numbers Davis put's up this season......

Yawn!
The league is strewn with tight ends that have the speed to stretch the field, but still fail to be game-changers. The Packers have two in training camp (Zac Alcorn and Donald Lee) and let one go in the offseason (David Martin).

Davis has never proven that he's anything more than a combine star and 2nd or 3rd-tier tight end. He wasn't even 1/10th the game-changer Hawk was in college. It was a no-brainer to pick Hawk.

[RashanGary]

Holy crap Packnut. I liked Davis too, but you can't tell me that a TE is more important than a LB.


Most important = QB

2nd most important = all defensive positions (except safety), Oline and running back

Last = TE, FB, Safties, WR's

[Rastak]

Actually a TE that can stretch the field a bit is pretty important in the WCO. Under some offensive systems, I'd agree that it's not quite as important.

[Partial]

I made comments about Davis being worth the pick. I never saddled up with any one guy. I said all of those guys at the top were good and it was impossible for me to split hairs. Hawk was the right pick though.

You were #1 on the Vernon Davis band-wagon.

[retailguy]

Actually a TE that can stretch the field a bit is pretty important in the WCO. Under some offensive systems, I'd agree that it's not quite as important.

The WCO is over rated. Now that Wash has died, you'll see that all these teams will move away from it. TE's are not important. That's why we didn't sign one in free agency. We'll just "groom one from within". If we take a 7th rounder every year (since we'll always have 15 7th round picks this will not be a problem), eventually we'll get a Donald Driver type to pan out. Just watch and learn.

[RashanGary]

You were #1 on the Vernon Davis band-wagon.

I was bounced around from Hawk to Davis but ultimately I liked Davis. I was wrong.

[Packgator]

I think Williams stands a good chance to have a breakout season this year. He's one of the young players on this team that I am most excited about.

Williams may be on his way to becoming a good and steady NFL DT. If he has another good season the problem will be re-signing him. How much money are the Packers willing to spend on the interior D-line? The Packers probably met with Williams this summer about an extention and whatever was offered (if there was an offer) was turned down.

[Scott Campbell]

Actually a TE that can stretch the field a bit is pretty important in the WCO. Under some offensive systems, I'd agree that it's not quite as important.

The WCO is over rated. Now that Wash has died, you'll see that all these teams will move away from it. TE's are not important. That's why we didn't sign one in free agency. We'll just "groom one from within". If we take a 7th rounder every year (since we'll always have 15 7th round picks this will not be a problem), eventually we'll get a Donald Driver type to pan out. Just watch and learn.

(RG) - thanks again for your infinite words of wisdom. Piece of advice - You really need a new line. Your tired sarcasm is no longer working... 2000 post is about enough of the same old same old. You might actually have to (explain why you aren't a hypocrite).

More evidence of hypocracy.