Who's the starter at DT?

[RashanGary]

Cole is better than Harrell right now. Harrell should sit. He needs to work his ass off now though. If he's not going to be playing he should be working out hard, getting stronger and better conditioned.

Eventually you want him to play though. There will be injuries and he'll make it on the field.

[the_idle_threat]

No KGB option?

We are talking about DT, not DE.

So you don't think KGB could hold up playing inside?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ummm, if cpk1994 missed the sarcasm the first time, I don't think he gonna get it the second round.

stop causing trouble, idle. You a bad man, very bad man.

15 yards - taunting

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No KGB option?

We are talking about DT, not DE.

That's my bad attempt at humor. I'm socially awkward.

[Bretsky]

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

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TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

Is that confirmed? I don't recall him ever saying that.

[Bretsky]

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

Is that confirmed? I don't recall him ever saying that.

It was confirmed that we turned down the deal; beyond that nothing was confirmed. But TT did say he was hesitant to trade down because he didn't want to lose a player of Harrell's caliber, or something like that. He did mention Harrell specifically. That was in response to questioning about the Browns proposed opportunity. That's about the most TT will ever give a reporter.

[Packnut]

Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

[falco]

Re: Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

Just because you label it a "smarter than thou" pick doesn't make it one. There were supposedly several other teams ready to take Harrell in the late teens.

For the record, I'm disappointed by him as well. But how many other players in middle of the first round are making huge impacts right now? The expectations aren't the same as a top 5 pick.

[Bretsky]

Re: Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

Just because you label it a "smarter than thou" pick doesn't make it one. There were supposedly several other teams ready to take Harrell in the late teens.

For the record, I'm disappointed by him as well. But how many other players in middle of the first round are making huge impacts right now? The expectations aren't the same as a top 5 pick.

I think Denver was the only one I read of who admitted to have some level of interest in Harrell. That does not mean others were not intererested.

They stated they had targeted three DL, one of which they were committed to drafting. Sounded like it was Carraeker, Moss, and Harrell.

When Harrell went off the board, they stated they need to trade up; that took stones.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Harrell

.......... but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick........

Not sure, but didn't you also say this about Jones in the 3rd round?

[Merlin]

The Jones pick was a reach but hey so was Driver, Tauscher & Clifton. When you draft a million guys, someone has to be worth a damn (at least you would think so). 3T isn't going to sweat the Harrell pick.

As far as rushing packages, they are "supposed" to move Jenkins to tackle and KGB to end. At least that's the last I had heard. I am sure you will see that package against the Eagles. Although I don't think KGB will be used as often as he should.

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Re: Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

Since no other team picked where the packers picked, and no team after the packers had a shot at Harrell, its impossible and incorrect to make a statement like that.

You or I have no idea what any other teams thought. How do we know picks 1-(packers pick) didn't have Harrell rated at the Packers pick or higher?

Just because he wasn't the popular pick on NFLDraftCountdown doesn't mean he isn't a good pick or the right pick.

My guess is when all is said and done your homeboy tightend down in Chicago will have produced just as little as Harrell this first year. The guy may start by default and catch a few balls but he will be a drive killer with his bad game hands, poor route running, and lack of concentration.

[Bretsky]

Re: Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

Since no other team picked where the packers picked, and no team after the packers had a shot at Harrell, its impossible and incorrect to make a statement like that.

You or I have no idea what any other teams thought. How do we know picks 1-(packers pick) didn't have Harrell rated at the Packers pick or higher?

Just because he wasn't the popular pick on NFLDraftCountdown doesn't mean he isn't a good pick or the right pick.

My guess is when all is said and done your homeboy tightend down in Chicago will have produced just as little as Harrell this first year. The guy may start by default and catch a few balls but he will be a drive killer with his bad game hands, poor route running, and lack of concentration.

I watched Olson at the rookie all star competition. He had no pads on, but his hands were VERY good. His downfall per scouts is that he can't block a lick.

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Re: Harrell

I find it funny how they keep going out of thier way to say how they aren't disappointed in Harrell. Reading between the lines, tells me they are very disappointed!

TT expected Harrell to come in and contribute right away in the rotation

TT turned down a 1st round pick next year from one of the worst teams in the NFL because he was enamored with Justin Harrell

There is still time, but if Harrell is inactive on gameday or fails to contribute this year much the GB brass will be undoubtedly disappointed

There is a reason teams don't draft players that high in the draft when they did'nt play the majority of their senior year. It's also a reason you don't gamble when you have other positions of need, but when you have a massive ego and you make an "I'm smarter than any of you" pick, it had better pay off and so far it has'nt.

Since no other team picked where the packers picked, and no team after the packers had a shot at Harrell, its impossible and incorrect to make a statement like that.

You or I have no idea what any other teams thought. How do we know picks 1-(packers pick) didn't have Harrell rated at the Packers pick or higher?

Just because he wasn't the popular pick on NFLDraftCountdown doesn't mean he isn't a good pick or the right pick.

My guess is when all is said and done your homeboy tightend down in Chicago will have produced just as little as Harrell this first year. The guy may start by default and catch a few balls but he will be a drive killer with his bad game hands, poor route running, and lack of concentration.

I watched Olson at the rookie all star competition. He had no pads on, but his hands were VERY good. His downfall per scouts is that he can't block a lick.

I have heard you state that multiple times.

In-game hands and practice hands are two different things. When bullets are flying and he is worrying about getting drilled, he will drop passes. At least he did a LOT in college.

First of all, he has never played a full season. He has only played in 80% of the games the past three years.

He has had very little production. He has only caught 6 TDs in his career, as well as 87 passes.

He is not a good route runner, he doesn't break tackles, and he is not tough. He cannot block well, either. He is essentially a big-bodied receiver.