Interesting Comments From Mort

[Bossman641]

Are you hitting the crackpipe again? Travis Henry and Bubba2.0/injury waiting to happen and we're talking superbowl? Balogna!

We're a boarderline six seed. If a lot of things go right, we might have a chance at getting back into the playoffs in a weak conference.

We're a long way away. I think by the end of the year we'll be as good as some of the playoff teams. We're not even close, now.

As for the criticism of TT from the national media being correct but the TT "bashers" on here being wrong, I think you're all unjustified in your shinanigans.

If we had Green and Grant back and went into the season with only the whole at TE, I still don't think we would be anywhere near a superbowl. Maybe I would consider us a lock to go 9-7 instead of likely to go 9-7.

Who is Grant; maybe I'm developing amnesia in my old age ?

Deon grant I'm guessing.

[Bretsky]

Funny how Packnut has positioned himself to be "right", no matter what. Before, he was crying about how bad we stink. Why isn't Thompson doing anything? Now, he's crying about how we might be pretty good, but Thompson didn't do anything to put us over the top.

If we suck, he can say he was right that Thompson is horrible.

If we are good but don't win a championship, he can say he was right and Thompson should have done more to put us over the top.

Pretty convenient.

That is what is tough; I don't know how I can win or lose with my view. I think we're OK; TT is doing an OK job. He's a good drafter.

But I want it faster. So I can't really win or lose.

I've said mutiple times last year was the year to throw the loot at the free agents as there was a lot of talent out there. We came back with Pickett and an extrememly frontloaded deal for Woodsen designed to use up our short term cap space and miximize future flexibility.

Would I have did more then Snapper did this year in Free agency ? Heck yes, but at the same time that's because I'm a now guy and TT is more of a later guy.

I don't care for TT's lack of urgency; so until we wins it all I may never care for him.

But if TT wins a Super Bowl he'll get my full faith and I will be wrong in how he's developing this team his way.

I will agree with one thing; the National Press definitely agrees that TT should have did more on offense. From Steve Young to Troy Aikman to Mort to Phil Simms. They would all be considered haters in here.

But they are also win now minds. Time will tell.

[Bretsky]

I just want to say this:

What if they did match Green's salary? Add on 7-8 million to our salary cap. What if they signed another legit free agent? Packnut wanted Deon Grant, so add on another 5 million. That's 13 milion right there added to the Packers payroll annually.

They are 13 million under the cap right now.

What happens if they want to extend Corey Williams or upgrade a player's contract that earns it? They have no flexibility then. They could potentially have Aaron Kampman and if he keeps playing how he has been Cullen Jenkins holding out because they're underpaid.

What does TT do then? Let them walk?!?!

Next year's cap will go up Partial; would still have plenty of room to sign Williams.

[Him8123]

I`m not a TT defender or basher, he`s done some things good and hasn`t done alot of things he probably should. Although this years FA was weak, filled with bad personality trouble makers to almost over the hill players who weren`t worth the money. that being said I`m sure there was a reliable RB or TE out there that he could have gotten to be a security blanket, e.g. rouben droughns, dominick rhodes, or someone else, going off the top of my head of decent FA`s.

[vince]

Funny how Packnut has positioned himself to be "right", no matter what. Before, he was crying about how bad we stink. Why isn't Thompson doing anything? Now, he's crying about how we might be pretty good, but Thompson didn't do anything to put us over the top.

If we suck, he can say he was right that Thompson is horrible.

If we are good but don't win a championship, he can say he was right and Thompson should have done more to put us over the top.

Pretty convenient.

Absolutely 100% correct (as usual) Harv.


Nut, it’s nice to see that you acknowledge (in your own delightful way) how Ted is improving the quality of the team into a contender!

While your tone hasn’t changed from your offseason posturing (thankfully – it’s quite comical) your position certainly has. After reading your latest rant, I couldn’t help but laugh. Man, you are an angry bastard. That’s no way to go through life, nut.

Just because I so enjoyed your newest spin, I went back to see some of your posts over the second half of this offseason, and I gotta say, it made my night. Absolutely hilarious – in a mean old bastard kind of way.

Here are some of the gems - directly from the keyboard of the nut himself…

“That's called knowing football and knowing damn well not one of the TE's on this roster is gonna produce like a WC offense needs.”

“If that makes me anti-TT than so be it. All I know is that come Nov., there's gonna be some crow served up with that turkey.”

“…it's difficult to reason with someone who has little understanding of the game. Do you have any idea how just plain dumb that is?”

“For the life of me, I just can't fathom how Teddy's plan up to date sparks confidence in even his most blind followers.”

“This slow methodical turtle like approach will NEVER NEVER work in today's NFL.”

“I'm fine with the kool-aid drinking crap but anyone who thinks this group of TE's is going to give us the production you need in a WC offense is pretty much brain dead.”

“Yet his backers will tell you Alcorn will come out of no where or Bubba will learn how to catch again. Nothing but fairy tale BS for people who have no grasp of reality.”

“Man, I can't wait to see your answer when we get ZERO production from our TE's. Better start thinging about what excuses your going to use.”

“Your just like a woman, you only understand what fits your opinion.”

“Now you wanna talk about spineless? Look in the mirror. Teddy does no wrong in your eyes. You except every move he makes without question. Loyalty doesn’t mean brainless.”

“THIS season will tell us all we need to know about Teddy and the team's immediate future. I'm more than happy to stake my credibility on this season. … If this team improves on last season's record and makes the play-offs, than I will admit to being wrong about Thompson and will never utter a single negative word about him. If this team doesn’t improve on 8-8 and have a play-off spot, you grow up and join the real world!”

“If you guys choose to live in fantasy land, I suggest you pick a fantasy that has hot naked woman who cater to your every desire. That would seem one helluva lot more plausible then this one you've built with Thompson.........”

“Based on what we have right now and what we've seen, as a whole our receiving corps is below avg.”

“These are different times and the odds are that Teddy's stubborness and in-ability to adapt will prove very painful for us fans..........”

“The amount of mistakes are starting to add up and while a few believe there's nothing wrong with him making mistakes, it's hurting our team. Thompson's job is to do what-ever it takes to put the best team out there. He has without a doubt failed.”

“3 years is enough time to fix the problems that have jumped out. I wanna see a 15-20% improvment in ppg, RZ efficency and rushing offense. If we do not have those than Teddy has failed plain and simple. If we do improve in those 3 areas than I'll be first in line pushing for a 5 year Thompson contract extension.”

“Damn, I must have missed that memo about you becoming God. I guess you do know everything, (well at least in your own mind).”

“I suggest you ignore me as I have ignored you for the most part for quite a while now. Life is short, and no sense in wasting anymore time. Have a nice life and I hope you get everything that you deserve.........”

You're one of a kind nut. I'd tell you to keep it up, but somehow, I know you will...

[Freak Out]

TT should have built a SB contender by this time next year if Favre sticks around...if #4 retires then add one for Rogers to get comfy. If we are not contenders at that time then TT has failed in his duties and his performance will need to be reviewed by the board. His contract is how long?

[Spaulding]

The best thing about Thompson is that he has the team getting consistantly better and their is no financial wall that we are nearing. We are getting better only to get better only to find ourselves in position to get better. That's acctually hard to do but is exactly what I have expected Thompson to do all along.

If anyone has anything to rub in over the next few months, it's us who have supported Thompson and saw the big picutre who should be rubbing the panic crowd's nose in their idiocy.

I think I need another case after reading that JK, I like your optimism although I wonder if the kool aid is spiked a bit after a sentence like that.

[Bossman641]

The best thing about Thompson is that he has the team getting consistantly better and their is no financial wall that we are nearing. We are getting better only to get better only to find ourselves in position to get better. That's acctually hard to do but is exactly what I have expected Thompson to do all along.

If anyone has anything to rub in over the next few months, it's us who have supported Thompson and saw the big picutre who should be rubbing the panic crowd's nose in their idiocy.

I think I need another case after reading that JK, I like your optimism although I wonder if the kool aid is spiked a bit after a sentence like that.

LOL, I hope there's not any English teachers around. I'm still trying to figure out what that means.

I'd say I'm about 65-35 in favor of TT.

The optimistic side of me sees what he is doing (continually stockpiling young talent, encouraging competition, keeping us in very good position for FA's) and sees that if this young talent ever emerges we will have a long legitimate SB window.

The pessimistic side of me believes that if certain things happen (young players fail to develop, TT shies away from spending cash, our current playmakers age and others fail to replace them), not only will we be bad but we will also have been bad for a very long time.

Overall, I'm fine with taking the slower approach but I really wish TT had addressed the TE and RB situations this offseason.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I just want to say this:

What if they did match Green's salary? Add on 7-8 million to our salary cap. What if they signed another legit free agent? Packnut wanted Deon Grant, so add on another 5 million. That's 13 milion right there added to the Packers payroll annually.

They are 13 million under the cap right now.

What happens if they want to extend Corey Williams or upgrade a player's contract that earns it? They have no flexibility then. They could potentially have Aaron Kampman and if he keeps playing how he has been Cullen Jenkins holding out because they're underpaid.

What does TT do then? Let them walk?!?!

How do you even know TT is going to sign Williams? Jolly is coming along nicely, Pickett still has three years on our team, and we just spent a lst round pick on a DT. Not much room for Williams to get a big deal. And as I understand 2009 we tons of free agents, so are we supposed to wait until after then to go out and get free agents and be aggressive? By then we will have to develop even more players becasue Driver, Favre and others will be gone. As I said TT knows how to get the talented players in the draft, but I question if he will make a move and take a shot while we have the money.

[Partial]

Are you hitting the crackpipe again? Travis Henry and Bubba2.0/injury waiting to happen and we're talking superbowl? Balogna!

We're a boarderline six seed. If a lot of things go right, we might have a chance at getting back into the playoffs in a weak conference.

We're a long way away. I think by the end of the year we'll be as good as some of the playoff teams. We're not even close, now.

As for the criticism of TT from the national media being correct but the TT "bashers" on here being wrong, I think you're all unjustified in your shinanigans.

If we had Green and Grant back and went into the season with only the whole at TE, I still don't think we would be anywhere near a superbowl. Maybe I would consider us a lock to go 9-7 instead of likely to go 9-7.

Who is Grant; maybe I'm developing amnesia in my old age ?

Deon Grant, safety from Jacksonville that is now a Seahawk

[The Shadow]

Funny how Packnut has positioned himself to be "right", no matter what. Before, he was crying about how bad we stink. Why isn't Thompson doing anything? Now, he's crying about how we might be pretty good, but Thompson didn't do anything to put us over the top.

If we suck, he can say he was right that Thompson is horrible.

If we are good but don't win a championship, he can say he was right and Thompson should have done more to put us over the top.

Pretty convenient.

Absolutely 100% correct (as usual) Harv.


Nut, it’s nice to see that you acknowledge (in your own delightful way) how Ted is improving the quality of the team into a contender!

While your tone hasn’t changed from your offseason posturing (thankfully – it’s quite comical) your position certainly has. After reading your latest rant, I couldn’t help but laugh. Man, you are an angry bastard. That’s no way to go through life, nut.

Just because I so enjoyed your newest spin, I went back to see some of your posts over the second half of this offseason, and I gotta say, it made my night. Absolutely hilarious – in a mean old bastard kind of way.

Here are some of the gems - directly from the keyboard of the nut himself…

“That's called knowing football and knowing damn well not one of the TE's on this roster is gonna produce like a WC offense needs.”

“If that makes me anti-TT than so be it. All I know is that come Nov., there's gonna be some crow served up with that turkey.”

“…it's difficult to reason with someone who has little understanding of the game. Do you have any idea how just plain dumb that is?”

“For the life of me, I just can't fathom how Teddy's plan up to date sparks confidence in even his most blind followers.”

“This slow methodical turtle like approach will NEVER NEVER work in today's NFL.”

“I'm fine with the kool-aid drinking crap but anyone who thinks this group of TE's is going to give us the production you need in a WC offense is pretty much brain dead.”

“Yet his backers will tell you Alcorn will come out of no where or Bubba will learn how to catch again. Nothing but fairy tale BS for people who have no grasp of reality.”

“Man, I can't wait to see your answer when we get ZERO production from our TE's. Better start thinging about what excuses your going to use.”

“Your just like a woman, you only understand what fits your opinion.”

“Now you wanna talk about spineless? Look in the mirror. Teddy does no wrong in your eyes. You except every move he makes without question. Loyalty doesn’t mean brainless.”

“THIS season will tell us all we need to know about Teddy and the team's immediate future. I'm more than happy to stake my credibility on this season. … If this team improves on last season's record and makes the play-offs, than I will admit to being wrong about Thompson and will never utter a single negative word about him. If this team doesn’t improve on 8-8 and have a play-off spot, you grow up and join the real world!”

“If you guys choose to live in fantasy land, I suggest you pick a fantasy that has hot naked woman who cater to your every desire. That would seem one helluva lot more plausible then this one you've built with Thompson.........”

“Based on what we have right now and what we've seen, as a whole our receiving corps is below avg.”

“These are different times and the odds are that Teddy's stubborness and in-ability to adapt will prove very painful for us fans..........”

“The amount of mistakes are starting to add up and while a few believe there's nothing wrong with him making mistakes, it's hurting our team. Thompson's job is to do what-ever it takes to put the best team out there. He has without a doubt failed.”

“3 years is enough time to fix the problems that have jumped out. I wanna see a 15-20% improvment in ppg, RZ efficency and rushing offense. If we do not have those than Teddy has failed plain and simple. If we do improve in those 3 areas than I'll be first in line pushing for a 5 year Thompson contract extension.”

“Damn, I must have missed that memo about you becoming God. I guess you do know everything, (well at least in your own mind).”

“I suggest you ignore me as I have ignored you for the most part for quite a while now. Life is short, and no sense in wasting anymore time. Have a nice life and I hope you get everything that you deserve.........”

You're one of a kind nut. I'd tell you to keep it up, but somehow, I know you will...

Hilarious, Vince!
Absolutely nailed it.
Well done!

[Partial]

I just want to say this:

What if they did match Green's salary? Add on 7-8 million to our salary cap. What if they signed another legit free agent? Packnut wanted Deon Grant, so add on another 5 million. That's 13 milion right there added to the Packers payroll annually.

They are 13 million under the cap right now.

What happens if they want to extend Corey Williams or upgrade a player's contract that earns it? They have no flexibility then. They could potentially have Aaron Kampman and if he keeps playing how he has been Cullen Jenkins holding out because they're underpaid.

What does TT do then? Let them walk?!?!

How do you even know TT is going to sign Williams? Jolly is coming along nicely, Pickett still has three years on our team, and we just spent a lst round pick on a DT. Not much room for Williams to get a big deal. And as I understand 2009 we tons of free agents, so are we supposed to wait until after then to go out and get free agents and be aggressive? By then we will have to develop even more players becasue Driver, Favre and others will be gone. As I said TT knows how to get the talented players in the draft, but I question if he will make a move and take a shot while we have the money.

He probably won't unless its a really bad position for us and a really good free agent who wants to play in GB.

Ideally, if TT sticks with his plan of building a team through the draft and landing quality players, he won't have to look to FA too much. It's unlikely to happen that easily, but we shall see.

What is nice is TT stockpiles his picks in hoping to find the next Favre or DD. That kind of player would enver make it to free agency.

[superfan]

I'd say I'm about 65-35 in favor of TT.

The optimistic side of me sees what he is doing (continually stockpiling young talent, encouraging competition, keeping us in very good position for FA's) and sees that if this young talent ever emerges we will have a long legitimate SB window.

The pessimistic side of me believes that if certain things happen (young players fail to develop, TT shies away from spending cash, our current playmakers age and others fail to replace them), not only will we be bad but we will also have been bad for a very long time.

Overall, I'm fine with taking the slower approach but I really wish TT had addressed the TE and RB situations this offseason.

Excellent post, Bossman, this pretty much sums up my attitude about Thompson.



Although I think my percentage is down to 60/40 thanks to the lack of FA activity this offseason. I'm strongly against the big spending, win now approach as it tends to lead to big busts (Washington Redskins over the last 5 years) and big crashes (Niners in the 90s). But you have to make some moves to improve your team, and they can be done without mortgaging the future.

I think the biggest mistake was not making a stronger push for TE Randy McMichael. I don't remember exactly what St. Louis paid for him, but I think it was a relative bargain. We should have been able to get him at a fair price, and if McMichael was on this team, the offense would look a lot better.

Not signing Green makes financial success, painful as it is, and I have the same reservations about the other RBs others have mentioned. If Harrell turns out to be a bust and Brandon Jackson struggles, not pulling the trigger on Michael Turner will look like a very bad move.

[cheesner]

TT should have built a SB contender by this time next year if Favre sticks around...if #4 retires then add one for Rogers to get comfy. If we are not contenders at that time then TT has failed in his duties and his performance will need to be reviewed by the board. His contract is how long?

And that is the problem. When Brett only gives notice after the draft the first 2 years of TTs tenure, you expect him to plan to build a SB contender for him?

As far as TT bashers go, you bitched and moaned that TT didn't sign Rivera and Wahle when he got here. Well guess what. Had TT done that we would be over the cap right now and there would be no discussion about signing FAs.

Extend TT's contract now!

[cpk1994]

Funny how Packnut has positioned himself to be "right", no matter what. Before, he was crying about how bad we stink. Why isn't Thompson doing anything? Now, he's crying about how we might be pretty good, but Thompson didn't do anything to put us over the top.

If we suck, he can say he was right that Thompson is horrible.

If we are good but don't win a championship, he can say he was right and Thompson should have done more to put us over the top.

Pretty convenient.

That is what is tough; I don't know how I can win or lose with my view. I think we're OK; TT is doing an OK job. He's a good drafter.

But I want it faster. So I can't really win or lose.

I've said mutiple times last year was the year to throw the loot at the free agents as there was a lot of talent out there. We came back with Pickett and an extrememly frontloaded deal for Woodsen designed to use up our short term cap space and miximize future flexibility.

Would I have did more then Snapper did this year in Free agency ? Heck yes, but at the same time that's because I'm a now guy and TT is more of a later guy.

I don't care for TT's lack of urgency; so until we wins it all I may never care for him.

But if TT wins a Super Bowl he'll get my full faith and I will be wrong in how he's developing this team his way.

I will agree with one thing; the National Press definitely agrees that TT should have did more on offense. From Steve Young to Troy Aikman to Mort to Phil Simms. They would all be considered haters in here.

But they are also win now minds. Time will tell.

I noticed to "national Media" you cite are Phil Simms, Troy Aikman and Steve Young. With the exception of Mort, what do they have all in common? THey are all former QB's. They are only interested in seeing Favre going out a SB winner. They don't give a shit about Packers. They don't care if the Packers salary cap goes to hell after Brett leaves. All they care about is Favre. They are not TT haters, They are unapologetic Favre ass kissers. BTW, if Young had actually quit his crying long enough, he would actually have heard the argument in favor of TT's plan during the Draft show. But he didn't becuase all he was concerned with was Favre.