Ryan Grant? WTF TT?

[jramsey495]

By and large i have been happy with how TT has gone about his business. he trades down (not up) in the draft to get more picks and he doesn't go crazy for free agents just to make news (my guess is that he went after some big names this off season but people didn't want to come to green bay). he suffers with us because he has no personality and is horrible in front of a camera.

but i feel like he has this thing about finding people no one has ever heard of so everyone thinks he's the smartest guy in the world (ala ron wolf - which tt ain't). ryan grant is an undrafted free agent from 2005 who doesn't have an nfl carry in two years and had, by most accounts, an inauspicious career at notre dame when the program wasn't doing so well. and we trade a draft pick for him? why the hell don't you take a chance on someone that other people agree has some value, tt? why do you always have to find the most obscure player out there? dang, this is frustrating...

[The Shadow]

Re: Ryan Grant? WTF TT?

By and large i have been happy with how TT has gone about his business. he trades down (not up) in the draft to get more picks and he doesn't go crazy for free agents just to make news (my guess is that he went after some big names this off season but people didn't want to come to green bay). he suffers with us because he has no personality and is horrible in front of a camera.

but i feel like he has this thing about finding people no one has ever heard of so everyone thinks he's the smartest guy in the world (ala ron wolf - which tt ain't). ryan grant is an undrafted free agent from 2005 who doesn't have an nfl carry in two years and had, by most accounts, an inauspicious career at notre dame when the program wasn't doing so well. and we trade a draft pick for him? why the hell don't you take a chance on someone that other people agree has some value, tt? why do you always have to find the most obscure player out there? dang, this is frustrating...

What if the guy happens to be a good player?

[Lurker64]

I'm willing to bet that TT and the Packer's scouting department watch a lot more film than you do, particularly things like preseason games for other teams. They might have even seen the guy work in some "open to the public practices".

Do I know anything about the guy? Not really. Does that mean that he's a bad pickup? Far from it. I don't get paid to be knowledgeable about football.

[Fritz]

Can this trade put to rest the whole "TT loves his draft picks so much he'll NEVER give one up"?

[gbpackfan]

Re: Ryan Grant? WTF TT?

By and large i have been happy with how TT has gone about his business. he trades down (not up) in the draft to get more picks and he doesn't go crazy for free agents just to make news (my guess is that he went after some big names this off season but people didn't want to come to green bay). he suffers with us because he has no personality and is horrible in front of a camera.

but i feel like he has this thing about finding people no one has ever heard of so everyone thinks he's the smartest guy in the world (ala ron wolf - which tt ain't). ryan grant is an undrafted free agent from 2005 who doesn't have an nfl carry in two years and had, by most accounts, an inauspicious career at notre dame when the program wasn't doing so well. and we trade a draft pick for him? why the hell don't you take a chance on someone that other people agree has some value, tt? why do you always have to find the most obscure player out there? dang, this is frustrating...

The Giants believed he had value, he had already been informed that he had made the team before the trade. Just because YOU don't know who he is, doesn't mean GMs and coaches don't.

As for giving up a draft pick, it was most likely a late round pick and in that case, so what! There are a million ways to get an extra 6th or 7th round pick in the draft.

Listen, I have been all over TT as well but you can't come down on the guy for going out getting guys like this. He gave up very little for him so in the end if it doesnt pan out, so what.

Let me ask you this? What good is that late round pick in the 2008 NFL draft going to do for our team this year? How many TDs will it score? How many plays will it make? NONE. Ryan Grant may.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Don't speak too early. What if this guy is the next Don Woods??

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29482&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&seasonType=PRE&week=2

In the Giants 13-12 Pre Season win over The Ravens.

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG

R. Grant 7 31 0 18 . . .#39.

FILM HIGHLIGHTS FR. ABOVE LINK.

[RashanGary]

Thanks for the highlight, woodbuck

[RashanGary]

haha, he didn't have a play in that highlight.

[Fritz]

Re: Ryan Grant? WTF TT?

By and large i have been happy with how TT has gone about his business. he trades down (not up) in the draft to get more picks and he doesn't go crazy for free agents just to make news (my guess is that he went after some big names this off season but people didn't want to come to green bay). he suffers with us because he has no personality and is horrible in front of a camera.

but i feel like he has this thing about finding people no one has ever heard of so everyone thinks he's the smartest guy in the world (ala ron wolf - which tt ain't). ryan grant is an undrafted free agent from 2005 who doesn't have an nfl carry in two years and had, by most accounts, an inauspicious career at notre dame when the program wasn't doing so well. and we trade a draft pick for him? why the hell don't you take a chance on someone that other people agree has some value, tt? why do you always have to find the most obscure player out there? dang, this is frustrating...

The Giants believed he had value, he had already been informed that he had made the team before the trade. Just because YOU don't know who he is, doesn't mean GMs and coaches don't.

As for giving up a draft pick, it was most likely a late round pick and in that case, so what! There are a million ways to get an extra 6th or 7th round pick in the draft.

Listen, I have been all over TT as well but you can't come down on the guy for going out getting guys like this. He gave up very little for him so in the end if it doesnt pan out, so what.

Let me ask you this? What good is that late round pick in the 2008 NFL draft going to do for our team this year? How many TDs will it score? How many plays will it make? NONE. Ryan Grant may.

Kudos to you GBPackfan. You've been tough on TT but you're fair in this comment.

[RashanGary]

I think this had everything to do with Mornecy and Herron being hurt. This move reaks of desperation, it wouldn't suprise me if this ends up going on TT's list of mistakes when it's all said and done.

[Lurker64]

I think this had everything to do with Mornecy and Herron being hurt. This move reaks of desperation, it wouldn't suprise me if this ends up going on TT's list of mistakes when it's all said and done.

Really, it depends on what the undisclosed pick is. I don't know if trading a 6th or 7th round pick can really land in the "mistakes" column. Most of those guys don't make teams, and it's easy to get more of them by trading down in the draft (since they're worth so few points.)

[Fritz]

I'm behind. When did Herron get hurt, and how bad is it?

[woodbuck27]

Thanks for the highlight, woodbuck

Nothing there to see though. So let's go here for a look.

R.Grant has a TD in this loss to the Pat's.

but zoooooop. . . it's not on the highlight film.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=PRE4&game_id=29501

Rushing Giants in the final Pre Season game, a 27-20 loss to the Pat's:

................ ATT YDS TD LG

A. Bradshaw 6 46 0 20
R. Droughns 5 38 0 33
D. Ward 4 25 0 11
B. Jacobs 8 21 1 6
J. Lorenzen 1 10 0 10
R. Grant 4 4 1 6

4th QTR.

New York Giants at 02:54
3-S.Gostkowski kicks 68 yards from NE 30 to NYG 2. 44-A.Bradshaw to NYG 33 for 31 yards (46-C.Mays).
1-10-NYG 33 (2:46) NYG 2-Wright now at QB. (Shotgun) 2-A.Wright pass short left to 82-B.London to NYG 45 for 12 yards (23-W.Andrews, 31-B.Meriweather).
1-10-NYG 45 (2:15) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 39-R.Grant right end pushed ob at NE 49 for 6 yards (38-D.Wesley).
2-4-NE 49 (2:09) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 2-A.Wright pass short left to 82-B.London to NE 44 for 5 yards (31-B.Meriweather).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-NE 44 (2:00) (Shotgun) 2-A.Wright pass short left to 87-K.McMahan to NE 14 for 30 yards (24-M.Mitchell).
1-10-NE 14 (1:34) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 2-A.Wright pass incomplete short left to 87-K.McMahan.
2-10-NE 14 (1:29) (Shotgun) 2-A.Wright pass short right to 82-B.London to NE 1 for 13 yards (52-E.Alexander).
1-1-NE 1 (:58) (No Huddle) 39-R.Grant up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. NE-31-B.Meriweather was injured during the play.
Timeout #1 by NE at 00:49.
5-J.Huston extra point is GOOD, Center-51-Z.DeOssie, Holder-18-J.Feagles.

NYG 20 NE 27 Plays: 7 Possession: 2:05

[Bretsky]

Can this trade put to rest the whole "TT loves his draft picks so much he'll NEVER give one up"?

Only if I can keep saying TT would never give up a high draft pick for an established player to win now

Seriously, though, I have no issues with this deal. Let's see how it pans out before criticizing or giving credit.