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    Wynn may give Packers best chance to win
    Posted: Sept. 12, 2007

    Tom Silverstein
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    Green Bay - Forty-six rushing yards into the 2007 season, the Green Bay Packers are fortunate to be 1-0 and headed to New York for a matchup against an injury-depleted Giants team.

    Sounds like a good time to play it safe. You know, carry your cash in a money belt, stay out of the subway, buy your theater tickets at a box office. And most of all, don't buy the meat-on-a-stick from a street vendor.

    While all of that might be good advice for those Packers who venture into Manhattan on Saturday, it wouldn't hurt to take a chance on Sunday. It's as good a time as any to find out whether rookie running back DeShawn Wynn can make it big on Broadway.

    It's time to turn him loose.

    Right now, Brandon Jackson, another rookie, is a safe choice to be the starting halfback. He has more plays in the offense this season than Wynn, Vernand Morency and Ryan Grant combined, has better hands than the others and has no noticeable character flaws that would make you question his effort level.

    But safety is sometimes a dangerous thing in the NFL and if you don't take a chance with your most talented players you're cheating your football team. Wynn, by far, has the best combination of speed (4.47 seconds in the 40-yard dash), size (5-10½, 232 pounds) and natural running ability of any of the other running backs.

    What you saw on the 18-yard pitch and run Wynn executed against the Philadelphia Eagles in the season-opener was the type of vision and cutting ability the Packers need while their offensive line tries to figure out the zone-blocking system. Wynn not only had the instinct to get upfield after quarterback Brett Favre underhanded him the ball, he used his blockers to get the necessary yards for the first down and put the Packers in field goal position.

    When the Packers drafted Jackson in the second round, they envisioned Morency being their starter and Jackson a complement who could fill the third-down position and offer a little more power to Morency's flashy style. That all went to pot when patellar tendonitis shelved Morency on the first day of training camp and Jackson was thrust into the starting lineup.

    Wynn, meanwhile, was a flier the Packers took in the seventh round out of Florida. Had he not come with a reputation for being lazy and unwilling to play through injuries, he would have been a much higher pick. The Packers took him with the 18th pick in the seventh round, which means he was pretty close to not being drafted at all.

    And for awhile, the Packers saw glimpses of why he didn't deserve to be.

    He missed all but one day of the rookie mini-camp in May with a pulled calf, missed all of the full-team mini-camp later that month and later missed a portion of the organized team activities in June. He reported to training camp with a stomach virus and missed four practices and then just as he was getting back in shape hurt his right thigh and missed nine practices and three exhibition games.

    He made the team simply based on the lack of depth at his position and the little bit he flashed in practice and the final exhibition game. After he made the team, McCarthy sat down with him and told him flat out that he'd have to start playing through minor injuries and display some toughness if he wanted to stick around.

    Since that time, Wynn hasn't missed a practice and played approximately 15 plays in the 16-13 victory over the Eagles. All of his action came as a third-down back, which limited his ability to touch the ball because often he was staying in to help block against the Eagles' blitz.

    Jackson, meanwhile, touched the ball 19 times (15 runs, four catches) and generated 75 yards. His longest play from scrimmage was a 15-yard reception. Wynn surpassed that total on one of his two touches. His other play was an 8-yard run.

    You can see the speed and power in Wynn's legs. He is built low to the ground with thick thighs and lean calves. Sometimes he dances too much when he gets near the line of scrimmage, but you can tell he has been toting the ball since he was young (he was one of the nation's highest-rated running backs coming out of Cincinnati's Reading High School) and played in a pro-style offense at Florida.

    Whereas Jackson dropped the first pass Favre threw to him on what looked to be a substantial gain and seemed to lose confidence, Wynn plays with the swagger of someone who expects to break a big gain the next time he catches a ball.

    Jackson got stronger as the game wore on and ran with more authority late in the game. But as the coaches studied tape, they saw that he lost his way on a number of running plays, running outside of the designed path. It's part of the inexperience Jackson brings to the position after starting just 11 games and rushing 291 times at Nebraska.

    In the coming weeks, Wynn could see more time as the lead back in the offense, but right now McCarthy faces difficulty in bringing him along for these reasons:


    Jackson is further along in the offense than Wynn because he was healthy most of training camp and was receiving the majority of snaps.

    McCarthy has to get Morency carries in practice so that he can continue to come back from the injury and get to the position where he's ready to play more than just a few plays.

    Committing to Wynn at this point would be a risk because Jackson's development would be slowed and he would be less ready to handle the starting job if Wynn got hurt.

    McCarthy also has to get Grant, the back the Packers acquired from the Giants for a sixth-round pick, into the mix. The coaches and scouting department are very high on Grant and they think he could be someone they can rely upon.
    In practice, McCarthy has set up a halfback-by-committee format where he sets aside plays for each of the backs and makes sure they are well-schooled in them. All of them can run other plays, but they are more prepared to run their particular packages.

    With Wynn, the Packers are still finding out what he does best.

    "We don't have a ton of information because he hasn't practiced, but we feel like we have a very good handle on what DeShawn's strengths are and we're giving him opportunities to play in those situations. We have a good feel for Brandon. Brandon is the one back that has benefited from all the injuries because he's got reps in everything. We're just kind of projecting in some sense and playing each guy in certain categories."

    The bottom line, however, is that the running game needs someone who can turn a 1-yard gain into a 4-yard gain. It needs an athlete with power and explosiveness, a back with a knack for using his blockers and avoiding tacklers.

    Now is as good a time as any to find out whether Wynn is that guy.

    There is plenty of risk with him, but the Packers have had all camp to find out about Jackson and what they've discovered is that he's not ready to be a lead back. Now it's Wynn's turn at bat. They shouldn't waste any more time and should start getting him the practice time he needs to vie for the starting job.

    He can't do much worse than 46 yards.
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  • #2
    I still think B-Jack should be the starter, but Wynn definitely needs to get more involved. He follows his blocks and doesn't hesitate, which is one thing Jackson needs to work on.
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    • #3
      RB

      Neither Jackson or Wynn are ready to start in the NFL. They have been thrown into the fire with no time to learn. Our best chance is for Morency to come back and hope he can stay healthy while the other 2 learn the NFL.

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      • #4
        Re: RB

        Originally posted by Packnut
        Neither Jackson or Wynn are ready to start in the NFL. They have been thrown into the fire with no time to learn. Our best chance is for Morency to come back and hope he can stay healthy while the other 2 learn the NFL.
        ..and when is Morency going to come back? Wynn has to get some carries so we can see what he's got.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #5
          Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

          Originally posted by motife
          After he made the team, McCarthy sat down with him and told him flat out that he'd have to start playing through minor injuries and display some toughness if he wanted to stick around.
          If McCarthy really said this, it's reasonable to assume that the only people in the room were McCarthy and Wynn. It's unthinkable that either would repeat it to the press. This smells like a crock of doo-doo that Silverstein cooked up.

          Originally posted by motife
          They shouldn't waste any more time and should start getting him the practice time he needs to vie for the starting job.
          I would say that the coaches ought to be open-minded in evaluating Wynn, Jackson & Morency. It is not at all clear which will be the best player. I hope and expect that Jackson won't be given priority because he was the highest draft pick. The cream will rise to the top.

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          • #6
            Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby

            I would say that the coaches ought to be open-minded in evaluating Wynn, Jackson & Morency. It is not at all clear which will be the best player. I hope and expect that Jackson won't be given priority because he was the highest draft pick. The cream will rise to the top.
            With the way Harrell, Rayner, Manuel and Ferguson got treated, I'd say this coaching staff is pretty open to keeping the best player over the established guy or the higher pick.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #7
              ya, I agree JH, I think the back will emerge and be named the starter by midseason. I won't be surprised if it is any of the three.

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              • #8
                Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                Originally posted by motife
                After he made the team, McCarthy sat down with him and told him flat out that he'd have to start playing through minor injuries and display some toughness if he wanted to stick around.
                If McCarthy really said this, it's reasonable to assume that the only people in the room were McCarthy and Wynn. It's unthinkable that either would repeat it to the press. This smells like a crock of doo-doo that Silverstein cooked up.
                Here is Wynn's version pf the conversation:

                Wynn, meanwhile, said Thompson and McCarthy made it clear to him that his roster spot is tenuous.

                ``Basically, (they said) I've got to prove myself and work hard, and if they see any decline in my work ethic or my mentality, I probably won't be here long,'' said Wynn, who rushed 21 times for 54 yards against Tennessee. ``Some people may feel like I don't deserve to be on the 53-man roster. The message is pretty much to earn my keep.''
                While the position would appear just as clouded as it was entering camp, Thompson maintained the stance he's held throughout: He's not concerned.
                I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #9
                  Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  Here is Wynn's version pf the conversation
                  ya, thanks for the quote. I've read that before. And the quote from McCarthy that Wynn should "not get to comfortable."

                  Silverstein made-up the "injuries and toughnes" part to make a good story.

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                  • #10
                    I honestly think that Wynn has more natural talent than any back on the Packers roster, and if he can turn that Talent into skill than I have no doubt he will be the starter by season end.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      Here is Wynn's version pf the conversation
                      ya, thanks for the quote. I've read that before. And the quote from McCarthy that Wynn should "not get to comfortable."

                      Silverstein made-up the "injuries and toughnes" part to make a good story.
                      I think they call it poetic license.
                      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #12
                        Re: Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        Here is Wynn's version pf the conversation
                        ya, thanks for the quote. I've read that before. And the quote from McCarthy that Wynn should "not get to comfortable."

                        Silverstein made-up the "injuries and toughnes" part to make a good story.
                        I think they call it poetic license.
                        THERE IS NO POETIC LICENSE IN JOURNALISM!!!!!
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #13
                          There are players that play far better than they practice. I dont know what it is, but there is something that clicks in them when they get into game-time situations. Lets not forget that Jerry Rice was considered slow..... But how often did you ever see him get caught from behind in a game-time scenario? NEVER (Rarely).

                          Its something called game time speed and you cannot measure it empirically. Thats why I actually think that Greg Jennings is a legit deep ball threat. Early last year he was BF's choice for down the sideline deep routes. I think Wynn may be the same type player.

                          Give him a shot at some more touches and see what happens. So far it has been so good.

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                          • #14
                            I am getting ready to start the official DeShawn Wynn fan club. He is that player that I have latched onto as my dream/hope/fantasy player who comes out of nowhere for no real reason and develops into an NFL star.

                            However, in order to get this baby off the ground, I need to know more about the guy, so I'm asking for your help. First of all, I'm too lazy to look it up, so what's his jersey number? I want to get a Wynn Packer jersey. Second, in order to be a true fan club I - and the myriad members who will flock to it - need to know more about this guy.

                            Okay, he was lazy and all in college. That we know. And that's cool, because Americans love "the light went on" success stories. But we need to know more. For example, does he have cool hair like Al Harris or Atari Bigby? Has he ever done anything really interesting or quirky, like poop in somebody's laundry basket? Does he sound illiterate, and if so, can we say that it's just his street background and that in fact he's street smart AND football smart? Is he a wild clubber, or does he go home and play Halo 3? Does he have any illegitimate children? Any lawsuits pending? Does he eat too much junk food? Does he secretly read Jane Austen novels? What kind of car does he drive? Does he call Brett Favre "pops"?
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              I am getting ready to start the official DeShawn Wynn fan club. He is that player that I have latched onto as my dream/hope/fantasy player who comes out of nowhere for no real reason and develops into an NFL star.

                              However, in order to get this baby off the ground, I need to know more about the guy, so I'm asking for your help. First of all, I'm too lazy to look it up, so what's his jersey number? I want to get a Wynn Packer jersey. Second, in order to be a true fan club I - and the myriad members who will flock to it - need to know more about this guy.

                              Okay, he was lazy and all in college. That we know. And that's cool, because Americans love "the light went on" success stories. But we need to know more. For example, does he have cool hair like Al Harris or Atari Bigby? Has he ever done anything really interesting or quirky, like poop in somebody's laundry basket? Does he sound illiterate, and if so, can we say that it's just his street background and that in fact he's street smart AND football smart? Is he a wild clubber, or does he go home and play Halo 3? Does he have any illegitimate children? Any lawsuits pending? Does he eat too much junk food? Does he secretly read Jane Austen novels? What kind of car does he drive? Does he call Brett Favre "pops"?
                              Wynn's Wynners?

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