Silverstein: Wynn may give GB best chance to win

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hopefully Wynn can keep this up.

[Fritz]

I'm prepared to play an active & passionate role in Fritz's Wynn Fan Club.

We may be grasping at straws. But Wynn looks like a Wynner.

We need a name. Here's a thought: Wynn's True Fans - then we can be the WTF Club.

I like your other piece of wordplay. Everyone's a Wynner, baby.

[GrnBay007]

We need a name. Here's a thought: Wynn's True Fans - then we can be the WTF Club.

[ND72]

Gotta be honest...I've never liked Wynn. People are NOT seeing things fully. YES, he has been somewhat impressive. He had 10 carries for 50 yards. His 2 Touchdowns were on Draw plays...2 plays, 46 yards, 2 TDs.....his 8 other carries went for 4 yards. His 9 total other carries have gone for 12 yards. I think he is a great change of pace, or 3rd down back. But he's not a starter. He doesn't catch the ball very well, never has.

Yes, I do like Brandon Jackson...Do I think he's been doing amazing, no. But I also question the run calls, and in general, the run scheme. I think he'll find his niche and go with it. Jackson has a lot more talent and growth than Wynn does.

If Jackson had gotten any hole like Wynn did on his 38 yard TD (draw play), I'm sure Jackson would be looking a whole lot better also. Jackson catches the ball very well though, and reads very well.

I also think Ryan Grant is going to show something as well that many of us haven't seen yet. He's a very fluid zone runner. I do like what McCarthy is doing by shaking things around a lot with Jackson & Wynn.

I DO think however, that Jackson & Wynn are a perfect compliment to eachother. Jackson is a finese, read and react runner, and Wynn is a "bigger" run down hill runner.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If Jackson had gotten any hole like Wynn did on his 38 yard TD (draw play), I'm sure Jackson would be looking a whole lot better also. Jackson catches the ball very well though, and reads very well.

We've seen Jackson extensively for 6 games. People are entitled to their impressions. Hey, including you!

Ya, the blocking has sucked. But the other backs are dealing with the same situation.

This is a contest that will be easy to evaluate. All 4 backs are going to get some carries, we'll see who can play. You can only say "Wynn got all the breaks" for so long.

And although I pull for Wynn, I actually expect Morency to rise to the top of the heap in about a month from now.

[ND72]

If Jackson had gotten any hole like Wynn did on his 38 yard TD (draw play), I'm sure Jackson would be looking a whole lot better also. Jackson catches the ball very well though, and reads very well.

We've seen Jackson extensively for 6 games. People are entitled to their impressions.

Ya, the blocking has sucked. But the other backs are dealing with the same situation.

This is a contest that will be easy to evaluate. All 4 backs are going to get some carries, we'll see who can play. You can only say "Wynn got all the breaks" for so long.

And although I pull for Wynn, I actually expect Morency to rise to the top of the heap in about a month from now.

It isn't that I think Wynn has gotten the breaks...wynn has ran 3 Draw plays for 54 yards. He's ran 8 zone plays for 12 yards. Our base is zone...so take what you want from that.

And Jackson has ran nothing but zones so far.

[mission]

"Gotta be honest...I've never liked Wynn. People are NOT seeing things fully."

you guys are hilarious. how is the rational that the remainder of wynn's runs only netted 8 yards valid at all? did you see wynn juke the hell out of the defender and leave his jock on the ground? and then outrun everyone else? ive yet to see jackson put a move on ANYONE.

does that make barry sanders an average running back, because, take away his long runs, he was always getting stopped behind the line?

"Yes, I do like Brandon Jackson...Do I think he's been doing amazing, no."

based on what? he's done nothing. even on draws... hasnt made anyone miss. hasnt outrun anyone. i think he has a lot of potential (to stay in the league). and if the kid is gonna be a finesse runner, he better start running with a sense of urgency.

i like them both but you talk so definitively as if it's soooo obvious that it just makes me chuckle. you base your support of jackson on a bad running scheme yet don't apply that same logic to the lack of wynn production in normal running situations.

how about M3 stop calling run plays on first down like it's religion and we might have a chance.

[ND72]

"Gotta be honest...I've never liked Wynn. People are NOT seeing things fully."

you guys are hilarious. how is the rational that the remainder of wynn's runs only netted 8 yards valid at all? did you see wynn juke the hell out of the defender and leave his jock on the ground? and then outrun everyone else? ive yet to see jackson put a move on ANYONE.

does that make barry sanders an average running back, because, take away his long runs, he was always getting stopped behind the line?

"Yes, I do like Brandon Jackson...Do I think he's been doing amazing, no."

based on what? he's done nothing. even on draws... hasnt made anyone miss. hasnt outrun anyone. i think he has a lot of potential (to stay in the league). and if the kid is gonna be a finesse runner, he better start running with a sense of urgency.

i like them both but you talk so definitively as if it's soooo obvious that it just makes me chuckle. you base your support of jackson on a bad running scheme yet don't apply that same logic to the lack of wynn production in normal running situations.

how about M3 stop calling run plays on first down like it's religion and we might have a chance.

no, you're taking this wrong. Yes, I do like Jackson, and Yes, I didn't like Wynn in college, or WYNN (ok it's catchy) we drafted him, or anytime since then. But, I'm excited to see someone take the bull by the horns right now.

All I'm saying is we aren't looking at this fully. In his 9 zone plays, which is 99.9% of all running plays we've called, he's had 12 yards. In his 3 draw plays, which is what they call as a change of pace, catch them off guard play...he's done VERY WELL. Why does that make sense to everyone else I've talked to but nobody on here?

I do want to see Jackson do well, that doesn't mean I don't want Wynn to do well. I see a lot more potential in Jackson, than I do in Wynn...that's my opinion. Everyone keeps saying the Wynn thing is there opinion...ok great, this is my opinion. But, I am also giving some statistical FACT...in our base running plays, Wynn has 9 carries - 12 yards (1.3 ypc), Jackson has 32 carries - 75 yards (2.3 ypc)...that's just our zone plays. Yes, Wynn has 12 total carries for 64 yards (5.3)...

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree with ND. Wynn has had a few nice runs, but Jackson hasn't had the blocking that Wynn had on those two TD runs. Right now, both guys are below average. If I had to pick who will be the best long-term player in the NFL, I'd probably still choose Jackson. Neither look as good as Morency did last year. I wouldn't count Grant out either. Apparently, if you get a huge holes on a couple of runs, the dropped passes, false starts, and the unimpressive running for the rest of the three games are forgotten. Right now, I'd say it's still a crapshoot on who rises to the top.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll take back my comment on the second Wynn TD. The middle was stuffed, and he showed good awareness to take it outside and did well with it. I'd like to see what Jackson (and Grant) can do if he got a little blocking. Jackson is tentative at times, but I wonder if some of it is because he's thinking too much and is struggling with not having any room to run. I have seen him make people miss when he has room--especially on some of the pass plays. Even if you go back to his Steelers and Seahawks highlights, he had some nice runs. He almost seems to be getting more tentative with each game (and each game with more putrid run blocking), so he's probably thinking too much. He doesn't look as decisive as he did at Nebraska.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was impressed with Wynn even in the preseason game where the blocking was horrible and he struggled. He is a fluid runner, good instincts and some power. Its still just a hunch that he can be good.

I'll tell ya who Jackson reminds me of: Leshon Johnson or Darrell Thompson. And he's not as fast as either of those guys. He's a little stiff like those two undistinguished backs.

But I don't know where Jackson is going to go. He could still pan out. If he can become a good pass reciever, that will help a lot.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I was impressed with Wynn even in the preseason game where the blocking was horrible and he struggled.

I don't know if you were even around, and I stated that he kind of impressed me in that game--while some others thought he should be cut. I'm kind of in between. I think he belongs in the NFL, but I don't think he should be a team's #1 RB.

Jackson doesn't remind of Leshon Johnson or Darrell Thompson. Totally different running styles, in my book. Thompson was a big dude with limited cutting ability. Leshon wasn't tentative. He just never had any instincts. I think it's too early to tell on Jackson. Leshon was a great athlete. Jackson reminds me more of Travis Jervey--without the speed. Travis ran tentatively.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jackson resembles Darrell Thompson in his mechanical, Forrest Gump-like leg action. "And I was RUNNING."

[KYPack]

I agree with a lot of this. There is one aspect, tho. Wynn did make his yards on a gimmick play, but he made the play. I don't think any of our other lads could have broke that play off as sucessfully as Wynn.

I also wanted to add a little to my previous post re:Wynn. About 4 weeks ago, I was in a popular rib joint in Cincy. An old friend of mine came up to me to hang out. One of his first words were that the Packers have drafted a sure fire NFL star. I was thinking Harrell or somebody when my pal came out with the name DeShawn Wynn. My buddy is the principal of the high school next to the one (Reading) that Wynn attended. My pal tried to get Wynn to go his high school instead of Reading when Wynn was in 8th grade.

Wynn eventually refused, but he wrote my pal an articulate, well thought out 2 page letter explaining his reasons for going to the rival high school Wynn made the right choice, he gained over 2000 yards for 3 seasons and was one of the top 15 college prospects. My pal Willie has always been impressed with Wynn, you don't gets lots of thoughtful 2 page letters from 8th graders.

Then came Wynn's decision to go to FLA. Both Wynn and his family feel he got royally screwed by Urban Meyer and the Fla coaching staff. Willie told me flat out that Wynn wants to succeed with a burning desire so he can show the Fla coaching staff what a mistake they all made.

if all this is true, I love it. Give me a young athlete with a case of the ass and something to prove every time. Wynn sounds like Packer people, let's see if he can't be a Packer star.

[the_idle_threat]

WTF!!!!!!