Is Greenway better than Hodge?

[No Mo Moss]

So Barnett would be the one covering up the TE right?

[wist43]

Yeah, I'd prefer to see Barnett on the outside... which side, I'm not sure. He has some deficiencies to his game that make him a liability out there as well.

You mentioned that he doesn't get off blocks well, which is true, but he also doesn't hold the point of attack well... Barnett is a "run around" guy every time, that can make for some enormous holes to run thru.

Given Hawk or Barnett, I'd take Hawk on the strong side in a traditional 4-3 b/c I think he's bigger, stronger, and tougher, i.e. he'd be able to deal with the TE more effectively.

That said, we all know that the defensive system the Packers are running doesn't employ the strong side backer in a traditional sense... so, from that standpoint, I'm not sure it matters which side Barnett moved to - I am convinced however, that he does, in fact, need to be moved to one of the outside spots.

[No Mo Moss]

Wist,

I agree with your statement. In this system the weakside backer has more freedom to make plays. It would be ashame to put our best defensive playmaker on the TE. If that's true I would want hawk on the Weak side.

What about ben Taylor though. I think he may beat Hodge out. What's his natural position though. Barnett in the middle, Hawk on the Weak side and Taylor on the strong side would be a good starting line-up.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The safeties are set-up to be the playmakers in both defenses by coming over the top. It kind of makes you wonder why they wanted Manual. You'd think they'd really want safeties that were burners in this scheme.

I think Manuel is a little faster than he's given credit for. At least, he looked that way last year. Last year, I thought Seattle would really get hurt by losing Ken Hamlin, but Manuel did a good job. He seemed like a legit starter. More of an in the box safety, but he seemed to have some cover ability and range also. I'm hopeful he's the answer. Ironically, Seattle was hurt worse in the Super Bowl when they lost him then they were when Hamlin got injured. Obviously, a major dropoff to their third safety.

[Charles Woodson]

Kinda OT but, which LB would you rather have. Ernie Sims or Chad Greenway? I find it interesting that the NFC North drafted the top 3 LB in the draft.

[Partial]

Well, it depends. Greenway is probably the better technician, but Sims is a crazy mofo like Greg Lloyd.

I'd take sims.

[Rastak]

Well, it depends. Greenway is probably the better technician, but Sims is a crazy mofo like Greg Lloyd.

I'd take sims.

I liked Sims alot intially but those 5 concussions and his size made me lean more toward Greenway.

[No Mo Moss]

Rastak, I don't think you can compare Hawk to Greenway. Based just on their college body of work, AJ Hawk completely took over games. He was head and shoulders the best LB in the draft. It should be interesting to watch.
Some brought up the draft from two years ago when the pack, vikes and Lions all took LBs early. Nick Barnett, Boss Bailey, EJ Henderson.
Hopefuly the pack still get the best of the three in Ernie Sims, AJ Hawk, Chad Greenway. I think they have a pretty good chance of having the best LBer.

[RashanGary]

Hawk was more physically dominate. Greenway made the play but Hawk blew up the play. I think a lot of those plays that Greenway narrowly made in college he will be unable to make in the NFL.

Hawk on the other hand was blowing up the competition and while the level of comp will rise, Hawk was so far above his comp that he should fit right in.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I like Sims more as a player, but I like Greenway more as a draft pick (because of those concussions). I might take Carpenter over both of them.

[mraynrand]

I, for the life of me, can't figure out what anybody sees in Greenway... I watched him play twice this past year, and I didn't put him at any better than a mid-round pick... and, yes, I was targetting watching both him and Hodge the whole game.

The Iowa games I watched this year, it was Hodge that jumped off the screen at you, not Greenway.

Greenway was an absolute wimp at the point of attack, he couldn't get off blocks, and he couldn't change direction in the open field... He got juked out of his jock more than once.

Hodge, on the other hand, flew to the ball, got off blocks effectively, hit a ton, and was generally all over the field - he was clearly the best defender Iowa had on the field.

To me, Hodge was clearly the better player in the games that I saw.

These old threads are awesome

[call_me_ishmael]

Agreed

[Guiness]

+1 for the Barnett mention higher on this page. Is he still playing?

[Brandon494]

Dig up some more.

[Freak Out]

LOL where in then hell did this come from?