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  • Has McCarthy Corraled The Gunslinger?

    Last Sunday Favre played his best game in three to four years. He took care of the ball, and did not throw caution to the wind by throwing risky passes into tight spots. Hopefully this is a trend, not just an abboration.
    Maybe the fact that he doesn't have the big weapons, has actually made him better. He has to be patient now, because he knows there isn't a big play threat on the field. Or maybe, he has more confidence in the defense. Whatever the reason, It's great to see.
    Nice job, Brett, keep up the good work. It was fun watching him play the way he is capable of.

    Maybe Mike McCarthy will prolong Favre's career, and make his last couple of years productive ones.

  • #2
    I don't think he was corralled as much as that was what the defense was giving them. He still took his chances down the field and connected on one to Jones and got a flag with Martin. Keep in mind that NYG defense is atrocious and even the sideline announcers were saying they were lifeless on the sidelines. I don't mean to take anything away from Favre's performance because he looked great. I think that they are adding the chemistry that they were lacking early on and that is helping quite a bit. Also I think MM should be commended for his Halftime adjustments.
    Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
    Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.

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    • #3
      QB's

      It's really very simple. QB has time to throw ball (like against the G-men), QB completes lots of passes and looks good. QB gets pounded (like against Philly) and QB look's like crap. No mystery to it..........

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      • #4
        MM is showing Favre more respect by allowing him to change plays at the line than Sherman and Rossley ever did. He is being rewarded with better decision making. On both of Wynn's TD runs Sunday, a pass play was called but Favre switched to running plays based on what he saw in the defense. In the past, Favre might have been forced to attempt a pass into tight coverage instead of switching the play. Favre has probably seen more different defensive alignments than any player in the history of the game. It would be foolish not to take advantage of that knowledge. MM is no fool.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          Favre

          Originally posted by Joemailman
          MM is showing Favre more respect by allowing him to change plays at the line than Sherman and Rossley ever did. He is being rewarded with better decision making. On both of Wynn's TD runs Sunday, a pass play was called but Favre switched to running plays based on what he saw in the defense. In the past, Favre might have been forced to attempt a pass into tight coverage instead of switching the play. Favre has probably seen more different defensive alignments than any player in the history of the game. It would be foolish not to take advantage of that knowledge. MM is no fool.
          Excellent point. I often wondered why no one took advantage of Favre's experience. Dungy does it with Manning and it's proven to give the advantage to the offense.

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          • #6
            Taking a chance does not mean throwing a long pass down the sideline, in fact that is a low risk pass because the sideline is right there, taking a chance is scrambling in the pocket, and then seeing a #80 in the middle of the field and trying to bullet one into him when defenders are buzzing around all over the place.

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            • #7
              One of the most impressive moments of the game Sunday for me was "I think this was in the forth quarter" when we were in Eagles territory Favre went through his first read, second read, third read, and maybe even his forth and then proceeded to chuck the ball out of bounds. That hardly ever happens.
              "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee

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              • #8
                The concept is baloney. In 2005 Brett and Donald were all the Packers had as offensive weapons. Remember how many RB's started for the Packers??

                Back in the 70's all the Bears had was Walter Payton and they slammed him into the line repeatedly for 2-3 yards a play. Did that make Walter a back RB?

                Brett plays to win. Having a good teammates to rely on is the difference.
                The Packers have the best defense in 10 years. The Packers can outscore the other team without Brett attempting to outscore the other team.

                Having Bubba upgrade his game, adding Jones, and experience to other players has also helped.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  MM is showing Favre more respect by allowing him to change plays at the line than Sherman and Rossley ever did. He is being rewarded with better decision making. On both of Wynn's TD runs Sunday, a pass play was called but Favre switched to running plays based on what he saw in the defense. In the past, Favre might have been forced to attempt a pass into tight coverage instead of switching the play. Favre has probably seen more different defensive alignments than any player in the history of the game. It would be foolish not to take advantage of that knowledge. MM is no fool.
                  Exactly!
                  "It's mind over matter... if you don't mind, it don't matter." - #4, Brett Favre

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                  • #10
                    I donno if it's been mentioned, but it has a lot to do with the belief Favre has in McCarthy as well. the more "used" to Holmgren Farve got, the better he was. Favre totally believed in Sherman, and even though in Sherman's final year Favre tossed a ton of INT's, it had a lot to do with out team at that time. Which I think does here as well. I think Favre likes what he has in Driver, eventually Jennings, Jones, Martin, Franks, & Lee, and even more so when K-Rob makes a return. I'd go 5 wide a ton with Driver, Jones, Jennings, K-Rob, & Martin.
                    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                    • #11
                      A McCarthy-corralled Favre is obviously a much better player and a relief.
                      I much prefer wins over the gunslinger rah rah antics that have led to many losses that should have been wins in the past.
                      Kudos to McCarthy.
                      Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                      • #12
                        Re: QB's

                        Originally posted by Packnut
                        It's really very simple. QB has time to throw ball (like against the G-men), QB completes lots of passes and looks good. QB gets pounded (like against Philly) and QB look's like crap. No mystery to it..........
                        Exactly!!!! Favre plays with what he has to play with. When we didnt have much of a defense, he tried to win games by playing the gunslinger. Now that we have a good Defense, Favre manages the Offense like the professional that he is. As long as the Defense and Special Teams does their part, and the O-line gives Brett protection, he is going to look good. When everything else falls apart around him..........

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                        • #13
                          what a dumb thread.. you are never gonna "corral" favre... hes still thrown 2 picks in the first two games which is about his average in his normal seasons. People are making too big of a deal out of his INT's from the 2005 and 2006 seasons... Favres always thrown INT's, infact I think his best games are the 275+ yards with 2-3 tds and 1 int... for some reason thats how i'll always remember the guy... when u play as long, and thrown the ball as many times... INT's are gonna happen... get over it

                          the only difference is for the first two games, hes not throwing a pick when we cant have one.. thats the only difference in his play and i thank him for that

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                          • #14
                            Why all the thread bashing? If you can't see the difference in Favre this year, compared to the last few seasons then you are not paying attention. Watch the games before you get liquored up, that might help.

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                            • #15
                              Dammit.

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