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  • #31
    Cleft,

    I thought the final two-minute office was lame. Pacing way too slow, too many dump-off passes, ended up with long desperation pass.

    Doesn't some of this poor execuction fall on the field general, Brett Fahrvrah?

    edit: evidently Cleft just fell asleep in his puffy easy chair, droil rolling down his chin.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pacopete4
      last week in the dome.. favre threw for over 350 when we were winning the whole game... week before pretty much the same... this week shoulda been the same.. shoulda ended up about 350, 2 td's, 1 int and about a 10 point win if mccarthy didnt blow it
      Would Coulda Shoulda. These are the buzz words of losers. Favres yardage was empty because the Bears vastly superior playmakers made plays. At corner back, the Packers were -3 in turnovers. At LB, Urlacher made a shoestring INT resulting in a TD, and shut down the Packers TEs all night. Brady Poppinga gave a free release on a critical third down and Barnett got a 15 yard facemask on another. Great Players make great plays for Elite teams. Chicago was missing multiple starters and was playing with a stumblebum at QB. The Packers were so terrified of the BEars D line, they wouldn't even pass in the second half until the Bears were playing prevent. They were so terrified of Hester they gave Chicago great field position all night. Face reality - the Bears are a vastly superior team.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        Cleft,

        I thought older, retired gentlemen like yourself ate dinner at the early bird special, then settled into bed around 8:30.

        How you holding up tonight?
        I took several naps during the day. I was responsible for watching the Lions Redskins game. Nothing much there to keep me awake.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
          Cleft,

          I thought the final two-minute office was lame. Pacing way too slow, too many dump-off passes, ended up with long desperation pass.

          Doesn't some of this poor execuction fall on the field general, Brett Fahrvrah?

          edit: evidently Cleft just fell asleep in his puffy easy chair, droil rolling down his chin.
          Sorry Mr. Harlan,

          My Lipitor makes me queasy - but at least my Cholesterol level is down to 37.

          The Packers final drive was just fine, considering the Bears were playing back and keeping everything in front of them and also watching the sidelines. But you're right, the Packers let too many seconds tick off. They shouldn't have had to settle for such a long final pass.

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          • #35
            boy.. you musta put in a game tape of the first game last year to think the bears were the better team on that field last night..

            i agree with you that real players make plays when they need to but man.. the packers had the most talent on that field by far and we're talking special teams too.. we covered when we had to and had some nice run backs.. yes woodson coughed up the ball but thats all apart of the game if youre gonna tell me thats cuz the bears are so much better i wanna know why they have 3 loses already..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              boy.. you musta put in a game tape of the first game last year to think the bears were the better team on that field last night..

              i agree with you that real players make plays when they need to but man.. the packers had the most talent on that field by far and we're talking special teams too.. we covered when we had to and had some nice run backs.. yes woodson coughed up the ball but thats all apart of the game if youre gonna tell me thats cuz the bears are so much better i wanna know why they have 3 loses already..
              The Bears started the game missing 3 starters and lost two more during the game. Their biggest two problems all season long have been injuries and the play of their QB. Last night their QB was OK. Their defense totally shut out the Packer offense in the second half, when it mattered and they collectively MADE PLAYS. Don't you understand - all the yards in the world mean nothing if you can make plays, cause turnovers and win, even with 5 starters out. The fact that Griese played better than Favre in the second half and the fact that the Bears will get some of their starters back and at full strength should worry the Packers. The Bears are still clearly an Elite team and the team to beat in the NFC north. They were clearly better than the Packers last night.

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              • #37
                out of all the analysts and non bear fans.. youre the only person to say that i think.. it was clear the packers were the better TEAM and just fell flat.. i'd bet you the bears wont sniff the NFC north crown... oh, and talk about coulda woulda shoulda.. u throw injuries at me? they are apart of the game my friend.. the pack had a few themself

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                • #38
                  I am not going to sit here and bitch to about play calling, the fact is McCarthy thought he could do something and he couldn't in the second half, but do you drastically change your game plan based on what the other team does?

                  You make valid points about the unnecessary penalties and turnovers. What I saw though was a better talented team crack under the pressure and a team that has gotten breaks in the past due to their lack of concentration.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cleft Crusty

                    Yes, but you have to come to grips with the fact that Chicago is the better team, because of it's defense.
                    The fact that the Packers are 4-1 and the Bears are 2-3 would seem to contradict your "fact" that Chicago is the better team.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by esoxx
                      Originally posted by Cleft Crusty

                      Yes, but you have to come to grips with the fact that Chicago is the better team, because of it's defense.
                      The fact that the Packers are 4-1 and the Bears are 2-3 would seem to contradict your "fact" that Chicago is the better team.


                      So the team with the best record is always the better team? Not so fast my friend as Lee Corso would say. I'm not saying the Bears are better either, just that a two game lead early in the year is hardly a definitive statement.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        Originally posted by esoxx
                        Originally posted by Cleft Crusty

                        Yes, but you have to come to grips with the fact that Chicago is the better team, because of it's defense.
                        The fact that the Packers are 4-1 and the Bears are 2-3 would seem to contradict your "fact" that Chicago is the better team.


                        So the team with the best record is always the better team? Not so fast my friend as Lee Corso would say. I'm not saying the Bears are better either, just that a two game lead early in the year is hardly a definitive statement.
                        Its like in the UFC, it is the guy who is the better fighter that night, The Bears played an overall better football game than the Packers. That is the only truth about last nights game.

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                        • #42
                          Who's better then whom... who won the last 4 meetings at your house, who cares ! Who won last night is all that matters !
                          NFCN Champs 2005 & 2006, NFC Champs 2006

                          "Some people go though life wondering if they have made a difference, ... Marines do not have that problem." - Ronald Regan

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BEARMAN
                            Who's better then whom... who won the last 4 meetings at your house, who cares ! Who won last night is all that matters !


                            You just wait until next week BEARMAN......the Vikes will open a family size can of whoopass on your ass to the tune of 6-3. Wait until you see the kickass offense! You think the Packers were tough?


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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Rastak
                              Originally posted by BEARMAN
                              Who's better then whom... who won the last 4 meetings at your house, who cares ! Who won last night is all that matters !


                              You just wait until next week BEARMAN......the Vikes will open a family size can of whoopass on your ass to the tune of 6-3. Wait until you see the kickass offense! You think the Packers were tough?



                              Twice yearly I root for the Vikings.

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                              • #45
                                Adrian Peterson has a chance to cause the Bears real problems...if Childress sticks with him in the second half.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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