Two Minute Drill - Clock Management

[Scott Campbell]

Horrific.

Morency, get out of bounds for cripes sake.

Brett, a 7 yard dump off over the middle does us virtually no good. Throw it away when we have more downs than time.

[Harlan Huckleby]

the two minute offense was dreadful tonight.

but I've often thought Favre wasted too much time on 2-minute drills.

I have a hunch that there is a big disconnect between being a player on the field and being a fan. The defense takes away the plays that we want the offense to run. But, that said, it's better to throw the ball out of bounds and give-up a down than burn 20 seconds to gain 8 yards.

[Noodle]

I have to agree with this. I know the CW used to be that nobody runs a two minute drill like Favre, but there's something out of sync lately. It takes a long time to get the play off, the play is commonly a dump off to a back with the hope that he gets out of bounds, and we just seem to burn a lot of time without doing much.

When was the last time you saw a receiver in a two-minute drill dragging his two at the sideline on a deep out?

[Bretsky]

It looked sick; they looked unprepared for the real two minute drill.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Could Spitz have held the ball any longer?

Gotta get that thing back to the QB if you want a chance to score.

[Patler]

Could Spitz have held the ball any longer?

Gotta get that thing back to the QB if you want a chance to score.

Huh??? How is it Spitz' fault?

[Zool]

Rewatch the game. Favre would stomp his foot and Spitz was not looking. Favre would stomp again and Spitz might have been looking. A 3rd stomp was often neccessary. They were going on silent.

[Sparkey]

It appeared to me, the line did not play as well when Spitz went in at center. To be expected I guess. Wells, very rarely, has help inside blocking. It seemed Spitz was receiving more assistance on doubles, which caused some problems along the rest of the line.

Credit the Bears however. They did a better job of putting pressure on Favre in the 2nd half.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Could Spitz have held the ball any longer?

Gotta get that thing back to the QB if you want a chance to score.

Huh??? How is it Spitz' fault?

Like Zool said, Favre was stomping his foot to get Spitz to snap the ball. Spitz was holding onto the thing for 5 seconds while everyone was waiting for him. He did this time and time again. Add up 5 plays that's 25 seconds they didn't have to waste. Snaps should have came a lot quicker and there could have easily been 2 more plays just on that alone.

He simply wasn't ready for the 2 minute drill.

[Patler]

Like Zool said, Favre was stomping his foot to get Spitz to snap the ball. Spitz was holding onto the thing for 5 seconds while everyone was waiting for him. He did this time and time again.

If it is was a simple as that, with Spitz supposed to snap the first time Favre stomped his foot, it would be a huge advantage for the defense knowing exactly when the ball would be snapped. Think of the advantage for a blitzer.

The snap count is more complicated than that. Foot stomps can be indicators to start players in motion, or can be simple deceptions. They can be snap designators, but it might be the 2nd or 3rd one, not always the first.

If Spitz was delaying the snap time and time again, there would have been false starts time and time again, because the rest of the offense would have fired out of their stances expecting that the ball would be snapped when the snap designator was reached.

[Zool]

In the silent count, they go off the snap. They dont have everyone looking for the footstomp. There's no way he could have communicated a 2 or 3 stomp call in the hurry up. Stomp and go.

[cpk1994]

I didn't have a problem withe 2-minute drill itseld What I had a problem with realting to that was that the pack would have had one extras timeout if MM had not made the bonehead decision to challenge a spot. You don't gamble a timeout over 6 feet. That timeout could have yieded 2 more plays before Favre would have to heave in the endzone. Simply a stupid bonehead challenge. It was Shermanesque.

[cheesner]

Like Zool said, Favre was stomping his foot to get Spitz to snap the ball. Spitz was holding onto the thing for 5 seconds while everyone was waiting for him. He did this time and time again.

If it is was a simple as that, with Spitz supposed to snap the first time Favre stomped his foot, it would be a huge advantage for the defense knowing exactly when the ball would be snapped. Think of the advantage for a blitzer.

The snap count is more complicated than that. Foot stomps can be indicators to start players in motion, or can be simple deceptions. They can be snap designators, but it might be the 2nd or 3rd one, not always the first.

If Spitz was delaying the snap time and time again, there would have been false starts time and time again, because the rest of the offense would have fired out of their stances expecting that the ball would be snapped when the snap designator was reached.

Not to mention that it would have been mentioned to Spitz after the first time. I think he is bright enough to correct it if it was pointed out to him.

This is all on Brett - he was walking with no indication of haste or hurry in him. His attitude indicated no need to hurry between plays. Just hurrying between plays would have saved us 20 sec easy - time for another play.

This could be a MM issue, perhaps the 2 min drill was not as layed out as it should be.

[The Shadow]

No sense of urgency,

[Badgepack]

Driver damn near came down with that ball.