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  • #16
    The Wells injury hampered this area dramaticly.
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    • #17
      The Cover 2 took away the sideline passing game and Favre was just trying to move the chains. You don't go know where unless you get first downs.

      Some of you have to remember that Spitz is now responsible for the line calls at the LOS, he has to get things adjusted, and that would most likely take more time for Spitz than for Wells.

      I think it is a bit funny how Favre drove them to the end of the half field goal with less than a minute 30, but you are all questioning his ability to run the 2 minute drill.

      Maybe Driver goes up and gets the ball at the highest point, because the pass was there to be caught, but Driver didn't come up to get it, the defender got to the ball first. Picky, but so are the rest of you.

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      • #18
        Nobody made a play with the ball in their hand, Morency could have gone out of bounds, but cut back for yards, nobody made a catch and then broke for more yardage down the sideline.

        Most importantly is that everyone still lines up right and runs the right play, Favre didn't get sacked, and up until the last play the ball was being moved down the field.

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        • #19
          1) That's the worst 2-minute drill I've seen from us in a long, long time. Pathetic.
          2) I think anybody who thinks Favre isn't normally exceptional in the 2-minute drill is a nutjob. (Well, that's a little strong, but he's normally as good as anybody at the end of halfs or games.)

          I had no problem with the passes, but all of the time it took once guys were set was horrible. The triple leg pump in a 2-minute drill? WTF!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            1) That's the worst 2-minute drill I've seen from us in a long, long time. Pathetic.
            2) I think anybody who thinks Favre isn't normally exceptional in the 2-minute drill is a nutjob. (Well, that's a little strong, but he's normally as good as anybody at the end of halfs or games.)

            I had no problem with the passes, but all of the time it took once guys were set was horrible. The triple leg pump in a 2-minute drill? WTF!

            Had Jones (I think it was him), caught the ball before the hail mary pass, could the Pack even run another play? They had 8 seconds to run down and spike. They still alomost pulled it off, that jump ball was almost a tie which goes to the offense.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              The Cover 2 took away the sideline passing game and Favre was just trying to move the chains. You don't go know where unless you get first downs.
              hog warsh. IF I were a Bears fan, I would be pumping my fist in the air in triumph every time Favre completed a 7 yard pass underneath. 7 yards is less valuable than 20 seconds.

              They didn't need first downs, they needed big chunks of yardage in that situation. Otherwise they would be stuck close to midfield with few and far opportunities at the endzone. Which is what happened.

              IF they were driving for a field goal, maybe there was time to methodically move down the field. It was a desperate situation, and they didn't act like it.

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              • #22
                This from MM's press conference:

                If Wells had been at center in the 2-minute drill at the end, would the snaps have come quicker?
                Our mechanics as far as the time for the snaps was not where it needed to be. The communication as far as the set-up, we actually did take a lot more time than you would have liked. I'd like to think we could have had another opportunity or two. We were not as crisp as we've been there.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                  The Cover 2 took away the sideline passing game and Favre was just trying to move the chains. You don't go no where unless you get first downs.
                  hog warsh. IF I were a Bears fan, I would be pumping my fist in the air in triumph every time Favre completed a 7 yard pass underneath. 7 yards is less valuable than 20 seconds.

                  They didn't need first downs, they needed big chunks of yardage in that situation. Otherwise they would be stuck close to midfield with few and far opportunities at the endzone. Which is what happened.

                  IF they were driving for a field goal, maybe there was time to methodically move down the field. It was a desperate situation, and they didn't act like it.
                  Then Favre throws the ball into double coverage because he feels pressure to make a play down field when there wasn't one and it gets picked. He at the very least gave this team a chance to make plays in the two minute drill.

                  In some cases those 7 yard passes turn into twenty yard gains, but unfortunately they didn't turn out that way.

                  Here is a better solution Favre throws the ball away four straight times instead of going underneath because no one was open down field!

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                  • #24
                    they might try a screen play after sending several wide recievers deep.

                    It's hard to turn 7 yard slant into 15 yards when the linebackers are deep and playing contain. In fact, forget short slants.

                    the options are limitted, better to take chance than slowly commit suicide.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      they might try a screen play after sending several wide recievers deep.

                      It's hard to turn 7 yard slant into 15 yards when the linebackers are deep and playing contain. In fact, forget short slants.

                      the options are limitted, better to take chance than slowly commit suicide.
                      I didn't see our screen game work very well the longer the game went.

                      Point number two, Favre throws a pick in coverage and then everyone is bitching about Favre taking chances and costing this team a victory, he took what was available, bottom line.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        I didn't see our screen game work very well the longer the game went.
                        easy to set it up in this situation, linebackers are way back. Just a bit better than slant because you got some blockers.


                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Point number two, Favre throws a pick in coverage and then everyone is bitching about Favre taking chances and costing this team a victory, he took what was available, bottom line.
                        Better to go down swinging. bitching be damned.

                        bottom line: time ran out by taking what was available.

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                        • #27
                          I really don't understand why we lost the timeout on the challenge. If you challenge the spot and they change the spot you won, regardless of the firstdown or not. The Bills challenged the spot tonight the ball was moved it was still a first down for the girls, but the Bill retained the timeout! If it was wording semantics, that is ridiculous!

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                          • #28
                            You challenge the result of the spot AND the spot of the ball.

                            They were right on the spot of the ball. They corrected it, but the Bears still had a first down.

                            Thus, since the result of the play was a still a first down, they lost the challenge.

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                            • #29
                              Like I said the Bill did the same thing tonight and didn't lose the timeout! Why the difference?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by LEWCWA
                                Like I said the Bill did the same thing tonight and didn't lose the timeout! Why the difference?
                                I didn't read the rest of your post. I don't know why, then. Weird.

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