Favre Regresses to Bonehead Passes Again

[oregonpackfan]

Except for the poor decision in throwing the interception against the Chicago Bears, Favre has displayed excellent decision-making in the types of passes he has thrown in the first 5 games. His decision-making with regard to passing is a huge factor in the Packers success this year.

This leads me to the disappointment in Favre I saw in today's game. There were several times he threw the ball downfield is a desperation type of bonehead play. A number of those long passes were underthrown. Two of them were intercepted and a third should have been intercepted.

I trust McCarthy will confront Brett about those passes. Brett has been very accurate with his short and mid-range passing. I would like to see him stick within that range.

[Lurker64]

From what I saw, on a few of those Favre deep balls, the receiver was running free and had Favre not underthrown the ball, we would have had a long completion if not a touchdown. It's troubling that he was missing though. I saw more of a "failure in execution" than "a mental error."

[Jimx29]

Re: Favre Regresses to Bonehead Passes Again

Except for the poor decision in throwing the interception against the Chicago Bears, Favre has displayed excellent decision-making in the types of passes he has thrown in the first 5 games. His decision-making with regard to passing is a huge factor in the Packers success this year.

This leads me to the disappointment in Favre I saw in today's game. There were several times he threw the ball downfield is a desperation type of bonehead play. A number of those long passes were underthrown. Two of them were intercepted and a third should have been intercepted.

I trust McCarthy will confront Brett about those passes. Brett has been very accurate with his short and mid-range passing. I would like to see him stick within that range.

I really don't see a need to ever go way downfield unless their is absolutely no choice in the matter. The short route dink and dunks, along with the crossing patterns are much to Bretts advantage

[Patler]

I think those were part of the game plan. McCarthy indicated they thought there would be openings on deep passes, and there were. On both interceptions, the receiver was open, the ball was either late or underthrown, and the safety made great plays on both.

Sometimes its not what you "need" to do in a given situation, its what the defense makes available to you. Both interceptions could have been completed with earlier or better passes.

I don't look at either as bad decisions. Poor execution, maybe.

[Little Whiskey]

on the two picks...(I'm tring to recal the near int.) is a throw any qb would have taken. the WR was wide open. the ball hung up a bit and was under thrown. those should have been long completions. their safety made up a bunch of ground to come up with the pick.

[Badgepack]

On both of the picks, the WR needs to turn into a defensive back and knock that ball down, something our receivers seem to have a hard time with.

The Packers need to chuck the longball every now and again so the defense can't just sit on the short stuff.

[3irty1]

I think the Issue is more the timing than the under thrown part. Favre should have hit those guys earlier.

[superfan]

The receivers were definitely open earlier on the two Taylor picks. Looked to me like the ball took a long time to get there - almost like Favre was throwing high touch passes instead of rifling the ball out there. I disagree that those were poor decisions. I either didn't see or don't remember the near interceptions.

Lob pass + no help from the receiver + nice play by Taylor = INT x 2

[FritzDontBlitz]

Re: Favre Regresses to Bonehead Passes Again

Except for the poor decision in throwing the interception against the Chicago Bears, Favre has displayed excellent decision-making in the types of passes he has thrown in the first 5 games. His decision-making with regard to passing is a huge factor in the Packers success this year.

This leads me to the disappointment in Favre I saw in today's game. There were several times he threw the ball downfield is a desperation type of bonehead play. A number of those long passes were underthrown. Two of them were intercepted and a third should have been intercepted.

I trust McCarthy will confront Brett about those passes. Brett has been very accurate with his short and mid-range passing. I would like to see him stick within that range.

you're right. brett favre has lost it. he should retire.

dumbass.

[Patler]

This could however bring up another concern.

The last two full seasons (2005 & 2006) Favre has seemed to start strong and finish somewhat erratic, with more TDs early than late in the season, and less consistency in his throws. My concern is that he wears out physically, especially since he has thrown more passes in each of the last two seasons than during any other season in his career. The drop backs, throws and hits can take their toll in his ability to perform over the long season, at his "ancient" age.

This year he is on pace to exceed his attempts the last two season by quite a bit. Can he hold up for the season?

[HarveyWallbangers]

The last two full seasons (2005 & 2006) Favre has seemed to start strong and finish somewhat erratic

I've noticed that also, but I'm hoping being in a playoff race will change that. We were 4-8 last year. Somehow managed to reel off 4 straight to give ourselves an outside shot at the playoffs. To me, 2005 was an aberration. Top 3 RBs injured, 2 of the top 3 WRs, top TE, horrible interior OL play.

[cpk1994]

This could however bring up another concern.

The last two full seasons (2005 & 2006) Favre has seemed to start strong and finish somewhat erratic, with more TDs early than late in the season, and less consistency in his throws. My concern is that he wears out physically, especially since he has thrown more passes in each of the last two seasons than during any other season in his career. The drop backs, throws and hits can take their toll in his ability to perform over the long season, at his "ancient" age.

This year he is on pace to exceed his attempts the last two season by quite a bit. Can he hold up for the season?

BUt on the other hand, he isn't throwing as many deep balls as he was in 2005.

[Noodle]

Excellent points Harv and Patler.

Look, the book on the Pack is going to be clear -- get to Favre and whack him, early and often. That, coupled with the normal effects of age, are going to start showing up big.

The smart thing to do is to keep Favre out of situations where he has to make deep, downfield throws, because (1) those are the times he's most vulnerable to getting hit and (2) those are the throws he's most likely to miss.

The last 6 or 8 games of last year were staggeringly bad for Favre. His QB rating didn't go much beyond 60 in that stretch. MM needs to keep him out of situations where he can get himself and his team hurt.

And maybe, just maybe, it's time to give A-Rod two or three series/game. Tell me one good reason why not. It'll be good for the kid and it'll be good for the hyper-competitive Favre.

And I call a HALT to any crap about receivers not breaking up picks. The Pack receivers are all-out warriors and put it on the line for this team. They did what they could with absurdly underthrown (and late) balls. Favre's picks today were on him alone. Not the receiver.

[cpk1994]

Excellent points Harv and Patler.

Look, the book on the Pack is going to be clear -- get to Favre and whack him, early and often. That, coupled with the normal effects of age, are going to start showing up big.

The smart thing to do is to keep Favre out of situations where he has to make deep, downfield throws, because (1) those are the times he's most vulnerable to getting hit and (2) those are the throws he's most likely to miss.

The last 6 or 8 games of last year were staggeringly bad for Favre. His QB rating didn't go much beyond 60 in that stretch. MM needs to keep him out of situations where he can get himself and his team hurt.

And maybe, just maybe, it's time to give A-Rod two or three series/game. Tell me one good reason why not. It'll be good for the kid and it'll be good for the hyper-competitive Favre.

And I call a HALT to any crap about receivers not breaking up picks. The Pack receivers are all-out warriors and put it on the line for this team. They did what they could with absurdly underthrown (and late) balls. Favre's picks today were on him alone. Not the receiver.

This suggestion always comes up and it is as stupid now as the forst time it was brought up. The team is 5-1 with Favre as he is and throwing Rodgers in there for 2-3 series will wreck any rythm the offense has. With all the young skill guys it would be suicide to do so. IF throwing in the backup for 2-3 series is such a good idea, wehy hasn't one coach in the histroy of the NFL ever done that?

[Noodle]

No, the team is not 5-1 as Favre was today. It is 5-1 as Favre was in weeks 2-5.

If you've got Manning or Brady, then you're right, you don't change things up. But we don't. We have a guy at the end of his career who has shown that he trends badly toward the end of the year. Have you looked at his year-end stats? Is that what you want?

Are you saying that our receivers are so un-professional that they can't adjust to A-Rod for a couple of series? That Wynn will have his development slowed because he's getting the ball from A-Rod instead of Favre? That our first-round draft pick is incapable after years in the league of handling 8-10 snaps a game?

Sure, I may be stupid. But one thing I know is that banging your head against the wall and ignoring history is not a solid long-term strategy. Even if everyone else is doing it.