Expiring Contracts and Guys Packers Need to Re-sign

[Patler]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

[RashanGary]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

He's 38. I just wonder how long the guy can play. I could be wrong, but there is something uneasy about relying on a 38 year old in a violent game like football.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Atari Bigby, Ryan Grant, and some of the other young players listed in the original post aren't UFAs after this season, are they? I didn't think they had enough years of service in the NFL to be UFAs.

[Joemailman]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

He's 38. I just wonder how long the guy can play. I could be wrong, but there is something uneasy about relying on a 38 year old in a violent game like football.

Justin Harrell, meet Brett Favre.

[Joemailman]

Atari Bigby, Ryan Grant, and some of the other young players listed in the original post aren't UFAs after this season, are they? I didn't think they had enough years of service in the NFL to be UFAs.

I'm pretty sure you're right, although I'm not sure of the details regarding what happens if somebody else makes Bigby an offer. Where's Patler?


By the way, for anyone needing salary cap information:

http://www.packerchatters.com/team_info/salary_cap/

[vince]

Many of these young guys aren't unrestricted, but their contracts expire at the end of this year, so some decision needs to be made on each of them.

I'm not saying I'm advocating getting rid of the guys at the bottom. I'm just saying that I don't think they're terribly strategic components... I hope we re-sign a number of them, but they'll be able to be signed cheaply - if at all...

RG, Bigby must be re-upped after this year or he'll be let go. His contract expires. Your exaggeration of my opinion on Bigby by insinuating that I'd advocate resigning Marques Anderson for 15 years is not only ridiculously wrong, it's implication to my intelligence is extremely offensive.

The fact that a moderator would use such disparaging tactics through exaggeration, sarcasm and simply pulling shit out of your ass about another is a joke.

[Bretsky]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

He's 38. I just wonder how long the guy can play. I could be wrong, but there is something uneasy about relying on a 38 year old in a violent game like football.

He's a long snapper, and still one of the best in the game; he's one of the few guys in the NFL who can consistently snap the laces where he wants most of the time. Some interesting past articles on him.

I could see him playing four more years.

[Patler]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

He's 38. I just wonder how long the guy can play. I could be wrong, but there is something uneasy about relying on a 38 year old in a violent game like football.

He's a long snapper, and still one of the best in the game; he's one of the few guys in the NFL who can consistently snap the laces where he wants most of the time. Some interesting past articles on him.

I could see him playing four more years.

That, and they say his time in getting the ball back to the punter is still among the best. Supposedly he has one of the fastest times to the punter ever clocked. He's sort of the Brett Favre of long snappers!

[retailguy]

Many of these young guys aren't unrestricted, but their contracts expire at the end of this year, so some decision needs to be made on each of them.

I'm not saying I'm advocating getting rid of the guys at the bottom. I'm just saying that I don't think they're terribly strategic components... I hope we re-sign a number of them, but they'll be able to be signed cheaply - if at all...

RG, Bigby must be re-upped after this year or he'll be let go. His contract expires. Your exaggeration of my opinion on Bigby by insinuating that I'd advocate resigning Marques Anderson for 15 years is not only ridiculously wrong, it's implication to my intelligence is extremely offensive.

The fact that a moderator would use such disparaging tactics through exaggeration, sarcasm and simply pulling shit out of your ass about another is a joke.

Good one. You lost the "moral" right to complain after that hack job on Packnut a while back. Right back at ya.... If you can dish it, you can take it. Quit whining.

Bigby will undoubtedly be addressed at some point, but hey, lets just see how the season goes... kind of like Ted typically does, huh?

[vince]

OK RG. Works for me. My response to Packnut was a result of his initiating the attack. His "in your face" personal attacks on me and anyone who disagreed with his impulsive conclusions could only be dealt with one way. And unlike you, I responded with absolute facts about his posts - nothing less.

If you want to initiate that kind of banter between us by spewing lies, idiocy and sarcastic twists of logic, then that's your choice. You take board moderation to new lows RG.

[Bretsky]

Why do you want to replace Robb Davis???

He's 38. I just wonder how long the guy can play. I could be wrong, but there is something uneasy about relying on a 38 year old in a violent game like football.

He's a long snapper, and still one of the best in the game; he's one of the few guys in the NFL who can consistently snap the laces where he wants most of the time. Some interesting past articles on him.

I could see him playing four more years.

That, and they say his time in getting the ball back to the punter is still among the best. Supposedly he has one of the fastest times to the punter ever clocked. He's sort of the Brett Favre of long snappers!

Yes, we are lucky to have the guy. He never gets noticed; that's the best thing to say about snappers

[Patler]

One of the more interesting articles I read about him stated that since becoming a pro, he has never made a snap in practice without his shoulder pads on. He refuses to, because he doesn't ever want to alter the way he snaps at all, and he said his arm motion might be different without shoulder pads. He doesn't want to even experience what it might be like. When the rest of the team practices without pads, if they go to FGs or punts he puts his shoulder pads on.

That is a professional dedicated to his performance.

[retailguy]

OK RG. Works for me. My response to Packnut was a result of his initiating the attack. His "in your face" personal attacks on me and anyone who disagreed with his impulsive conclusions could only be dealt with one way. And unlike you, I responded with absolute facts about his posts - nothing less.

If you want to initiate that kind of banter between us by spewing lies, idiocy and sarcastic twists of logic, then that's your choice. You take board moderation to new lows RG.

What a joke. You really cannot see it can you? I thought you were just an ego maniac. I guess I was wrong. You're really clueless.

You talk about facts and it just slays me. They are only facts IF you adopt your belief system and opinions.

Explain this to me, o wise one - Why is it that when I talk about what I believe, I'm intolerant, unreasonable, and bring the board to new lows, and when you talk about what you believe, you are just "right"? Perhaps you should look at yourself for just a brief moment. You said earlier that you were "offended" by what I said. Why don't you PM Packnut and ask him what he thinks/feels about what you said? Maybe if you used the same rules to to others that you use for yourself, you'll find out that you are just as big of a hypocrite as those you engage with.

Now that you've established why I'm so unreasonable and intolerant, why don't you go back to the original point I made - tell me WHY after six games, Bigby should be the "most important" priority for resigning, and that it is "unreasonable" to wait longer than 6 games? If you can't handle me poking fun at your enthusiasm to "lock up" a guy who has had 6 good (not great) games, then overlook that I guess. You make it sound like he's the next coming of Christ, when in reality, he just replaced a boneheaded idiot who didn't play like he deserved to be on an NFL roster. Bigby is OK, but there is better, and I happen to believe more deserving players on the Packers for an extension/resigning.

I think my comparison to Marcus Anderson is spot on. That guy played lights out his rookie season and was an abject disaster after that. If you can't see that and look past an exaggeration, then friend, you've got other issues. Perhaps you should look at them, instead of preaching to me how I should act, talk and believe.

[retailguy]

As to the mod duties - you ought to see that you refuted your own point however I guess you're not that bright. Your assumption that my "job" is to get along with you and others is shortsighted. I have no agreement/expectation with MTP or ANYONE that I have to "bury" or "overlook" how I feel. Should I? Some say so, and some say no. Whatever.

You have no clue what we do here, and why we do it. Quite honestly, why I am a mod, and why I stay one, is because I don't want to read "viagra" ads everytime I turn around. That's my focus and always has been.

There has been what?, 2 people banned permanently since we've been here. It's not a focus. Me getting along with you, IS NOT A FOCUS. Me being "NICE" to you, IS NOT A FOCUS. Keeping spam out of here, keeping stuff in the correct forum so it's organized, and assisting MTP in keeping this thing up and running is what we all do.

you want to judge me? Fine. Go right ahead. Throwing my mod "duties" in my face just proves you are either stupid or desperate. It's just another "duck" and "dodge" vince.

Quite honestly, you aren't deserving of either the avatar or the name. The real vince is quite probably rolling over in his grave, that such an unarmed communicator is impersonating him.

[Guiness]

One of the more interesting articles I read about him stated that since becoming a pro, he has never made a snap in practice without his shoulder pads on. He refuses to, because he doesn't ever want to alter the way he snaps at all, and he said his arm motion might be different without shoulder pads. He doesn't want to even experience what it might be like. When the rest of the team practices without pads, if they go to FGs or punts he puts his shoulder pads on.

That is a professional dedicated to his performance.

He certainly is the consumate pro, and someone for the kids to look to for and example of how to behave. Plus, he's one of the two man Canadian contingent on the Pack!

Whenever his name comes up in a 'why do we have him' discussion, I have to post the link http://www.longsnap.com/

I'm guessing he has 'lost a step' though. For a couple of years he lead the team in ST tackles, and he doesn't anymore. I guess he doesn't get down the field as quickly?

Any idea who our backup LS is?