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Nutz, I agree we need to give him his props. It is a great article. And I've been preaching all along that we need to take some of this great content we create in the forums and turn it into articles for the core site.
BUT...we do need to be careful. There's a reason some content is confined to the Romper Room. I respect you and I respect the Nutz & Boltz show and everything it stands for. It is very entertaining. No Mo is truly not to be criticized for the vulgarities in his article, as we don't really have any standards yet. As he said, it was written to the "forum audience". It has brought up great points though, with regards to how forum-to-web articles should be edited before they're posted.
How about we take this approach? If this place is good enough, maybe our content writers could be reproduced elsewhere, as KFFL writers are reproduced on this site. Wouldn't that be cool? That, at some point, we've got enough editorial and creative integrity that our articles could be reposted elsewhere? What a credit to our site if that could happen.
tylerReceive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
"Paradise Lost"-John Milton
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the guy with the avatar of a homicidal housecat wielding an automatic weapon steps up to be the voice of reason. duh.Originally posted by SparkeyIf the goal of this website is to be considered the place to gather for packer info and discussion, then I have to voice my complaints with this editorial.
The article is as bad as some of the stuff ESPN puts on their website. The obvious personality bashing aside, since when does throwing an f-bomb in an article make it worthy of reading.
For discussion threads, fine, leave it full throttle, wide open talk and back and forth. BUT a so called website exclusive article SHOULD NOT HAVE a comment like "Wow, dude some advice from Fran Foley, fucking lie on your resume." in the article or "Have you ever listened to anyone more convinced that the shit coming out of his or her mouth was correct?"
Unless you want to be labeled another one of those websites that lets any idiot blather on about anything, their should be some modicum of decency in the articles.
i think there are too many guys here already who take themselves too fucking serious - you know, kinda like the fucking yahoos on espn do.
moss, i thought the article was a tongue-in-cheek rant intended to poke fun at a network that, rather than objectively reporting on the sports news, thinks THEY are the story. after the atrocious farce they broadcast thrioughout draft weekend, i for one don't blame you for wanting to take a swipe at them - i thought it was very norman chad-like effort on your part. (for those scoring at home, norman chad is the well known sports columnist who mocked espn's draft day coverage in a similar fashion - albeit without the colorful metaphors mossy chose to add.)
lighten up, guys. we ain't debating nuclear disarmament here. its just fucking sports.....Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.
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tyler can you explain this a little more. I think I like the idea but I'm not sure I understand.Originally posted by jacks smirking revengeNutz, I agree we need to give him his props. It is a great article. And I've been preaching all along that we need to take some of this great content we create in the forums and turn it into articles for the core site.
BUT...we do need to be careful. There's a reason some content is confined to the Romper Room. I respect you and I respect the Nutz & Boltz show and everything it stands for. It is very entertaining. No Mo is truly not to be criticized for the vulgarities in his article, as we don't really have any standards yet. As he said, it was written to the "forum audience". It has brought up great points though, with regards to how forum-to-web articles should be edited before they're posted.
How about we take this approach? If this place is good enough, maybe our content writers could be reproduced elsewhere, as KFFL writers are reproduced on this site. Wouldn't that be cool? That, at some point, we've got enough editorial and creative integrity that our articles could be reposted elsewhere? What a credit to our site if that could happen.
tyler
Wouldn't we need to use our real identities then? I guess I'm fine with that but just elaborate on your idea."For a fan base that so gratefully took to success, it bothers me how easily some fans are resigned to failure."
No Mo Moss 9.14.06

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No Mo, you've brought up a very good point. It's kind of a grey area. What I've proposed are PR Icons--people who are recognizable content providers for this site. In our digital world, I don't know that you necessarily need to have your "real identity" tagged to a creation. Case in point, all of my writings are done under a pseudonym (for various reasons). I think once this site is rolling on a regular basis with known, trusted, and reliable content providers, then an alias would work just as well. Perhaps part of the fun of our site is that we do have unique identities that mask who we really are, but we pump out content that's equally as cool as anything that's out there.Originally posted by No Mo Mosstyler can you explain this a little more. I think I like the idea but I'm not sure I understand.Originally posted by jacks smirking revengeNutz, I agree we need to give him his props. It is a great article. And I've been preaching all along that we need to take some of this great content we create in the forums and turn it into articles for the core site.
BUT...we do need to be careful. There's a reason some content is confined to the Romper Room. I respect you and I respect the Nutz & Boltz show and everything it stands for. It is very entertaining. No Mo is truly not to be criticized for the vulgarities in his article, as we don't really have any standards yet. As he said, it was written to the "forum audience". It has brought up great points though, with regards to how forum-to-web articles should be edited before they're posted.
How about we take this approach? If this place is good enough, maybe our content writers could be reproduced elsewhere, as KFFL writers are reproduced on this site. Wouldn't that be cool? That, at some point, we've got enough editorial and creative integrity that our articles could be reposted elsewhere? What a credit to our site if that could happen.
tyler
Wouldn't we need to use our real identities then? I guess I'm fine with that but just elaborate on your idea.
This brings up another point that we should put a disclaimer (if one doesn't already exist) on the core site that states that all content is the property of the originator and of Packer Rats. All rights reserved, etc.
I hope I'm making sense. Let me know if I'm not.
tylerReceive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
"Paradise Lost"-John Milton
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Very good, No Mo.
Michael Smith is a cutie, and was one of my faves - but I think he is tired of the eye-rolling arguments with Jay Mariotti, so his is stretching his friendship with J-Walk a little too tightly.
Personally, as I've not been shy about stating, I hold nothing against Javon and his contentions. But it's soooo a non-story - M. Smith and the ESPN machine would have us believe otherwise, I suppose.
Keep up the critique, though.
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.NoMoMoss: Berman is a total Packer fan, and a fan of the NFC Norse as he calls it. Although that nickname isn’t all that flattering, Berman seems to be the one person who is legitimate.
NMM, you should be happy to learn, since you like Chris Berman (as do I), that he does not refer to the North Division as the "Norse" Division but the "Norris" Division as in NHL hockey. So the one blemish on his Packer love can now be safely removed. Enjoyed reading your analysis of ESPN.
--CSMTO--CSMTO
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