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  • #16
    Whoever said that the equipment guy was changing Wynn's number to #89 was spot on. Wynn is to RBs what Ferguson is to WRs. In terms of physical talent, he looks good. Occasionally, he'll do something that makes you think he can play in this league.

    In reality, the player doesn't have the heart or the durability to be a factor at the pro level. I think Green Bay will be happy to give Wynn one more chance in camp next year, but I doubt he sticks long-term.
    My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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    • #17
      boo lame double post.

      HOORAY BEER!!!
      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SkinBasket
        Just can't let it rest for a week (after another win), can you woodsie?

        Maybe TT injured Wynn himself in a ploy directly tied to the plot to make Favre retire.
        No, he can't. SInce TT has been shving his foot down Woodys throat this year he is desperate to try and find anything to bash TT with. And a message for Woody: 6-1 without your boy Moss.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler
          Regardless of what MM and TT have said the last two days, I think Wynn has played his last regular season game for Green Bay. I do not think he will be on the roster next season.
          When the PAckers are done with a player they don't put them on IR, they do an injury settlement and say, "thank you for your service."

          The only evidence that people have given that Wynn is a bad egg are quotes from college. <snore> I have a news flash for you: people often change a lot between the ages of 18 and 25. It is well worth a 7th round pick to see what this talented guy can do, you just have to keep an open mind and hope for the best. But a lot of people in this forum aren't willing to do that, its more fun to label somebody a jerk, and spin everything that direction so you feel justified in your set, smug position.

          IT would be fascinating to interview Edgar Bennett under the bright lights. I have a hunch that Bennett thinks he can keep this guy on track. They wouldn't have made him #1 if they didn't have some confidence in him. GRant and Jackson were in the wings, 100% healthy, 100% familar with the plays.

          I will be very happy to see what Bennett can do working with Wynn next year.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Originally posted by Patler
            Regardless of what MM and TT have said the last two days, I think Wynn has played his last regular season game for Green Bay. I do not think he will be on the roster next season.
            When the PAckers are done with a player they don't put them on IR, they do an injury settlement and say, "thank you for your service."

            The only evidence that people have given that Wynn is a bad egg are quotes from college. <snore> I have a news flash for you: people often change a lot between the ages of 18 and 25. It is well worth a 7th round pick to see what this talented guy can do, you just have to keep an open mind and hope for the best. But a lot of people in this forum aren't willing to do that, its more fun to label somebody a jerk, and spin everything that direction so you feel justified in your set, smug position.

            IT would be fascinating to interview Edgar Bennett under the bright lights. I have a hunch that Bennett thinks he can keep this guy on track. They wouldn't have made him #1 if they didn't have some confidence in him. GRant and Jackson were in the wings, 100% healthy, 100% familar with the plays.

            I will be very happy to see what Bennett can do working with Wynn next year.
            I'm sure it's frustrating for everyone. The coaching staff hoping that Wynn's natural talent could come to the forefront and that he could reach his potential. At some point the coaching staff just needs a consistent back, and one who is not dealing with nagging injuries. It must be frustrating for Wynn when this is all you know and you have a chance right in front of you and it falls apart. I'm sure he didn't want injuries, but there they were. It's frustrating for the fans because you hope a guy isn't faking his injuries and will do anything he can to get on the field and show toughness. Perhaps it's as simple as his shoulder really is wonky and it's never been great and he's been trying to get around it and finally could not.
            "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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            • #21
              Ferguson may have been fragile, but he broke his leg a couple of times, tore up his knee, got his head taken off.... Real injuries, with this guy Wynn, I am not real sure how tough he is, wait, I know how tough he is, he is a pussy.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                I know how tough he is, he is a pussy.
                How do you know? BRandon Jackson was down for a couple weeks recently, didn't see any dangling limbs. Is Jackson a pussy? Grant started the season gimpy - is he a pussy?

                What do you know about Wynn's shoulder injury?

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                • #23
                  Another losing argument for Harlan. Do me a favor: go back and list all of the various ailments that Wynn has had since joining the Packers. You want others to list them. Go do the research yourself.

                  It's pretty obvious there is a pattern here--especially after "being soft" was a criticism of him coming out of a college. A couple of injuries can be expected, but this guy IS soft.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #24
                    he might be fragile. the other injury he had in regular season was cramps.

                    I thought that might be due to poor conditioning, but patler insists it was dehydration.

                    I can believe he needs better conditioning.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Originally posted by Patler
                      Regardless of what MM and TT have said the last two days, I think Wynn has played his last regular season game for Green Bay. I do not think he will be on the roster next season.
                      When the PAckers are done with a player they don't put them on IR, they do an injury settlement and say, "thank you for your service."

                      The only evidence that people have given that Wynn is a bad egg are quotes from college. <snore> I have a news flash for you: people often change a lot between the ages of 18 and 25. It is well worth a 7th round pick to see what this talented guy can do, you just have to keep an open mind and hope for the best. But a lot of people in this forum aren't willing to do that, its more fun to label somebody a jerk, and spin everything that direction so you feel justified in your set, smug position.

                      IT would be fascinating to interview Edgar Bennett under the bright lights. I have a hunch that Bennett thinks he can keep this guy on track. They wouldn't have made him #1 if they didn't have some confidence in him. GRant and Jackson were in the wings, 100% healthy, 100% familar with the plays.

                      I will be very happy to see what Bennett can do working with Wynn next year.
                      You are wrong about IR versus injury settlements. The most typical inseason scenarios are that the player goes on IR and the injury settlement is negotiated while he is on IR, or they simply keep him to the end of the season and then release him if they have no continuing interest. I don't expect either to happen. I expect he will be brought back to camp next year, but at the first hint of injury in the off season or training camp he will be released. I think he is out of chances and will not be on the roster next season.

                      Actually, if you read my posts, I have said I like Wynn a bit. He intrigues me. I won't mind a bit if they give him another shot. He might be worth it. However, in looking at how quickly they shoved him onto IR, with no definitive statement about what is wrong with him, it seemed very peculiar to me.

                      Someone had to go to make room for Robinson, but why their leading rusher if they had so much confidence in him as you suggest? Why not release Bodiford instead? (a WR for a WR). Why not Blackmon to IR with the broken foot that could easily keep him out the rest of the season? Why not Harrell to IR? He will be out a few more weeks and plays an overstocked position anyway. Why not Montgomery who has contributed nothing? Why not Muir who is way, way down the pecking order at DT? Why their leading rusher who "rose to the top of the heap" as you said???

                      Usually with stingers and other nerve injuries they talk about having to wait a few days for the nerve to "cool down" before being able to assess it. Moll was on the verge of coming back for a month before he did. Do they really know Wynn will be out for weeks and weeks, or did they get tired of waiting for him to stay healthy?

                      I don't dislike the guy. I've not called him a name. I've not criticized him unfairly. I've not even suggested he is unwilling to play with injuries. I do think the teams actions following his latest injury were a bit sudden and do not bode well for future opportunities for him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        the other injury he had in regular season was cramps.

                        I thought that might be due to poor conditioning, but patler insists it was dehydration.
                        I was simply relaying what the Packer medical staff said. I guess I should defer to your educated opinion over theirs, huh?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Patler
                          I was simply relaying what the Packer medical staff said. I guess I should defer to your educated opinion over theirs, huh?
                          The med staff would have recommended more fluids for ANYBODY that has a cramping problem. That is not a statement certifying that Wynn's conditioning is fine, or a diagnosis of what caused the cramping. This is unknowable.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            You are wrong about IR versus injury settlements.
                            I can't remember their names because they are flotsam and jetsom types, but the Packers have often just paid-off players with no future.

                            Originally posted by Patler
                            I expect he will be brought back to camp next year
                            Glad to see you come to your senses.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              I was simply relaying what the Packer medical staff said. I guess I should defer to your educated opinion over theirs, huh?
                              The med staff would have recommended more fluids for ANYBODY that has a cramping problem. That is not a statement certifying that Wynn's conditioning is fine, or a diagnosis of what caused the cramping. This is unknowable.
                              Actually, no, the article DID attribute his cramps to dehydration. It said the cause was dehydration and the trainers believed it could be remedied by Wynn hydrating differently, with different fluids than the team generally. They even gave him his own bottles and fluids that would be on the field during practices and games just for him. They said the staff would monitor him specifically in hydration.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                Originally posted by Patler
                                You are wrong about IR versus injury settlements.
                                I can't remember their names because they are flotsam and jetsom types, but the Packers have often just paid-off players with no future.

                                Originally posted by Patler
                                I expect he will be brought back to camp next year
                                Glad to see you come to your senses.
                                I never felt differently. However, I still don't think he will be on the roster next year. He will be camp fodder, just in case he turns it around, but camp fodder never the less.

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