Wynn out for year

[Harlan Huckleby]

alchohol causes dehydration.

were you dehydrated the first series of the game?

[MJZiggy]

No, but I would have been if I were trying to run against a pro football d-line. And quit trying to change the subject.

[Patler]

Keep clinging to that thread Harlan, even though you are blowing in the wind!

I beleive that poor conditioning was a contributing cause. Call me crazy. Just because it was not a hot day, cramps occured on first series.

Could be, but even McCarthy said they noticed he was perspiring profusely BEFORE the game, in warm-ups.

Interestingly, the Gainesville Florida newspaper referred to it as his CHRONIC dehydration problem, when they ran a story about him and the Packers. Maybe the medical staff was aware of past problems????

[Harlan Huckleby]

No, but I would have been if I were trying to run against a pro football d-line. And quit trying to change the subject.

your drinking problem is not relevent to Deshawn Wynn's cramps, true. Well, indirectly - your bleary-eyed posts here.

[MJZiggy]

No, but I would have been if I were trying to run against a pro football d-line. And quit trying to change the subject.

your drinking problem is not relevent to Deshawn Wynn's cramps, true. Well, indirectly - your bleary-eyed posts here.

The dude who didn't show up has no point of reference as to my physical conditioning or my alcohol habits...

[RashanGary]

He's a guy who could have a big impact on the team next year if he works hard. I agree with Harlan that Wynn has a chance and everyone writing him off is way too early. He did a good job while he played. You can compare him to Ferg, but Wynn acctually played well. Ferg never played well as a rookie, 2nd year or vet.

I like Wynn a lot. I still think he's the best running back on the roster. And in regard to Patlers assertion taht they prematurely threw him on IR because they think he sucks, MM said he had a stinger that was worse than Molls and Molls took months to recover from. They thought it was going to take a long time for him to come back. The season is already half over. They put him on IR because they don't think he'll be back soon if you believe what MM says over your own opinions.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wynn has his moments. He's not a complete stiff, but I'm not partial to prodding, big backs who like to dance in the backfield.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I beleive that poor conditioning was a contributing cause. Call me crazy. Just because it was not a hot day, cramps occured on first series.

Could be, but

this argument started because you ruled-out poor conditioning as a factor.

What JH said.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He's a guy who could have a big impact on the team next year if he works hard. I agree with Harlan that Wynn has a chance and everyone writing him off is way too early. He did a good job while he played. You can compare him to Ferg, but Wynn acctually played well. Ferg never played well as a rookie, 2nd year or vet.

I like Wynn a lot. I still think he's the best running back on the roster. And in regard to Patlers assertion taht they prematurely threw him on IR because they think he sucks, MM said he had a stinger that was worse than Molls and Molls took months to recover from. They thought it was going to take a long time for him to come back. The season is already half over. They put him on IR because they don't think he'll be back soon if you believe what MM says over your own opinions.

Thompson and McCarthy rarely criticize a player--even when the writing is on the wall for that player. My guess (and that's all it is) is that they see some talent in the dude, but believe his issues are mostly mental. They hope that he overcomes this and provides depth next year. Why tear him down if they have some hope that he'll do overcome it? My guess is that he won't fulfill his potential--because he's soft (that's for Harlan).

[RashanGary]

Maybe his body can't hold up, but it's way too soon to make those assumptions. He had a couple injuries. If he comes back next year and the same happens, it's time to start writing him off. I see a good runner on a team that doesn't have any good runners. I think it's way early to write him off.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He had more than a couple. I bet he's had at least 5 (and probably more) things that have kept him out of practice or caused him to leave a game. I can understand guys getting injured (see Greg Jennings), but his were on a much grander scale. Also, judging by last year, Jennings is a type of guy that wants to fight through the injury and be there for his team.

[Bretsky]

I was simply relaying what the Packer medical staff said. I guess I should defer to your educated opinion over theirs, huh?

The med staff would have recommended more fluids for ANYBODY that has a cramping problem. That is not a statement certifying that Wynn's conditioning is fine, or a diagnosis of what caused the cramping. This is unknowable.

Actually, no, the article DID attribute his cramps to dehydration. It said the cause was dehydration and the trainers believed it could be remedied by Wynn hydrating differently, with different fluids than the team generally. They even gave him his own bottles and fluids that would be on the field during practices and games just for him. They said the staff would monitor him specifically in hydration.

KNOCK THIS LOGIC CRAP OFF

[Bretsky]

Keep clinging to that thread Harlan, even though you are blowing in the wind!

I beleive that poor conditioning was a contributing cause. Call me crazy. Just because it was not a hot day, cramps occured on first series.

Didn't this guy play in Florida all last year ? Wait, maybe not as much due to his un wynning issues. But who cares about the past; that's not relevant...well...only in the eyes of those not associated with the NFL Draft or Player Evaluation....so did you ever come up with the list HW requested or is that not relevant either ?

And Patler, stop trying to make sense; futile when it comes to this topic it seems.

[Bretsky]

He's a guy who could have a big impact on the team next year if he works hard. I agree with Harlan that Wynn has a chance and everyone writing him off is way too early. He did a good job while he played. You can compare him to Ferg, but Wynn acctually played well. Ferg never played well as a rookie, 2nd year or vet.

I like Wynn a lot. I still think he's the best running back on the roster. And in regard to Patlers assertion taht they prematurely threw him on IR because they think he sucks, MM said he had a stinger that was worse than Molls and Molls took months to recover from. They thought it was going to take a long time for him to come back. The season is already half over. They put him on IR because they don't think he'll be back soon if you believe what MM says over your own opinions.

Thompson and McCarthy rarely criticize a player--even when the writing is on the wall for that player. My guess (and that's all it is) is that they see some talent in the dude, but believe his issues are mostly mental. They hope that he overcomes this and provides depth next year. Why tear him down if they have some hope that he'll do overcome it? My guess is that he won't fulfill his potential--because he's soft (that's for Harlan).

[Patler]

And in regard to Patlers assertion taht they prematurely threw him on IR because they think he sucks, MM said he had a stinger that was worse than Molls and Molls took months to recover from. They thought it was going to take a long time for him to come back. The season is already half over. They put him on IR because they don't think he'll be back soon if you believe what MM says over your own opinions.

When did I say they think he sucks? I believe I said they may have gotten tired of waiting for him. I also said I kind of like him, and wouldn't be at all upset if they do bring him back.

You are reading way too much into my back and forth with Harlan. Having some experience with stingers, I can tell you my experience was they normally wait a couple days for the nerve to settle down before any prognosis. Moll took a long time, but they also thought he was on the verge of returning for weeks. They kept saying "next week" and "day to day" for weeks, which suggest to me that it could have been a 2-3 week thing for him, but ended up to be 5 or 6 for whatever reason. If it was for Moll, why not Wynn? That's why I said they "gave up" awful fast. If they know it is real bad, they aren't saying to much with certainty. A lot of "coulds" and "mights" from what I have seen

All I am saying is that the whole thing with him seems odd to me. Usually when a guy goes on IR they have much more definitive statements about the injury and prognosis than they gave us so far. The rest was all just my opinion.

I'm just surprised they didn't wait for a while to see how he responds, kind of like they are with Blackmon. They could have let Bodiford go to make room for Robinson and bought some time for Wynn to heal. With Robinson on board, all Bodiford is is a very small wedge buster.