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  • Originally posted by woodbuck27
    As surprized as YOU may be towords my position on him exactly reflects my feelings regarding all YOU who are so blindly adoring of him.
    Maybe it's Woody that Merlin is constantly running into.
    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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    • Originally posted by SkinBasket
      Originally posted by woodbuck27
      A Barry Sanders couldn't run behind our OL. it is primarily adequate in pass protection alone.
      So I guess Grant is better than Barry Sanders? Right BANG on!


      Now if we could only determine who was responsible for bringing such a wonderful talent to Green Bay we could all give him the accolades he dserves!
      This is one move by TT that clearly Skin I am applauding.

      I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED TT'S AGRESSIVENESS IN ACQUIRING RYAN GRANT BUT OF COURSE THE COST WAS ONLY A 6TH AND THE $ NOT A LOT.
      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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      ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
      ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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      • Originally posted by SkinBasket
        Originally posted by Merlin
        Never let reality interfere with your logic my friend, you are the ruler of your world.
        Once again, you unintentionally provide some of the best humor here. You've said a lot of stupid things over the course of this season, but you always find a way to go even deeper into the stark depths of cluelessness to pull out another gem like this.

        When I picture Merlin, I see a blind man continuously running into a brick wall, cursing the daylights out of the wall, calling it blind and stupid, then proceeding to walk right back into the same wall and repeating the process until he's unconscious.
        Why is it when you have nothing to back yourself up with you resort to name calling and demoralizing comments? Seems to me that horse you are on just keeps getting smaller and smaller. I do feel sorry for you, it must be rough only knowing what you know.
        "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
        – Benjamin Franklin

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        • Originally posted by mraynrand
          You sure it wasn't a 2007 Chevy Malibu? Word is they are very easy to overlook.
          I used to roll in the 'Bu the first year they "reintroduced" the model so I feel a little betrayed by the new ad campaign.

          I also blame Ted for not finding me a sexier car at such an affordable price.
          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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          • Originally posted by Merlin
            Why is it when you have nothing to back yourself up with you resort to name calling and demoralizing comments? Seems to me that horse you are on just keeps getting smaller and smaller. I do feel sorry for you, it must be rough only knowing what you know.
            I am truly sorry I demoralized you. That must be a tragic feeling.

            I've said it before and I'll say it again. You've got to be the funniest fucker on this board without even trying. Thanks for the laughs.
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • Originally posted by woodbuck27
              Originally posted by SkinBasket
              Originally posted by woodbuck27
              A Barry Sanders couldn't run behind our OL. it is primarily adequate in pass protection alone.
              So I guess Grant is better than Barry Sanders? Right BANG on!


              Now if we could only determine who was responsible for bringing such a wonderful talent to Green Bay we could all give him the accolades he dserves!
              This is one move by TT that clearly Skin I am applauding.

              I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED TT'S AGRESSIVENESS IN ACQUIRING RYAN GRANT BUT OF COURSE THE COST WAS ONLY A 6TH AND THE $ NOT A LOT.
              The comment went more to the play of our offensive line than the RB, since I'm assuming you don't actually feel Grant is better than Sanders. Then again, what the hell, maybe you do.
              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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              • COGNITIVE DISSONANCE: An inability to handle new information that contradicts long-held deep beliefs.



                To help you all what these poor bastards are going through.

                Here is the issue. They wanted TT fired because he should be responsible for the team's success. The team is successful, so they attribute that to other factors. If they want TT fired now, then they are contradicting the idea that a GM is ultimately responsible for the success of a team.

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                • Originally posted by SkinBasket

                  The comment went more to the play of our offensive line than the RB, since I'm assuming you don't actually feel Grant is better than Sanders. Then again, what the hell, maybe you do.
                  I have a theory that both Woodbuck and Merlin are brilliant sociopaths who speak in riddles designed to amuse themselves.

                  He just said Grant was a great pick up, but didn't cost much. (as if getting something for nothing is anything other than great work) He gave TT credit, but said it in a backwards way that looked like a shot on TT.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    See Marshawn Lynch!! How's he looking in BUFFALO?
                    Was he even on TT's radar screen?
                    Yes, but not at the expense of 2 additional picks to move up.

                    Code:
                                               Car  Yards  Avg   TD  Long
                    Week 10 vs Jax - M. Lynch	19	 61	3.2	1	18
                    Week 9 vs Cin - M. Lynch	 29   153	5.3	1	56
                    Week 8 vs NYJ - M. Lynch	 21	 80	3.8	0	10
                    Week 7 vs Bal - M. Lynch	 27	 84	3.1	1	23
                    Week 6 Bye
                    Week 5 vs Dal - M. Lynch	 20	 66	3.3	0	15
                    Week 4 vs NYJ - M. Lynch	 23	 79	3.4	1	11
                    Week 3 vs NE  - M. Lynch	 20	 74	3.7	1	12
                    Week 2 vs Pit - M. Lynch	 18	 64	3.6	0	12
                    Week 1 vs Den - M. Lynch	 19	 90	4.7	1	23
                    He's looking very pedestrian. That could be that Buffalo cant run block, but by your estimation we cant either. So would it have been worth trading up and maybe missing out on Jones?

                    I would estimate that 60-70% of your posts have something questioning Thompson, whether or not it has any bearing on the topic or not. You call the man a "Lame Ass GM" because his team building philosophy differs from yours, yet the Packers are 8-1. You say this is in spite of him, yet you hold no executive position in an NFL office. Your posts are so far out that people feel compelled to reply, yet you get overly defensive if they disagree with you.

                    Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    i follow a lot of sports and have for longer than you've lived man and TT is a few bricks short of the full load I expect our GM to pull to get us all the way to the Super Bowl.
                    You must have absolutely HATED Sherman then. That man's draft hit % was about 5% and he wasted picks trading up on busts and bad trades. 2 picks for RKal Truluk? I could go down the draft day debacles, but they have been rehashed too many time.

                    You have every right to question the GM no matter who it is, but to say he's a lame ass GM at 8-1 seems like sour grapes.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • Originally posted by cheesner
                      COGNITIVE DISSONANCE: An inability to handle new information that contradicts long-held deep beliefs.



                      To help you all what these poor bastards are going through.

                      Here is the issue. They wanted TT fired because he should be responsible for the team's success. The team is successful, so they attribute that to other factors. If they want TT fired now, then they are contradicting the idea that a GM is ultimately responsible for the success of a team.
                      I'm going to try to cognitively dissonancify myself shortly.
                      "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                      • Originally posted by woodbuck27
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        I think admitting they were wrong about TT would be too big a blow to their egos.
                        Scott this has nothing to do with my eGO but rather just the way I perceive Ted Thompson as a lame ass GM that we need to carefully assess.

                        As surprized as YOU may be towords my position on him exactly reflects my feelings regarding all YOU who are so blindly adoring of him.

                        i follow a lot of sports and have for longer than you've lived man and TT is a few bricks short of the full load I expect our GM to pull to get us all the way to the Super Bowl.

                        He has a hard head and not ready to pull the trigger when the time is obvious.

                        See Randy Moss and T.O.

                        See Marshawn Lynch!! How's he looking in BUFFALO?
                        Was he even on TT's radar screen
                        ?

                        See the weakness in our ZBS.

                        How are we looking at the safety spot and at CB for our future with Al Harris and Charles Woodson aging; and the likes of Will Blackmon and J Bush** not appearing to be an answer due to his constant bouts with injury.\ and ** his sloppy play.

                        Are we looking great at FB and TE? robert Lee has shown us more but is it enough for our offense?


                        lots of questions that TT has to address not YOU or I and this is a GM that selected a DT
                        this season in the first round where we are obbviously NOT in need.

                        How are the other DT's doing that went in last April's Draft Scott?

                        GO PACK GO !

                        I do like Ryan Grant at RB but when will TT let gp of Morency?
                        Moss was obviously worth pursuing, but maybe not for the Packers. TT wasn't willing to give up a higher draft pick for a player that had a ton of question marks. I have no problem with that. Hindsight is always perfect. TO? Where the hell did you pull that from. The fact that people complain about our receiving corp is laughable. If TT had brought in either of the guys you mentioned Jennings, Jones, and Martin would not be making plays and developing a solid core of receivers for the future. They are good now and they will be even better in the future.

                        I'm sure Lynch was on TT's radar. But in case you forgot he was drafted well before we picked. Giving up picks in the draft is one sure fire way to run a team into the ground. See Mike Sherman's tenure.

                        Again, complaining about the play of our defense is laughable. Harris and Woodson have shown plenty this year. It's not like these gusy are getting burned for big plays. No reason to think they don't have good years left in them. No need to panic when you have two of the best corners in the league. I'm sure TT will address these needs in the offseason. Biby and Collins have been fine.

                        Why are so you quick to write off a guy who hasn't played. Yeah, sure I would love to have our first round pick out there, but it's not like his absence is huring us. D-line depth is important. I have no problem with adding talent there year after year.

                        Has it ever occurred to you guys, that TT saw the talent on the roster and decided not to pursue Moss and others because, frankly, we don't need them. Moss would not be improving our pass game that much. We have thrown the ball well short, middle, and deep. There is very little room for improvement. With the exception of the running game (although it has improved 10 fold over the last few weeks and there wasn't really anybody available that would have helped) we are fairly strong in every facet of the game. For crying out loud we are 8-1 and TT has plenty of cap room to lock up his own guys and if he sees somebody he likes he will pursue them in FA, see Pickett and Woodson.
                        GO PACK!!!!

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                        • Most reasonable people on this forum took an attitude (rightly so) of waiting 2-3 years to give the new GM a chance to show what he could do. There were very few people that hated or loved him right from the beginning.

                          Now he is proving to most of us that he does know what he is doing and that his "formula" for team building works. He will not make every move you or any of us wishes he would make every time. He will make the move that HE thinks is best for the team.

                          The only true measure of success for a GM is the team's record and their current to near future salary cap position.

                          TT gets a good grade on both accounts.

                          Some of you want to grade him on whether he made the moves and draft picks YOU wanted him to make. That is ridiculous. You can invent dozens of arguments. Arguments about the future of this position and that position, who he could have signed in FA, etc etc. There would be no way ANY GM would be good with that logic.

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                          • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Wow. I can't believe the posts I read from Woodbuck and Merlin. You guys have to be the most miserable bastards ever.

                            And, Woodbuck, you have to be one of the dumbest ever. I would be embarrassed to even have thought what you wrote.

                            "I would FIRE TT in a NY minute and confidently hire any number of people even here on this Forum to replace him."

                            The bottom line is this. The top guy gets the credit and the blame for EVERYTHING. To say that the success of this team doesn't reflect on TT is ludicrous. This is HIS team. Regardless of players that he inherited. Those players could have been cut or traded. Those are decisions that TT made. If MM installs the offense and defense that is a winner, then it is certainly TT's success as he hired him. And, let's not forget how many fans were against the MM hiring. TT took a bunch of heat for that. Now, you wanna just give the credit to MM? Laughable.

                            TT could have traded Favre. He could have cut good players that he didn't like, didn't feel could adapt, etc. Those are decisions HE made. And, deciding not to do something is a decision as much as deciding to do something.

                            Oh, and for you two, the last time we had a poor running game...that would be under Ron Wolf in Holmgren's early years. We ran probably worse then when it seemed all we had was Favre to Sharpe. But, like most rational/sane fans we had a sense that things were on the upswing. That this team was being built, that there was a plan. That is the same feeling that any normal, rational fan has now. Are we perfect, of course not. But, I watch this team and the moves TT has made and I can plainly see that TT has a philosophy and methodology..and as my mom and TT say, the proof is in the pudding. This team has shown constant growth.

                            Woody and Merlin, the time is now for you to gracefully acknowledge that TT has turned this team around in a much quicker time frame than anyone expected.

                            It is sad when tyrone has to tell you two to stop hitting the pipe.

                            Ding! Ding! Ding!
                            Another winning post!!!
                            Applause!!!!!
                            Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                            • Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              Originally posted by Merlin
                              Never let reality interfere with your logic my friend, you are the ruler of your world.
                              Once again, you unintentionally provide some of the best humor here. You've said a lot of stupid things over the course of this season, but you always find a way to go even deeper into the stark depths of cluelessness to pull out another gem like this.

                              When I picture Merlin, I see a blind man continuously running into a brick wall, cursing the daylights out of the wall, calling it blind and stupid, then proceeding to walk right back into the same wall and repeating the process until he's unconscious.
                              Ding! Ding! Ding!
                              ANOTHER winner!!!!
                              You guys are really hitting the mark today!
                              Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                              • Well, it's just my opinion but I think McCarthy is the guy doing the best job. TT is doing ok, above average even but MM has been outstanding.

                                Then again, look who I have to compare him to.....

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