The Silver Haired Teddy Bear Deserves A Snuggle

[Merlin]

I enjoy Woody and Merlin. With everything going so smoothly for the Packers, it would be almost boring if we couldn't get additional joy from the frustration of those who predicted disaster for the Packers. Watching the two of them grasp at straws is somewhere between pathetic and hilarious--Merlin is even carefully redefining what success means. Now winning the superbowl isn't enough, TT also has to jump through a number of Merlin's other hoops. Are you telling us that it is better to never make the superbowl, so long as TT meets all Merlin's other demands, than to win it if TT doesn't also dance to Merlin's tune? It's hard to believe even Woody would agree with that. I used to spend more time at another forum, but now that all their Sherman Loving, TT hating posters have either seen the light of day or at least aren't beating their chests anymore, the only guys still performing their clown act are over here.

I don't seem to recall predicting disaster for the Packers. Yet again, something made up fueled by speculation and misinterpretation. I put the Packers success or lack there of, squarely where it belongs, on the players and coaches. Thompson has made some very poor personel moves in his tenure but for whatever reason he gets a pass. I was as critical of Sherman as I am Thompson. This board suffers from homerism because we are 10-1 and people just have blinders on. Hell they were bitching about our guard play but it was never attributed to Thompson, you know the guy you have given credit for everything that's good with the Packers? It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

[SkinBasket]

I don't seem to recall predicting disaster for the Packers. Yet again, something made up fueled by speculation and misinterpretation. I put the Packers success or lack there of, squarely where it belongs, on the players and coaches. Thompson has made some very poor personel moves in his tenure but for whatever reason he gets a pass. I was as critical of Sherman as I am Thompson. This board suffers from homerism because we are 10-1 and people just have blinders on. Hell they were bitching about our guard play but it was never attributed to Thompson, you know the guy you have given credit for everything that's good with the Packers? It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

Merlin, you've been down this road before. It doesn't end well.

[cheesner]

I enjoy Woody and Merlin. With everything going so smoothly for the Packers, it would be almost boring if we couldn't get additional joy from the frustration of those who predicted disaster for the Packers. Watching the two of them grasp at straws is somewhere between pathetic and hilarious--Merlin is even carefully redefining what success means. Now winning the superbowl isn't enough, TT also has to jump through a number of Merlin's other hoops. Are you telling us that it is better to never make the superbowl, so long as TT meets all Merlin's other demands, than to win it if TT doesn't also dance to Merlin's tune? It's hard to believe even Woody would agree with that. I used to spend more time at another forum, but now that all their Sherman Loving, TT hating posters have either seen the light of day or at least aren't beating their chests anymore, the only guys still performing their clown act are over here.

I don't seem to recall predicting disaster for the Packers. Yet again, something made up fueled by speculation and misinterpretation. I put the Packers success or lack there of, squarely where it belongs, on the players and coaches. Thompson has made some very poor personel moves in his tenure but for whatever reason he gets a pass. I was as critical of Sherman as I am Thompson. This board suffers from homerism because we are 10-1 and people just have blinders on. Hell they were bitching about our guard play but it was never attributed to Thompson, you know the guy you have given credit for everything that's good with the Packers? It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

I have a new theory about you. You were very wrong about TT and you know it. You, however, are a very superstitious person, and are attributing Packer success in part to your negativity for TT. Although your statements in this post contradict many of your earlier posts; are blatant lies; and/are a departure from rational thought; you continue to post to maintain the Packer success. Either that or your nurse makes you wear a helmet most of the day.

[packers04]

blinded by homerism?!? 10 wins..... 1 loss...... Enuf Said Merlin.

[packrat]

Cheesner, I think you nailed it. The only rational explanation for Merlin's "10-1 does not cut it and it is all TT's fault" hysteria is that his continued knocking of TT is his good luck charm that brings on Packer victories. Keep it up, Merlin, and thanks! I'll not complain again, now that I realize the sacrifice you are making for the team.

[Carolina_Packer]

I don't seem to recall predicting disaster for the Packers. Yet again, something made up fueled by speculation and misinterpretation.

Scott Campbell, do you have info to the contrary? It's hard to misinterpret the word disaster, but I would think it would mean not expecting much good to happen would also mean disaster.

I put the Packers success or lack there of, squarely where it belongs, on the players and coaches.

So, no matter what Thompson does, it has no bearing on the success or failings of the team? I'm not understanding this point.

Thompson has made some very poor personel moves in his tenure but for whatever reason he gets a pass.

Every GM makes decisions that don't work out. What is your definition of poor personnel moves? Ones that do not agree with your idea of how a team should be built? Is your way the gold standard? If so, then according to you we've blindly lucked into being 10-1, despite Thompson's efforts. Every GM has hits and misses. Every GM has their idea of how to build or rebuild a team and uses their own philosophies to do this. I'd say at 10-1, there's not much to argue about. Does that mean he's done no wrong? Stop asserting that EVERYONE else thinks that Thompson has done NOTHING wrong and that he deserves a free pass. Obviously there are people who disagree with him still, but many of them had the epiphany that perhaps his ideas are working. Thompson can only control what he can control. He finds the talent, and McCarthy develops it. That's the relationship. You can't take ALL the credit or ALL the blame and give it to either the Head Coach or the GM. Success is as much like a chemical reaction as failure is. Bottom line is, everyone shares both failures and success.

I was as critical of Sherman as I am Thompson. This board suffers from homerism because we are 10-1 and people just have blinders on. Hell they were bitching about our guard play but it was never attributed to Thompson, you know the guy you have given credit for everything that's good with the Packers? It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

Again, you are asserting that the Packers are winning despite the efforts of Ted Thompson. He may not build a team with the same philosophy that you have, but obviously, if his job is to bring football talent to McCarthy and staff, he must not have brought them too bad a talent, unless McCarthy is sitting there complaining that the Packers are succeeding in spite of Thompson's approach. Wouldn't that be more evident if we had guys who were stiffs?

I don't think anyone here, even the most ardent Thompson supporter would say that EVERYTHING he does is what they agree with, but they look at the big picture and the results and like what they see overall, including the record so far this year. You do not luck into a 10-1 record. You cannot explain it all away and say it's Brett Favre and nobody else, because we had Brett Favre when we were struggling in 2005 and part of 2006. Favre needs a supporting cast just like every other QB. It's amazing how much better teams look when they catch the ball and move the chains. What Thompson and McCarthy takes time to build. It's not a light switch, especially when you make yourself the youngest team in the league, but bottom line, they are having success together.

[packrat]

We've got to lighten up on Merlin. Now that I realize it is his negative posts that are the reason the football God is helping the Pack win with things like Sharper turning a Viking interception into a Packer touchdown, or an opponent calling a timeout that takes away their touchdown, then I also realize the sacrifice Merlin is making by keeping the negative posts up, even though they make him look foolish. How many of us would be willing to make the same sacrifice (Check it out--how many negative posts did Merlin make before the Chicago game, and look what happened.) With Dallas coming up, we need all the negativism that Merlin can muster. Go to it, man.

[Carolina_Packer]

Like the old Hollies song "King Midas in Reverse" gotcha!

[Tarlam!]

It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

If we were 1-10, we'd be flaming the guy Merlin. We'd be calling for his head. Man, can you imagine being a Miami fan?

None of us think TT is Godlike. We have all taken potshots at individual decisions. More than once, we've called into question his sanity.

BUT THE TEAM IS WINNING!

Whether you acknowledge it or not, this is a team put together by TT. He seems to listen to his scouts. He seems to listen to M3, who represents his staff. M3 seems to listen also to his players.

What I as a fan applaud in this TT led regime is that plans are made bottom up, not top down. That is why I am on the bandwagon.

Of course, TT has definitely made mistakes. Everyone here knows that! But despite those mistakes, the team is not the Miami Dolphins.

That's why I'm a Homer, and proud of it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It's ridiculous to even have this conversation with anyone who is so obviously blinded by a 10-1 record.

As it is to have a conversation with someone who is so obviously blinded by a 4-12 and 8-8 record.

[son of a vic]

I've done worn out my teddy. Woody, do you have an extra one hidden in your closet you could borrow me, until the season ends with a championship?

I'll understand if you decide to keep it. The popularity of the "silver teddy"
will make the beanie baby sensation look like a Burger King kid's meal toy collection.

[woodbuck27]

The big difference here for me is that fan (over)reaction to the teams success and linking it solely to Thompson. No offense Ras because I know you are a true Vikings fan but these people sound like Vikings fans. All on a band wagon singing praises. Where were these praises when we were 4-12? 3-8? It's only okay to grumble when the team is doing bad. So given their logic, why isn't Sherman still the head coach? I mean shit, all he did was win. GM for that matter? Why is it that people only talk about the bad that he did and none of the positive? It's all about being complete and total idiots with this subject.

I have no patience or time for cake-eating bandwagon fans. If they can't take the good with the bad, equally attribute that all the way up the chain, then they don't deserve the right to be called a fan. It's perfectly fine with me if someone supports Thompson, but to spooge all over the guy and make ridiculous posts like this is the problem. I don't hate Thompson but I have not like a majority of his decisions to this point. I am allowed to have that opinion whether we are 7-1 or 1-7. For whatever reason though, this cake-eating crowd only views things through some kind of imaginary vision glasses.

Fight! Fight!! Fight!!! FOR YOUR RIGHT Merlin.

[SkinBasket]

Are you really that bored woody?

[woodbuck27]

We've got to lighten up on Merlin. Now that I realize it is his negative posts that are the reason the football God is helping the Pack win with things like Sharper turning a Viking interception into a Packer touchdown, or an opponent calling a timeout that takes away their touchdown, then I also realize the sacrifice Merlin is making by keeping the negative posts up, even though they make him look foolish. How many of us would be willing to make the same sacrifice (Check it out--how many negative posts did Merlin make before the Chicago game, and look what happened.) With Dallas coming up, we need all the negativism that Merlin can muster. Go to it, man.

That is what I have a lot of difficulty with.

To classify or infer that any man here is a fool just because he takes a stance opposed to the status quo, and then defends his position with rigor and consistent merit. My hat is off to Merlin and his brave world of telling it as he see's it. Not always trying to be accepted and a follow along. This forum has room for more REBELS like Merlin and I too.

A really close inspection of what TT has actually done, merits the position that Merlin and I stand by also. Sadly it's easier for some here to lower themselves in arrogance; resort to common forms and jabs of ridicule rather than keep an open view.

Where I come from:

It's not over till 'the fat lady sings'. TT has a ways to go there and I'm just hoping he'll be in tune soon. Neither Merlin or I HATE TT, and if Merlin is like me? He doesn't lower himself to that useless and pathetic emotion.

He and I just want to see the GM in training rise up and get there faster. To see really certain signs of that ideal of promise. Granted the age of our team and CAP health is good and holds well for our future, but you've got to see or have the playmakers after all the shouting and the dust clears. It's the playmakers that often carries a team over the top and the little fellas as well.

We need both.

How many playmakers has TT supplied to us compared to all the warm bodies he's placed in TC's and on our rosters? CHECK THAT OUT and Y'all might get that reality check that Merlin and I hope for Y'all.

The bottom line is this:

None of you are more the Packer fan or have higher hopes for our team than Merlin and I. SUCK that one UP!!

and this:

PACKERS FOREVER!

PS: Good stuff Merlin.

[The Shadow]

"......team than Merlin and I. SUCK that one UP!! "


That's a bit more accurate, I believe........