Just for fun

[Rastak]

Jealous of the Bucks, not really. I liked many Bucks in the past but like Larrinitas? Hawk will never be what the lovers of O St want him to be.

You should be jealous of OSU; I am. What about that Rob Carpenter ?

Most OSU guys have to take a pay cut to go to the NFL......

[b bulldog]

Good point, I was wrong on him also. I thought he would make a good SLB. Way off with that one. I guess when I stated that Hawk wasn't the best LB on his college team I was wrong, my bad.

[b bulldog]

Unlike the masses who does include Harv, Nick and B (who all thought that AJ WAS THE 2ND COMING) I can admit when I am wrong. What about the MLB who went to Cinncy since we are now pointing out bad calls or what about the WR from UT who was drafted by the Saints? Ron Wolf along with Parcells both have stated that Mario was #1 on their boards but like me, dead wrong. At least the Lions knew what they were doing when they drafted Sims.

[Bretsky]

Unlike the masses who does include Harv, Nick and B (who all thought that AJ WAS THE 2ND COMING) I can admit when I am wrong. What about the MLB who went to Cinncy since we are now pointing out bad calls or what about the WR from UT who was drafted by the Saints? Ron Wolf along with Parcells both have stated that Mario was #1 on their boards but like me, dead wrong. At least the Lions knew what they were doing when they drafted Sims.

If there was an emoticon with a big yawn on it this thread would be very deserving

I guess you feel the need to fill space in between the next Favre should retire to let AROD play thread

[Deputy Nutz]

Bulldog what makes you ridiculous is that you quote a fucking journalist that interviewed one scout on the whole thing. The scout wasn't all that flattering of Hawk and I sure haven't been this year.

But the only thing you care to do is look up stats, and say, "Hey look at the stats!" Well sometimes you have to say, "Fuck the stats" Who the fuck else makes tackles for the Lions defense? Bailey???? Sorry the bottom line is that the Packers play a certain scheme and it isn't one that show cases AJ Hawk, at least at this point.

Hawk needs to be let loose, let him run at the snap of the ball, I guarantee he makes more tackles then plays that he over runs.

[b bulldog]

Good one, I'd expect more but when you have nothing else that you can throw in my face about Hawk, oh well Brett does deserve his backers for what he has done but why does Hawk get the same treatment? He has done nothing to this point. Maybe you could go on and on about how bad TT is

[b bulldog]

Sorry Nutz but Mc Ginn is an excellent reporter and when he isn't picking on AJ, most people in here would agree with that.

[Bretsky]

Good one, I'd expect more but when you have nothing else that you can throw in my face about Hawk, oh well Brett does deserve his backers for what he has done but why does Hawk get the same treatment? He has done nothing to this point. Maybe you could go on and on about how bad TT is

You are clearly one of those kind of guys who always has to have the last word regardless of the topic.

So feel free to craftily throw out your I told you so mojo once more so you feel good about yourself and bash whatever you want to bash while you are at it.

Whatever it is I'll pledge to let you have the last word this time

Cheers,
B

[Deputy Nutz]

Sorry Nutz but Mc Ginn is an excellent reporter and when he isn't picking on AJ, most people in here would agree with that.

I think he knows what he is doing, but I kind of think he is blowing a little hard on this one, that is my point. This defense as a whole as been lights out all year and Hawk has been a big part of that, if he was having a poor season I think you would see it more in other defensive numbers other than just AJ's individual numbers.

[b bulldog]

nEVER SAID POOR, JUST AVERAGE AND not more than that. B, you seem to be the same way in regards to having the last word. I know you will read this and probably won't respond but my biweekly rants about Hawk fail in comparison to everything you said about TT and your sig that shows up on every post. Somebody posts some numbers and opinions by some people in the know and he gets blasted. Very thin skin people.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bulldog what makes you ridiculous is that you quote a fucking journalist that interviewed one scout on the whole thing. The scout wasn't all that flattering of Hawk and I sure haven't been this year.

What's more ridiculous is posting an article that was written before the Chiefs game--a game in which Hawk played very well. Thanks for trying to rain on A.J.' parade. I'm very happy to have him at WLB. He's a good player. You can take your OSU jealousy elsewhere. Here's hoping the Buckeyes kick the Wolverines ass for about the 9th year in a row.

[b bulldog]

With all due repect, they probably will and I'll be here after the loss so you can rub it in. I don't have this jealousy thing for the Bucks, I was rooting for them on Saturday as I was last season against UF. O St is a level above UM and they are in a class with UT, USC, Oklahoma, LSU and Florida. Michigan now is not in that group but please don't let my comments on one player from O St make you think I'm jealous. UW will beat UM if Hart isn't close to 100% and it looks as though he won't be. UM's better days are ahead, Carr is our HC that can't win the rivalry game and always underachieves.

[The Leaper]

Hawk is better than an average LB. McGinn should know that and not write stupid shit. What average LB posts the amount of tackles Hawk had last year? The guy is fairly good in coverage...compared to Poppinga, he looks like Woodson. In fact, because Poppinga is such a liability in coverage, McCarthy is absolutely correct in saying that Hawk is in coverage much of the time. Hawk was on TG several times on Sunday, and didn't give up much when TG was his responsibilty.

Has he played like a #5 overall pick yet? No, he hasn't. However, that draft was pretty weak overall. None of the top 15 picks really blow up anyone's skirt with production at this point.

Vince Young? Please. Don't insult our intelligence by pointing to Young as an example of success.

The guy has a QB rating of 61 and tosses for about a 125 yards a game. He's hardly the reason the Titans are winning. 3 TDs vs. 8 INTs? In the 5 wins Young has played in this year, the Titans defense has given up exactly 10, 14, 13, 9 and 7 points.

In other words...it sure as fucking hell isn't Vince Young that is winning games for the Titans. They are winning IN SPITE of Young.

[Zool]

Who the fuck else makes tackles for the Lions defense? Bailey????

Uhh Paris Lenon? We'll always have Paris, Nutz.

[mmmdk]

Hawk is better than an average LB. McGinn should know that and not write stupid shit. What average LB posts the amount of tackles Hawk had last year? The guy is fairly good in coverage...compared to Poppinga, he looks like Woodson. In fact, because Poppinga is such a liability in coverage, McCarthy is absolutely correct in saying that Hawk is in coverage much of the time. Hawk was on TG several times on Sunday, and didn't give up much when TG was his responsibilty.

Has he played like a #5 overall pick yet? No, he hasn't. However, that draft was pretty weak overall. None of the top 15 picks really blow up anyone's skirt with production at this point.

Vince Young? Please. Don't insult our intelligence by pointing to Young as an example of success.

The guy has a QB rating of 61 and tosses for about a 125 yards a game. He's hardly the reason the Titans are winning. 3 TDs vs. 8 INTs? In the 5 wins Young has played in this year, the Titans defense has given up exactly 10, 14, 13, 9 and 7 points.

In other words...it sure as fucking hell isn't Vince Young that is winning games for the Titans. They are winning IN SPITE of Young.

I agree...not with McGinn though.

Hawk is a fine player and he brings a lot to this Packer team as he's so professional, doesn't quit and doesn't whine - Hawk makes plays. Hawk is what Packers need. I do wish Hawk could be unleashed but apart from Barnett & Hawk; then Packers are toast are LB. Poppinga brings professionalism too but he's, at times, a liability. I like Popps though; not a McKenzie or Walker personality.