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The Packers do not have a good track record of being proactive in rewarding players for good performance.
With the possible exceptions of Clifton, Tauscher, Harris, Driver, Fergeson (etc., etc., etc.....), I'd have to agree.
Did Ferguson ever even show the good performance to earn the contract he received ?
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
With the possible exceptions of Clifton, Tauscher, Harris, Driver, Fergeson (etc., etc., etc.....), I'd have to agree.
Ferguson never showed production worthy of the contract he received. Driver and Harris probably got their upgrades as much because they were a slap in the face to whiners who departed Green Bay, rather than because management expected to make the contract upgrade all along.
The list of players Green Bay strung along on below market contracts or until the last minute is long in recent years...Franks, Kampman, Diggs, KGB, Wahle, Walker, McKenzie. This caused us to have to overpay much of the time to retain talent, and also opened the potential for us to lose some of these players.
Anyone know how Fergie's contract compares to Driver's?
Before the renegotiation I think Fergy's cap figure was higher than Drivers.
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
The list of players Green Bay strung along on below market contracts or until the last minute is long in recent years...Franks, Kampman, Diggs, KGB, Wahle, Walker, McKenzie. This caused us to have to overpay much of the time to retain talent, and also opened the potential for us to lose some of these players.
Disagree. KGB and Kampman were 5th round picks. They got paid like 5th round picks - just like on every other team in the NFL.
Wahle was not underpaid. The only reason we had to overpay to keep Diggs is because Shermy tried to get cute with the tag he placed on him. Franks got a relatively modest pay increase, and padded the total value of his deal with a couple of years of salary that he'll likely never see.
Every team has a handful of players that are overpaid, and some that are underpaid. Green Bay is no different. Every team loses players to free agency. Green Bay is no different. Every team has disgruntled players. Green Bay is no different.
I read the article (good post, thanks) and I don't think Walker comes off badly at all. He's gracious about Favre, he's funny about how he wants to wear 84, and he says the right things about wanting to learn from his new teammates.
I'm with Wist and Leaper on this one. We don't know the real story, but if it is anything like Walker said, then TT blew it. He should not have given a flat no. He should have explored some options with Walker and kept the conversation going. Instead, he played hardball, which got us nowhere.
This was a bad outcome, and it has cost the Packers their best offensive weapon. And don't tell me he had only one good season. His rookie season was a wash (not surprising for a receiver), but in his second season he led the team in receiving yards, and his third season was huge.
Christl noted that no one on the current receiving corps can match Walker. He was special. He's gone. And I blame it on TT for not being more flexible.
Noodle,
I couldn't agree with all of this more.
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
I read the article (good post, thanks) and I don't think Walker comes off badly at all. He's gracious about Favre, he's funny about how he wants to wear 84, and he says the right things about wanting to learn from his new teammates.
Along with being a traitor yes walker was the best WR. But where was he gracious? You need to end your ban on ESPN noodleman!
walker is NOW saying that but I saw a couple of different ones where he wasnt. Talked about not having no respect for Favre and saying he wanted out. Now he is saying some of his teammates are why he left.
walker, I'll say it slow m a k e u p y o u r m i n d! Who do we blame cuz it obviously wasnt your fault?
As for his new teammates, let's ask Lelie about it.
Chris Chambers got a 5 yr 30 mil deal. Driver got 4 year 17 mil. I don't think he got full market value.
Hate to start a new fight after just a year ago brawling with many in here that Chambers was heads and heals better than Ferguson...........but........
ahoh.................I'm going to say it.
Chris Chambers is better than Driver
He's also younger than Driver and has a higher upside so he should be getting more.
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
Hate to start a new fight after just a year ago brawling with many in here that Chambers was heads and heals better than Ferguson...........but........
ahoh.................I'm going to say it.
Chris Chambers is better than Driver
He's also younger than Driver and has a higher upside so he should be getting more.
I really can't argue with that Bretsky, as much as I want too. I would have to agree that Chambers is a better wideout than Driver. Don't forget to take into consideration though that Driver was the man they have been looking to replace for years, and no one has stepped up enough to do so. If I remember right they wanted to try and replace him after his breakout year in 2002, then again in 2003, and so on. Just went you think he realized his whole potential he suprises you again.
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