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  • #16
    Originally posted by Guiness
    Curtis Enis!!! Loved that guy
    Set the Bears back some.


    Awfully argumentative in a couple of threads tonight 4and12...shouldn't drink and type, y'know

    Debate is healthy; hey, somebody throw me a beer
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Guiness
      Curtis Enis!!! Loved that guy
      Set the Bears back some.


      Awfully argumentative in a couple of threads tonight 4and12...shouldn't drink and type, y'know
      OK, OK, I just really believe in this guy, he didn't "get a chance" at the beginning of the year, he had to play against the Eagles and Chargers defense. Gimme a break, and he's a rookie. That's my whole point, he needs time to gel with this line, and feel comfortable so he plays with instinct, not fear. He has many more physical tools to be a very good RB than Grant, he's stronger and quicker. Not "faster" but quicker. He needs the rest of the season to be ready for the playoffs, forget homefield throughout, we aren't beating Dallas in Dallas. By the way, aren't you guys sick of the fact that we've played them in Dallas like 10 of the last 11 games we've played them? What the heck? They will beat us at home, and we will be second seed, who cares, let's get our best RB out there and give him an opportunity to shine, Grant IS NOT the answer. I just don't think he's that good. Maybe I'm wrong.
      "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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      • #18
        Both SD and Chicago rank in the bottom 10 in rush defense this year. Jackson is averaging 2.6 yards/carry. The other three RBs all average(d) at least 4.1 yards/carry.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          Both SD and Chicago rank in the bottom 10 in rush defense this year. Jackson is averaging 2.6 yards/carry. The other three RBs all average(d) at least 4.1 yards/carry.
          Well, Chicago is playing a bunch of second stringers, and the Chargers have played a lot of tough run defenses. They will turn it around and be strong in the playoffs, IMO. I think losing to us in game 3 this season really messed with SD's confidence. They are much better than their record, and had a GREAT run defense last year. I'm never gonna convince you, so maybe I'm wrong, I just have a gut feeling about this kid, and I think he's better than Grant. That's all I can say. But, the bottom line is that, our defense and passing game is gonna either make us or break us this postseason anyways, so it might be a moot subject.
          "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
            Put Jackson in for the rest of the year, and we might be able to beat the Cowboys in the playoffs
            Really.

            I think the Packers stand a decent chance of beating the Cowboys regardless, and one of the keys has been the emergence of a compentent run game thanks to Ryan Grant.

            This is an exercise in pointless hyperbole.

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            • #21
              Too many Packerrats overhyping this kid. Jackson's better. I've said it every way I can say it. Grant is what he is, but he's not the answer. He's fast, and has had a couple of nice runs, but we need a tougher RB than him, and Jackson might be that guy. Regardless, maybe I'm wrong, and I hope we kick Detroit and Dallas' asses, and make everyone come through the frozen tundra, but my bet is Dallas edges us out because it's their home game, and it's tough for us to win down there, the last time we beat them (wasn't that our superbowl year?) it was in GB, and I don't think we've played them in GB since. Correct me if I'm wrong.
              "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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              • #22
                If Jackson was better, he'd be starting.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  If Jackson was better, he'd be starting.
                  I disagree, he got injured, and then Grant played well enough in his absence to win the starting job, but that doesn't mean he's better, the injury has sidelined him as the starter for now, but not for long, one bad game for Grant, and he'll be back in there.
                  "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by esoxx

                    Really.

                    I think the Packers stand a decent chance of beating the Cowboys regardless, and one of the keys has been the emergence of a compentent run game thanks to Ryan Grant.

                    This is an exercise in pointless hyperbole.
                    I agree. I used to believe it was 60/40 Oline vs RB. Now I believe it is 30/70 Oline vs RB. As soon as Grant came in they ran well. As soon as Grant goes out, Jackson runs weak.

                    Jackson is NOT a good running back right now. I'm not going to give up on him forever, but I have my long term doubts too. Grant is a decent RB. He's our best chance. The only reason I want Grant out is because I'd rather see Jackson and Morency injured so Grant is healthy for the playoffs.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      If Jackson was better, he'd be starting.
                      I disagree, he got injured, and then Grant played well enough in his absence to win the starting job, but that doesn't mean he's better, the injury has sidelined him as the starter for now, but not for long, one bad game for Grant, and he'll be back in there.
                      That kind of throws this statement into question then:
                      Grant is what he is, but he's not the answer. He's fast, and has had a couple of nice runs, but we need a tougher RB than him,
                      I think Brandon Jackson has the potential to be a great RB as well. When they drafted BJ i was hoping for a Jones Drew or Moroney type of player out the gate. Our o-line is better now than before BJ got hurt as well. I expect to see greater things from both these players going forward! We need a 2 headed monster to keep pace with the Cowboys.

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                      • #26
                        Grant is starting but will not be 100%. Morency and Jackson will be getting more reps today
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                        • #27
                          As already posted, Cole will be getting much of Jolley's reps today. Didn't we draft a rookie DT in the first round this year????
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by b bulldog
                            As already posted, Cole will be getting much of Jolley's reps today. Didn't we draft a rookie DT in the first round this year????
                            Hopefully he's competent next year
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              If Jackson was better, he'd be starting.
                              I disagree, he got injured, and then Grant played well enough in his absence to win the starting job, but that doesn't mean he's better, the injury has sidelined him as the starter for now, but not for long, one bad game for Grant, and he'll be back in there.

                              B. Jackson 2.6 ypc
                              R. Grant 4.3 ypc

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Carolina_Packer
                                Grant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.
                                Nice one. Sherman has already marched to the sea...I mean the Gulf Coast. Good thing we don't have a McLellan; he's REALLY be indecisive about hitting the hole
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