RYAN GRANT

[KYPack]

Grant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.

Nice one. Sherman has already marched to the sea...I mean the Gulf Coast. Good thing we don't have a McLellan; he's REALLY be indecisive about hitting the hole

Whoa, look at the big historical brain on BIM!

This could be a good thread to get us to the gameday thread.

Get up, GBR, yer on!

[BallHawk]

Grant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.

Nice one. Sherman has already marched to the sea...I mean the Gulf Coast. Good thing we don't have a McLellan; he's REALLY be indecisive about hitting the hole

Big props on that one, Maine.

Only on Packerrats can we relate Civil War Generals to a Nebraska RB's running flaws.

[Scott Campbell]

Grant is Herron with a little more speed.

I don't think so.

[b bulldog]

Your selling Grant short with that comment

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've been telling you guys this all year, Jackson is our guy, he needs to get the rest of the starts so he is more experienced with our line for the playoffs. He has much more upside than Grant, he can cutback better without losing power, and he can avoid and run through tackles better. He just needs reps out there with the line to get his groove, the only thing Grant has been doing that he hasn't is seeing no holes and running outside the tackles to turn a no gainer into positive yardage, but Jackson can do that, he just needs more reps. Don't bet against me here, barring injury he will be our starter for years to come and Grant will disappear. He's much stronger and can break tackles better. He seems just a bit slower but has better quickness and jukes. To hell with Grant. He's a backup. Jackson can evolve as a better blocker too, much more strength upper and lower body. Grant is a poor man's Reggie Bush, good speed without the jukes.

What exactly makes you believe this? Do you have some stats on his power or strength. What we do know is that Ryan Grant is bigger.

Ryan Grant has a college track record.

At every level Grant has outperformed BJ.

To compare Grant to Bush is ludicrous.

[The Leaper]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You stand corrected. Yet another 100 yard game, and some great runs. Brandon Jackson might break 3 yards a carry at some point this season if he hops on the back of a Mack truck for a couple carries.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Curtis Enis!!! Loved that guy
Set the Bears back some.


Awfully argumentative in a couple of threads tonight 4and12...shouldn't drink and type, y'know

OK, OK, I just really believe in this guy, he didn't "get a chance" at the beginning of the year, he had to play against the Eagles and Chargers defense. Gimme a break, and he's a rookie. That's my whole point, he needs time to gel with this line, and feel comfortable so he plays with instinct, not fear. He has many more physical tools to be a very good RB than Grant, he's stronger and quicker. Not "faster" but quicker. He needs the rest of the season to be ready for the playoffs, forget homefield throughout, we aren't beating Dallas in Dallas. By the way, aren't you guys sick of the fact that we've played them in Dallas like 10 of the last 11 games we've played them? What the heck? They will beat us at home, and we will be second seed, who cares, let's get our best RB out there and give him an opportunity to shine, Grant IS NOT the answer. I just don't think he's that good. Maybe I'm wrong.

How did Grant jell so fast with this line. Especially since he started doing well almost immediately and didn't even run our scheme with the Giants.

[The Leaper]

B. Jackson 2.6 ypc
R. Grant 4.3 ypc

Make that Grant 4.6 ypc

[BallHawk]

How did Grant jell so fast with this line. Especially since he started doing well almost immediately and didn't even run our scheme with the Giants.

He's pretty smart for a RB. 4.0 GPA at Notre Dame and a 29 on his wonderlic. If you have the brains to understand everybody's role and what has to happen to be successful it makes adjusting to a new scheme a lot easier.

[FritzDontBlitz]

4and12, I' not sure what game you've been watching, but I'll make it easy for you. No way Jackson has has one run that compares to the runs Grant had today against Detroit. Opportunities? Please! When Jackson gets his opportunities he's either shuffling his feet waiting for an opening or running right into his blockers as if he has his eyes closed.

Jackson was drafted as the 3rd down back. I still think he'll be good in that role. But Grant makes the entire offensive line look better, something Jackson could never do when the starting job was handed to him at the beginning of the season. Had Jackson not been injured we might still be waiting on a running game, and we probably wouldn't be 10-1 without one.

Coming out of the draft I had a hard-on for Aaron Rouse and Deshawn Wynn as two players that would come up big for the Packers this years and make TT look like a draft day genius. Wynn hasn't proved anything yet, while Rouse has done well in relief of Collins. Jackson has been a disappointment so far, but I won't give up on him just yet. Grant stepped in, took advantage of the opportunity and has earned the right to be the featured back.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Jackson kinda stinks and I want to see him play more.

(Reminds me of that joke about the restaurant with terrible food but the portions are generous.)

Grant can't do it on his own, he'll wear down. Jackson hasn't been getting enough carries to share the load. I believe in playing the #2. Jackson has had a few decent runs, he can be enough of a threat.

[RashanGary]

I think Jackson kinda stinks and I want to see him play more.

(Reminds me of that joke about the restaurant with terrible food but the portions are generous.)

Grant can't do it on his own, he'll wear down. Jackson hasn't been getting enough carries to share the load. I believe in playing the #2. Jackson has had a few decent runs, he can be enough of a threat.

On the bright side, the Packers only ran 15 times this week. Grant looked strong at the end of this game. I think the Packers offense is going to shine against an average Dallas defense and Grant will be a big part of that.

[Bretsky]

I think Jackson kinda stinks and I want to see him play more.

(Reminds me of that joke about the restaurant with terrible food but the portions are generous.)

Grant can't do it on his own, he'll wear down. Jackson hasn't been getting enough carries to share the load. I believe in playing the #2. Jackson has had a few decent runs, he can be enough of a threat.

On the bright side, the Packers only ran 15 times this week. Grant looked strong at the end of this game. I think the Packers offense is going to shine against an average Dallas defense and Grant will be a big part of that.

I'd agree

For anybody thinking Jackson is the answer I'd say the coaches clearly disagree with you. Yesterday we hardly saw Jackson on offense, and with a banged up ankle Grant looked very capable of being a competent starter.

It still wouldn't surprise me if TT goes a RB high to team up with Grant, but it wouldn't surprise me if TT goes into next year with Grant clearly as the #1 either.

[RashanGary]

I agree, Bretsky. Grant is a pretty good back. I'd be happy if we had two Grants and Jackson for 3rd downs.

[Bretsky]

When I saw TT gave up a 6th round pick at first my jaw dropped because I didn't think he'd ever give up a draft pick.

Knowing how much TT values draft picks and value then I reflected and figured TT thought Grant was worth far far more than what he gave up so I figured Grant was grading out much higher than that.

The evidence so far would support that