I am amazed at how well our scouts know other teams rosters. Wasn't Grant a 4th or 5th stringer in NY?
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He was beat out by Jacobs, Rueben, and Ward, so I think 4th string, though there might of been another RB ahead of Grant.Originally posted by Tarlam!
Good call Bretsky. the pick 6 was a definite indication.
I am amazed at how well our scouts know other teams rosters. Wasn't Grant a 4th or 5th stringer in NY?
I will say, we have some of the best scouts in the league, TT included. Jones, Jennings, Grant, Ruvell, Driver, etc. All of those guys were either unknown or considered to be drafted too high. Now, they're all producing for a 10-1 football team."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Originally posted by BallHawkHe was beat out by Jacobs, Rueben, and Ward, so I think 4th string, though there might of been another RB ahead of Grant.Originally posted by Tarlam!
Good call Bretsky. the pick 6 was a definite indication.
I am amazed at how well our scouts know other teams rosters. Wasn't Grant a 4th or 5th stringer in NY?
I will say, we have some of the best scouts in the league, TT included. Jones, Jennings, Grant, Ruvell, Driver, etc. All of those guys were either unknown or considered to be drafted too high. Now, they're all producing for a 10-1 football team.
To give the scouts their due, TT was interviewed and said they had their eye on the NYG situation. They were quite interested in Derrick Ward and Ryan Grant and seemed to be waiting to see who would get released or come the cheapest after being relegated to the last RBTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I agree with this. I also think it's time to see what Aaron Rodgers can do. Favre's never done much in Dallas anyway. All Rodgers needs is a chance.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4You are right, but it can't rise if it's standing on the sidelines. Put him in the game for the rest of the year, what's it gonna hurt, we're are already gonna get a bye in the playoffs, no matter what RB starts, lets get him experience, he is better than most think, he is stronger and quicker in his cuts, and can break tackles better than Grant. Grant is fast, I will say that, but teams will figure him out, and he's not a starter quality back. He left 80 or more yards on the field against a horrendous defense in Denver, and Jackson is better. Wait and see.Originally posted by Carolina_PackerGrant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.
The cream WILL rise to the top. If Jackson starts bringing it, it won't be invisible or go unnoticed.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I thought he was desperate. I know he hasn't made desperation moves, but I though he finially broke down to the pressure.Originally posted by BretskyWhen I saw TT gave up a 6th round pick at first my jaw dropped because I didn't think he'd ever give up a draft pick.
Knowing how much TT values draft picks and value then I reflected and figured TT thought Grant was worth far far more than what he gave up so I figured Grant was grading out much higher than that.
The evidence so far would support that
You were right though, TT does not fold under pressure. He really is a tight wad and he just thought it was a good, solid move. He didn't just do it because he had to.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I agree. Funny how that works out. The same could probably be said for Donald Lee at TE, Atari Bigby and Aaron Rouse at Safety and Korey Hall at FB.Originally posted by Scott CampbellFunny. I'd rather have Grant than all the legitimate names being thrown out here before the season started.
It's kind of suprising how perfectly every thing has turned out. I'm still amazed at how well these young guys have played, Grant esspecially.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game. I think we had less than five yards rushing at halftime, it was only after we had a sizeable lead and Detroit was playing extra DB's that Grant got his success. I will have to admit that he does makes some runs that I have to rewind and watch over and over in awe, because he immediately sees there is no hole in the gap he is suppose to be running to, and makes a great cut. He had a couple of very impressive runs yesterday!! Runs that maybe Jackson wouldn't have made. I am begginning to believe in this kid a bit more, we'll see what he can do in Dallas."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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5: Would that have to do with z fumble in the first quarter? Or the fact that only 1 running play was called in the first quarter? Or that only 3 running plays in the WHOLE FIRST HALF.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game. I think we had less than five yards rushing at halftime, it was only after we had a sizeable lead and Detroit was playing extra DB's that Grant got his success. I will have to admit that he does makes some runs that I have to rewind and watch over and over in awe, because he immediately sees there is no hole in the gap he is suppose to be running to, and makes a great cut. He had a couple of very impressive runs yesterday!! Runs that maybe Jackson wouldn't have made. I am begginning to believe in this kid a bit more, we'll see what he can do in Dallas.
But, i'm sure that has to do with Grant.
Why would they have extra DBs in when Grant is running? Exact opposite. They brought in DBs when we went 4/5 wide with 1 or no one in the backfield.
I don't know if you understand football, but when you have the lead you are suppose to run. The other team knows you are going to run. So, it is actually harder to run at that time then when the game is close.
Grant didn't get most of his carries till the 4th quarter when we were running the clock out and went semi conservative.
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Originally posted by 4and12to12and4For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game.
The dude has had 3 100 yard games out of the last 5. If he's getting hand jobs, at least he earned them. What has Jackson done to earn your handful of Vaseline?
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Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by 4and12to12and4For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game.
The dude has had 3 100 yard games out of the last 5. If he's getting hand jobs, at least he earned them. What has Jackson done to earn your handful of Vaseline?
You got me there. Hey, I said he had some impressive runs, but my gut just says he's not the answer. I hope I'm wrong. By the way, if he's so damn good, why did we only run in 3 times in the first half? Is MM just a stupid offensive playcaller, or does he understand where his strengths and WEAKNESSES are. I'm just saying, remember Gado, quit the lovefest, he's had some good runs, but he hasn't been Adrian Peterson by any stretch of the imagination. Scott, how did you know I prefer Vaseline?
"...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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We only ran three times in the first half because that was obviously the game plan to attack their weak secondary. And I would say it worked as Favre barely had an incompletion.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by 4and12to12and4For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game.
The dude has had 3 100 yard games out of the last 5. If he's getting hand jobs, at least he earned them. What has Jackson done to earn your handful of Vaseline?
You got me there. Hey, I said he had some impressive runs, but my gut just says he's not the answer. I hope I'm wrong. By the way, if he's so damn good, why did we only run in 3 times in the first half? Is MM just a stupid offensive playcaller, or does he understand where his strengths and WEAKNESSES are. I'm just saying, remember Gado, quit the lovefest, he's had some good runs, but he hasn't been Adrian Peterson by any stretch of the imagination. Scott, how did you know I prefer Vaseline?
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Is that why we run the ball 7 times or less in the first half of EVERY game? Come on. MM knows that the only way we will have success in the run is if we are so successful passing it, that the defense commits to stopping the pass, and then we can run. But, I'm not blaming ANY of our backs for that, it starts with the boys up front, and I think they are going to get their shit together if they stay healthy from here to the playoffs, and we are going to start suprising teams and start getting some nice holes to run through, hopefully right when the playoffs start.Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MDWe only ran three times in the first half because that was obviously the game plan to attack their weak secondary. And I would say it worked as Favre barely had an incompletion.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by 4and12to12and4For all the talk in this thread and hand jobs given out to Grant, you might want to go back and watch Thursdays game.
The dude has had 3 100 yard games out of the last 5. If he's getting hand jobs, at least he earned them. What has Jackson done to earn your handful of Vaseline?
You got me there. Hey, I said he had some impressive runs, but my gut just says he's not the answer. I hope I'm wrong. By the way, if he's so damn good, why did we only run in 3 times in the first half? Is MM just a stupid offensive playcaller, or does he understand where his strengths and WEAKNESSES are. I'm just saying, remember Gado, quit the lovefest, he's had some good runs, but he hasn't been Adrian Peterson by any stretch of the imagination. Scott, how did you know I prefer Vaseline?
"...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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It is entirely possible that Jackson will end up having a better career than Grant. I haven't given up on Jackson. However, there is no doubt that Grant is our best choice right now. You don't worry about developing rookies when you are battling for home field advantage in the playoffs. This offense is rolling, and MM would face a near mutiny if he decided to switch RB's at this time.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4You are right, but it can't rise if it's standing on the sidelines. Put him in the game for the rest of the year, what's it gonna hurt, we're are already gonna get a bye in the playoffs, no matter what RB starts, lets get him experience, he is better than most think, he is stronger and quicker in his cuts, and can break tackles better than Grant. Grant is fast, I will say that, but teams will figure him out, and he's not a starter quality back. He left 80 or more yards on the field against a horrendous defense in Denver, and Jackson is better. Wait and see.Originally posted by Carolina_PackerGrant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.
The cream WILL rise to the top. If Jackson starts bringing it, it won't be invisible or go unnoticed.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Not if Jackson is successful.Originally posted by JoemailmanIt is entirely possible that Jackson will end up having a better career than Grant. I haven't given up on Jackson. However, there is no doubt that Grant is our best choice right now. You don't worry about developing rookies when you are battling for home field advantage in the playoffs. This offense is rolling, and MM would face a near mutiny if he decided to switch RB's at this time.Originally posted by 4and12to12and4You are right, but it can't rise if it's standing on the sidelines. Put him in the game for the rest of the year, what's it gonna hurt, we're are already gonna get a bye in the playoffs, no matter what RB starts, lets get him experience, he is better than most think, he is stronger and quicker in his cuts, and can break tackles better than Grant. Grant is fast, I will say that, but teams will figure him out, and he's not a starter quality back. He left 80 or more yards on the field against a horrendous defense in Denver, and Jackson is better. Wait and see.Originally posted by Carolina_PackerGrant vs. Jackson...sounds Civil War-esque. Just glad there's no more Sherman.
The cream WILL rise to the top. If Jackson starts bringing it, it won't be invisible or go unnoticed."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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