A new job for Sherman

[Bretsky]

As a college coach he won't be able to draft a punter in the 3rd round.

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

[mraynrand]

As a college coach he won't be able to draft a punter in the 3rd round.

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

Or 3/4 of the current starting DL Jenkins, Williams, and Kampman. Hell, in his first two years as GM, Sherman may end up bringing in 4 pro bowlers: Walker, Kampman, Barnett and Harris. Shermy wasted a lot of picks, but he got some high quality guys with what he had. Whether he he has an eye for high school talent begs the question of whether the eye for talent he had as a GM was his, Hatley's or his pro personnel department (esp. Reggie Mckenzie).

[The Leaper]

I think Sherman would do well in the NCAA. Wasn't he a teacher prior to becoming a football coach? I think he would deal with the college kids far better than he dealt with professional athletes.

[RashanGary]

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

I can't thank Sherman for that. The artical came out explaining that his scouts were really high on Kamp. We didn't need a DE at that time, so I'm guessing Sherman ran out of pets to pick and just let the scouts make a pick. I thank the scouts for that one.

I have a hard time giving Sherman credit. His desperation and ineptitude makes me shudder, so even the good things lose their luster.

[GrnBay007]

I'm surprised Sherman hasn't gotten another shot at an NFL job. If stiffs like Dick Jauron and Norv Turner can get another chance, why not him? Sherman's only losing season was one where his offense was decimated by injuries and the loss of his starting guards. Sherman was a fine head coach before he was saddled with the GM job.

I agree. He wasn't a great game day tactical guy but he always had his teams prepared and his x's and o's were solid.

Maybe he will be the Vikings next coach.

[Rastak]

I'm surprised Sherman hasn't gotten another shot at an NFL job. If stiffs like Dick Jauron and Norv Turner can get another chance, why not him? Sherman's only losing season was one where his offense was decimated by injuries and the loss of his starting guards. Sherman was a fine head coach before he was saddled with the GM job.

I agree. He wasn't a great game day tactical guy but he always had his teams prepared and his x's and o's were solid.

Maybe he will be the Vikings next coach.

Umm, no thanks. If you guys take Denny Green I'll agree to take Sherman.

[The Leaper]

Whether he he has an eye for high school talent begs the question of whether the eye for talent he had as a GM was his, Hatley's or his pro personnel department (esp. Reggie Mckenzie).

The bottom line is Sherman missed far more than he hit. He had a couple of drafts that produced almost nothing in terms of starting caliber talent, and most of his FA and trade forays were failures outside of the Al Harris deal. I don't think he had an eye for anything...except the back of his eyelids at the combine.

[RashanGary]

As a college coach he won't be able to draft a punter in the 3rd round.

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

Or 3/4 of the current starting DL Jenkins, Williams, and Kampman. Hell, in his first two years as GM, Sherman may end up bringing in 4 pro bowlers: Walker, Kampman, Barnett and Harris. Shermy wasted a lot of picks, but he got some high quality guys with what he had. Whether he he has an eye for high school talent begs the question of whether the eye for talent he had as a GM was his, Hatley's or his pro personnel department (esp. Reggie Mckenzie).

hahaha, you brag up Sherman like he was some great GM. The guy completely stripped a team in a matter of 4 short years. We have 5 drafted players from his entire stint as GM. Yuck.

Thompson has as many players in one draft (Hawk, Jennings, Colledge, Jolly, Spitz) than Sherman had in 4 years.

Sherman got a couple good players. He gets some credit for not screwing every single pick up. The ultimate judge is the quality of the teams he built. After 4 years, the core of this team was junk and that pretty much describes Shermans job as GM.

Grant
Bigby
Hawk
Spitz
Colledge
Moll
Coston
Tracy White
Rouse
Tramon William
Jennings
Jones
Korey Hall
Donald Lee
John Jolly

and we don't even know how many more good YOUNG players will emerge from the guys TT has assembled through the draft and fringe markets. In a couple years, who knows how many probowler we will have, but one thing is certain, the core of this team will not be completely stripped after 4 years of Ted.

You talk Sherman up, but it is rediculous exaggeration, focusing on the 4 or 5 successes Sherman had, and not comparing it to the 20 or 30 good moves that a decent GM makes in the same amount of time. Puh leeze. Sherman found a couple really good players in 4 years. That is supposed to be good

The career of his 4 best picks does not define Sherman the GM. The state he left the team after having the reigns for 4 years does.

Sherman gets about 15% credit for the team we have today. Very few of his players are left. He gets about 40% credit for last year and 80% credit the year before. Those were his teams. This is Thompsons team.

[jvandehey19]

Welll said JustinHarrell.

[Bretsky]

As a college coach he won't be able to draft a punter in the 3rd round.

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

Or 3/4 of the current starting DL Jenkins, Williams, and Kampman. Hell, in his first two years as GM, Sherman may end up bringing in 4 pro bowlers: Walker, Kampman, Barnett and Harris. Shermy wasted a lot of picks, but he got some high quality guys with what he had. Whether he he has an eye for high school talent begs the question of whether the eye for talent he had as a GM was his, Hatley's or his pro personnel department (esp. Reggie Mckenzie).

hahaha, you brag up Sherman like he was some great GM. The guy completely stripped a team in a matter of 4 short years. We have 5 drafted players from his entire stint as GM. Yuck.

Thompson has as many players in one draft (Hawk, Jennings, Colledge, Jolly, Spitz) than Sherman had in 4 years.

Sherman got a couple good players. He gets some credit for not screwing every single pick up. The ultimate judge is the quality of the teams he built. After 4 years, the core of this team was junk and that pretty much describes Shermans job as GM.

Grant
Bigby
Hawk
Spitz
Colledge
Moll
Coston
Tracy White
Rouse
Tramon William
Jennings
Jones
Korey Hall
Donald Lee
John Jolly

and we don't even know how many more good YOUNG players will emerge from the guys TT has assembled through the draft and fringe markets. In a couple years, who knows how many probowler we will have, but one thing is certain, the core of this team will not be completely stripped after 4 years of Ted.

You talk Sherman up, but it is rediculous exaggeration, focusing on the 4 or 5 successes Sherman had, and not comparing it to the 20 or 30 good moves that a decent GM makes in the same amount of time. Puh leeze. Sherman found a couple really good players in 4 years. That is supposed to be good

The career of his 4 best picks does not define Sherman the GM. The state he left the team after having the reigns for 4 years does.

Sherman gets about 15% credit for the team we have today. Very few of his players are left. He gets about 40% credit for last year and 80% credit the year before. Those were his teams. This is Thompsons team.

I think overall Sherman stunk as a GM.

But JH, you don't give him due credit. From his regime he brought in

Scott Wells
Nick Barnett
Javon Walker...which essentially turned into the pick of D Colledge
Cullen Jenkins
Corey Williams
Al Harris
Aaron Kampman


Those are very key players to our current success.

[Rastak]

As a college coach he won't be able to draft a punter in the 3rd round.

Or a Pro Bowler and one of the best Defensive Lineman in the NFL in the Fifth

Or 3/4 of the current starting DL Jenkins, Williams, and Kampman. Hell, in his first two years as GM, Sherman may end up bringing in 4 pro bowlers: Walker, Kampman, Barnett and Harris. Shermy wasted a lot of picks, but he got some high quality guys with what he had. Whether he he has an eye for high school talent begs the question of whether the eye for talent he had as a GM was his, Hatley's or his pro personnel department (esp. Reggie Mckenzie).

hahaha, you brag up Sherman like he was some great GM. The guy completely stripped a team in a matter of 4 short years. We have 5 drafted players from his entire stint as GM. Yuck.

Thompson has as many players in one draft (Hawk, Jennings, Colledge, Jolly, Spitz) than Sherman had in 4 years.

Sherman got a couple good players. He gets some credit for not screwing every single pick up. The ultimate judge is the quality of the teams he built. After 4 years, the core of this team was junk and that pretty much describes Shermans job as GM.

Grant
Bigby
Hawk
Spitz
Colledge
Moll
Coston
Tracy White
Rouse
Tramon William
Jennings
Jones
Korey Hall
Donald Lee
John Jolly

and we don't even know how many more good YOUNG players will emerge from the guys TT has assembled through the draft and fringe markets. In a couple years, who knows how many probowler we will have, but one thing is certain, the core of this team will not be completely stripped after 4 years of Ted.

You talk Sherman up, but it is rediculous exaggeration, focusing on the 4 or 5 successes Sherman had, and not comparing it to the 20 or 30 good moves that a decent GM makes in the same amount of time. Puh leeze. Sherman found a couple really good players in 4 years. That is supposed to be good

The career of his 4 best picks does not define Sherman the GM. The state he left the team after having the reigns for 4 years does.

Sherman gets about 15% credit for the team we have today. Very few of his players are left. He gets about 40% credit for last year and 80% credit the year before. Those were his teams. This is Thompsons team.

I think overall Sherman stunk as a GM.

But JH, you don't give him due credit. From his regime he brought in

Scott Wells
Nick Barnett
Javon Walker...which essentially turned into the pick of D Colledge
Cullen Jenkins
Corey Williams
Al Harris
Aaron Kampman


Those are very key players to our current success.

Bretsky nails it. If you're going to nail him for his mistakes, don't try and gloss over the stuff he did right.,,,,or pretend it was an accident when something good happened. I thought he was an OK coach, not great and a below average GM but he did have alot of success in the NFL.

[Scott Campbell]

While he managed some success amongst a lot of failures, Shermy's defining moment as a GM was trading up to draft BJ Sander.

IMO.

[Rastak]

While he managed some success amongst a lot of failures, Shermy's defining moment as a GM was trading up to draft BJ Sander.

IMO.

And then to keep him on the roster for a whole year inactive instead of admitting he screwed up. Even coach Shenanigan cut Maurice Clarett after realizing he blew it with a 3rd round pick.

[jvandehey19]

Sherman is history as far as the Packers are concerned. Defend his record as the Packer's Head Coach. Defend his record as the Packer's GM. Whatever makes you happy. He's now helped the Houston Texans to an 11-16 record over two seasons. (After 4-12 his last year in GB.) The Thompson/McCarthy record over the same period is 18-9. I'm happy too.

[Bretsky]

While he managed some success amongst a lot of failures, Shermy's defining moment as a GM was trading up to draft BJ Sander.

IMO.

And as unfair as this may be to me his defining moment as a coach was not going for it against the Eagles on 4th and 1