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**Tyrone Bigguns** · 11-30-2007, 01:06 PM

Mad,

Will you be apologizing if the 3 suspects being detained (and, i'm not saying they did it because the po po grab people all the time) are found to have committed the crime strictly because Taylor was rich.

Targetted because he is rich. That ain't the same as targetted cause he was involved in bad activities.

**MadtownPacker** · 11-30-2007, 07:32 PM

Shut the hell up man. Read Taylor's mother's comments. She aint buying it, why should we?

Taylor's mother on Thursday said she has her own ideas about the death of her son but prefers to keep them to herself and let the police investigation play out.

"It's very hard to say," said Donna Junor. "But I have some thoughts in my mind."

**Tyrone Bigguns** · 11-30-2007, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by MadtownPacker

Shut the hell up man. Read Taylor's mother's comments. She aint buying it, why should we?

Taylor's mother on Thursday said she has her own ideas about the death of her son but prefers to keep them to herself and let the police investigation play out.

"It's very hard to say," said Donna Junor. "But I have some thoughts in my mind."

Oh, now taylor's mom is your source.

Why should we..because they are the police. I see, we should be rolle, thousands of miles away and who hasn't had contact in quite awhile and his mom. Make me laugh.

Well, now they have 4 arrested. And, they have more than ONE confession. All tween the ages of 18-21. Not expecting him to be home.

Again, I ask, will you be apologizing and admitting I was right to withhold judgement of the man. IF THESE FOUR DID IT. Again, i repeat, this could all be trumped up by the police...often they rush to arrest people when they are under pressure.

And, for the rest of the junior dectectives...this is why you don't rush to judgement.

Who is going to man up and admit they rushed to judgement?

**MadtownPacker** · 12-01-2007, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Oh, now taylor's mom is your source.

Why should we..because they are the police. I see, we should be rolle, thousands of miles away and who hasn't had contact in quite awhile and his mom. Make me laugh.

Well, now they have 4 arrested. And, they have more than ONE confession. All tween the ages of 18-21. Not expecting him to be home.

Again, I ask, will you be apologizing and admitting I was right to withhold judgement of the man. IF THESE FOUR DID IT. Again, i repeat, this could all be trumped up by the police...often they rush to arrest people when they are under pressure.

And, for the rest of the junior dectectives...this is why you don't rush to judgement.

Who is going to man up and admit they rushed to judgement?

Sorry puto but I have yet to meet a cop I can really trust. They are just a legalized gang in many cases. When I was growing up and one of the homies got into some shit, his Momma always knew the truth way before the cops did. We knew to ask her about it.

As for apologizing to you, why the hell would I do that? Holding judgement is YOUR choice but it doesn't make you RIGHT. It just means you where too much a lil bitch to put your opinion out there for fear you might be WRONG. Guess not being right would kill you huh? Typical of your type of person.

**Tyrone Bigguns** · 12-01-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by MadtownPacker

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Oh, now taylor's mom is your source.

Why should we..because they are the police. I see, we should be rolle, thousands of miles away and who hasn't had contact in quite awhile and his mom. Make me laugh.

Well, now they have 4 arrested. And, they have more than ONE confession. All tween the ages of 18-21. Not expecting him to be home.

Again, I ask, will you be apologizing and admitting I was right to withhold judgement of the man. IF THESE FOUR DID IT. Again, i repeat, this could all be trumped up by the police...often they rush to arrest people when they are under pressure.

And, for the rest of the junior dectectives...this is why you don't rush to judgement.

Who is going to man up and admit they rushed to judgement?

Sorry puto but I have yet to meet a cop I can really trust. They are just a legalized gang in many cases. When I was growing up and one of the homies got into some shit, his Momma always knew the truth way before the cops did. We knew to ask her about it.

As for apologizing to you, why the hell would I do that? Holding judgement is YOUR choice but it doesn't make you RIGHT. It just means you where too much a lil bitch to put your opinion out there for fear you might be WRONG. Guess not being right would kill you huh? Typical of your type of person.

I agree on the police.

I did put my opinion out there. I put out that those calling him a thug and saying his death was a related to his past behavior was reprehensible and way premature. I never thought he was a bad guy at all. DUI and not being a good employee doesn't make him a thug in my book. Brandishing a gun...again, not thug. Not smart, but in miami/the south, carrying a gun is pretty common.

The fact remains that I was right. I was right about him, and i was right not to speculate, and right not to play junior detective, right not to think that I could figure things out based on scant information. And, those that did, some of there assumptions were very racially based. Assuming he was a thug. From the ghetto. Doing bad things. Yet, none of those were true.

You've seen my posts..you think i'm afraid to put my ass on the line. Get serious.

And, i was right about the internet, etc. Madtown, you will notice that i don't comment on things i don't know about. Discussions of chipsets, cars, stereos, how to build things, hdtv's, etc...I know nothing about..so i say nothing. But, you can bet when i speak on something i have a bit of knowledge or experience in that realm. I'm not saying i'm always right, but i'm not just wildly speculating. If you or others don't like that or the tone i take..well, i could say to bad..or i can work on that. But, you best listen and give pause.

I don't have a problem with you not manning up..you just piled on. Perhaps, next time you will hesitate to do so, especially in regards to me. And, you won't be so quick to base your assumptions on some idiot like Rolle or his mom. Mom. LOL. Have the time mom's think their son's are angels..and have no idea of what is really going on.

**GrnBay007** · 12-01-2007, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

I did put my opinion out there. I put out that those calling him a thug and saying his death was a related to his past behavior was reprehensible and way premature. I never thought he was a bad guy at all. DUI and not being a good employee doesn't make him a thug in my book. Brandishing a gun...again, not thug. Not smart, but in miami/the south, carrying a gun is pretty common.

LOL I'm sorry, how many people carry a handgun for protection ONLY?? Some, sure..but they are usually involved in law enforcement. Thugs, or wanna be thugs carry handguns.

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

The fact remains that I was right. I was right about him, and i was right not to speculate, and right not to play junior detective, right not to think that I could figure things out based on scant information. And, those that did, some of there assumptions were very racially based. Assuming he was a thug. From the ghetto. Doing bad things. Yet, none of those were true.

I'm glad you feel you were right about so much. But guess what.....even you will never know all the details so to state you were RIGHT in all your statements and speculations is BS. I know someone that took a wrap for armed robbery because of gang affiliation. He was guilty of the crime but surely could have gotten a "deal" with a plea bargain had he talked. The point is nobody knows all the details and to go on and on about how right you are is silly.

And, last but not least.....I saw nothing in anyone's opinion, speculation or anything else that was racially based. If you saw that, you were reading into stuff.

**MOBB DEEP** · 12-01-2007, 11:39 PM

soooooo many folks have NO CLUE!!! pretty good 007

**MOBB DEEP** · 12-01-2007, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers

Originally posted by MJZiggy

I think it's the same concept as preachers' kids being the wildest...

That's the stereotype, but generally I don't think that's necessarily the case. See Michael Redd and many others.

i know right...??!!

**MadtownPacker** · 12-02-2007, 11:28 AM

Mobb where you been player????

Preach on!!!

**The Leaper** · 12-02-2007, 11:41 AM

At this point, it appears this is the result of some highly inexperienced kids trying to rob a rich guy. Some things still don't add up to me, and hopefully the truth eventually comes to light. If these guys were certain no one was home, why were the phone lines cut? That doesn't add up. Who informed them Taylor was "rich"? What precisely was the conversation in that instance? Did someone try to get these kids to rob him on purpose? What about the prior robbery? Does that have any connection with these 4 guys who have been arrested?

It doesn't seem he was targeted personally at this point, although he does seem to have been targeted for being a rich guy who wasn't home a lot. There still be a whole lot more that comes out about this. Hopefully, it will tie up some of the loose ends.

**MadtownPacker** · 12-02-2007, 11:45 AM

I just don't get why some kids would break down his door to put a bullet in him. No $$$ to be made doing that.

Unless that is what they where really getting paid for.

And of course they aint gonna say that once caught if they like breathing. So much easier to confess it was a robbery gone bad.

**KYPack** · 12-02-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by The Leaper

At this point, it appears this is the result of some highly inexperienced kids trying to rob a rich guy. Some things still don't add up to me, and hopefully the truth eventually comes to light. If these guys were certain no one was home, why were the phone lines cut? That doesn't add up. Who informed them Taylor was "rich"? What precisely was the conversation in that instance? Did someone try to get these kids to rob him on purpose? What about the prior robbery? Does that have any connection with these 4 guys who have been arrested?

It doesn't seem he was targeted personally at this point, although he does seem to have been targeted for being a rich guy who wasn't home a lot. There still be a whole lot more that comes out about this. Hopefully, it will tie up some of the loose ends.

Taylor's sister tossed a party at the place a few weeks ago. Evidently, some of the kids that robbed the joint knew Taylor's sister and the scuttlebutt from the party was the genisis of the heist.

I think it really was a tragic fuck-up.

Some of the facts that came out early made me think it was payback, but i think that idea is wrong, now.

These youngbloods are just plain runni' wild.

**MadtownPacker** · 12-02-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

The fact remains that I was right. I was right about him, and i was right not to speculate, and right not to play junior detective, right not to think that I could figure things out based on scant information. And, those that did, some of there assumptions were very racially based. Assuming he was a thug. From the ghetto. Doing bad things. Yet, none of those were true.

You've seen my posts..you think i'm afraid to put my ass on the line. Get serious.

And, i was right about the internet, etc. Madtown, you will notice that i don't comment on things i don't know about. Discussions of chipsets, cars, stereos, how to build things, hdtv's, etc...I know nothing about..so i say nothing. But, you can bet when i speak on something i have a bit of knowledge or experience in that realm. I'm not saying i'm always right, but i'm not just wildly speculating. If you or others don't like that or the tone i take..well, i could say to bad..or i can work on that. But, you best listen and give pause.

I don't have a problem with you not manning up..you just piled on. Perhaps, next time you will hesitate to do so, especially in regards to me. And, you won't be so quick to base your assumptions on some idiot like Rolle or his mom. Mom. LOL. Have the time mom's think their son's are angels..and have no idea of what is really going on.

Sorry that people based things on their assumptions. Maybe next time I can just post "100% agree" while quoting your post and we won't have that problem.

When all is said and done I might say you where right but no one is avoiding "manning up". Looking like you are right. But if that changes you might consider "manning up" yourself.

Save the "piling on" cry. Comes off like you displaying weakness. Then I will lose respect for you like I have for Harlan. If the situations applies I will do the same thing that I did this time regardless of if it is you or not.

**Scott Campbell** · 12-02-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by MadtownPacker

Then I will lose respect for you like I have for Harlan.

You had respect for Harlan?

**Jimx29** · 12-02-2007, 02:13 PM

To honor slain Taylor, Redskins use 10 men on first Bills play

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-rememberingtaylor&prov=ap&type=lgns

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