Why they lost

[RashanGary]

yea some of the blame goes to Favre BUTTTTTT the o-line did no favors... He had no time, it was the worse i've seen it all year...

I know the packers have struggled against the 3-4 in the past couple of years, but once they held SD Defensive blitzes in check, I thought they turned a corner... Guess not, the packers need to practice more against the 3-4...

Protection or not, Favre was bombing into triple coverage. No excuse. Rodgers had the same protection and played much better than Favre. That is Favre's problem; he (and his fans) always have an excuse. If he'd jsut man up and accept responsibility maybe he'd stop having the worst games of his career in the biggest games of his career.

[RashanGary]

I hope Favre comes back and clear it up but he's had a lot of bad games in big games. It's a part of his legacy (not in GB but around teh country). It's a pattern. I hope it goes away because we look to have between 1 and 3 big games this year.

I think the best thing that could have happened was Rodgers coming in and out playing him. Favre needs to chill out and play within the system.

[packers11]

JH I do blame Favre on half of it... But comparing Favre and Rodgers in not fair, they play two different ways...

Vick had a shitty O-line but he could make things happen with his feet... Like Rodgers... he was moving around the pocket and running for the first downs...

Favre can not do that, if the O-line doesn't block, he is a sitting duck...

[Fosco33]

yea some of the blame goes to Favre BUTTTTTT the o-line did no favors... He had no time, it was the worse i've seen it all year...

I know the packers have struggled against the 3-4 in the past couple of years, but once they held SD Defensive blitzes in check, I thought they turned a corner... Guess not, the packers need to practice more against the 3-4...

Protection or not, Favre was bombing into triple coverage. No excuse. Rodgers had the same protection and played much better than Favre. That is Favre's problem he (and his fans) always have an excuse. If he'd jsut man up and accept responsibility maybe he'd stop having the worst games of his career in the biggest games of his career.

Rodgers through in double coverage (underthrow) - and a near INT. He had a few overthrows. He had a few ducks as well. But he did scramble alright and gave us an opp to win.

GJ made those drives. Grant getting that 1st down late for 1st and goal - made those drives. Grant and the Oline (and Kuhn) making some blocks - made those drives. I say Rodgers played alright - but nothing special.

[RashanGary]

JH I do blame Favre on half of it... But comparing Favre and Rodgers in not fair, they play two different ways...

Vick had a shitty O-line but he could make things happen with his feet... Like Rodgers... he was moving around the pocket and running for the first downs...

Favre can not do that, if the O-line doesn't block, he is a sitting duck...

Part of being a good QB is being able to capitalize on that. Favre is very good. He's having a great year but he layed another stinker in a big game and with Rodgers coming in and doing better it's hard to give him excuse after excuse. Just don't toss it into triple coverage and everything would have been better.

[The Leaper]

Protection or not, Favre was bombing into triple coverage. No excuse. Rodgers had the same protection and played much better than Favre. That is Favre's problem he (and his fans) always have an excuse. If he'd jsut man up and accept responsibility maybe he'd stop having the worst games of his career in the biggest games of his career.

There was no excuse for Favre's decision making.

There also is no excuse for the playcalling. Running multiple play-action passes was stupid. The Cowboys did not respect the run once on any of those plays...but McCarthy continued to call them. He was running these plays out of 2 WR sets. He abandoned the 4 and 5 WR sets that have been successful recently...and that worked on the first drive of the game.

I don't get the reporters who want to lay the blame entirely on Favre. Sure, he deserves to be blamed for making poor decisions on those plays...but the playcalling was foolish regardless.

When Rodgers got into the game, we stopped seeing stupid play-action passes. We started seeing more 3+ WR sets. We went back to the offense we should have been running the entire game.

I said it before the game. McCarthy had to follow the exact plan the Patriots used...he should have come out with 10 straight passes out of 4 and 5 WR sets. Play action should never have been used once. Favre could've torn apart this defense if you flooded the secondary with receivers. Instead, we tried to be smart and pull a fast one, thinking the Cowboys would be looking for the run. What a pathetically stupid strategy.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers through in double coverage (underthrow) - and a near INT. He had a few overthrows. He had a few ducks as well. But he did scramble alright and gave us an opp to win.

GJ made those drives. Grant getting that 1st down late for 1st and goal - made those drives. Grant and the Oline (and Kuhn) making some blocks - made those drives. I say Rodgers played alright - but nothing special.

If Favre would have gotten the ball to hsi playmakers instead of trying to wing it into triple coverage he could have benefited from teh Packers talented team too. He wanted to do it all himself. That is his M.O., esspecially in big games. YOu have to blame Favre for the bad game. Obviously the defense was just as bad, but Favre should not get any type of a pass on this. Does it mean he sucks? No, it probably doesn't but you have to be worried about how he's goign to play in his next big game. He's done this too often not to.

[Fosco33]

Protection or not, Favre was bombing into triple coverage. No excuse. Rodgers had the same protection and played much better than Favre. That is Favre's problem he (and his fans) always have an excuse. If he'd jsut man up and accept responsibility maybe he'd stop having the worst games of his career in the biggest games of his career.

There was no excuse for Favre's decision making.

There also is no excuse for the playcalling. Running multiple play-action passes was stupid. The Cowboys did not respect the run once on any of those plays...but McCarthy continued to call them. He was running these plays out of 2 WR sets. He abandoned the 4 and 5 WR sets that have been successful recently...and that worked on the first drive of the game.

I don't get the reporters who want to lay the blame entirely on Favre. Sure, he deserves to be blamed for making poor decisions on those plays...but the playcalling was foolish regardless.

When Rodgers got into the game, we stopped seeing stupid play-action passes. We started seeing more 3+ WR sets. We went back to the offense we should have been running the entire game.

I said it before the game. McCarthy had to follow the exact plan the Patriots used...he should have come out with 10 straight passes out of 4 and 5 WR sets. Play action should never have been used once. Favre could've torn apart this defense if you flooded the secondary with receivers. Instead, we tried to be smart and pull a fast one, thinking the Cowboys would be looking for the run. What a pathetically stupid strategy.

Leaper - I said nearly the same thing while watching the game. I guess you and I think alike.

[Fosco33]

Rodgers through in double coverage (underthrow) - and a near INT. He had a few overthrows. He had a few ducks as well. But he did scramble alright and gave us an opp to win.

GJ made those drives. Grant getting that 1st down late for 1st and goal - made those drives. Grant and the Oline (and Kuhn) making some blocks - made those drives. I say Rodgers played alright - but nothing special.

If Favre would have gotten the ball to hsi playmakers instead of trying to wing it into triple coverage he could have benefited from teh Packers talented team too. He wanted to do it all himself. That is his M.O., esspecially in big games. YOu have to blame Favre for the bad game. Obviously the defense was just as bad, but Favre should not get any type of a pass on this. Does it mean he sucks? No, it probably doesn't but you have to be worried about how he's goign to play in his next big game. He's done this too often not to.

I agreed before that he deserves some blame - but just some. The 2 INTs leading to 2 TDs... that's just bad (and some bad luck). Very tough to overcome that and the multiple hits he took (heck, he didn't realize he separated his shoulder until post game because his right arm hurt so much).

You keep mentioning the triple coverage - yes, that was ill advised and a low % chance shot. Tough to ridicule him when he's played that way for a decade and a half and made some great plays too. Wasn't his best game - but wasnt' M3's either.

[RashanGary]

Well guys, I'm off to work. I understand where you guys are coming from, but there is no pass for Favre on this. They were running well. there is no reason not to mix some play action into your run looks. It's something you need to do so every time you like up with a running back, they don't know it's a run.

The playaction wasn't the problem. It was the decisions of Favre. Rodgers ran playaction too and didn't bomb it into triple coverage.

I have a problem with Favre's play in big games. I hope he learned from this. He has to play within the system and make the right decisions to win. Even when we did get bombs this year, it was never into triple coverage. It was within the flow of the game at the right time. He forced it, it's that simple.

[RashanGary]

- but wasnt' M3's either.

bullshit excuse. I wanted to give it too, but the more that comes out, the more it's obvious that Brett had options. He decided to go deep, not McCArthy. Every couple plays have a seam. The QB doesn't have to bomb it every time. I couldn't believe he was doing it and thought it had to be the game plan to keep going deep. I was wrong, the more that comes out from Jennings and MM, the more it's obvous that Brett is really that dumb sometiems. He just tossed it up for grabs because he thinks he can do that in big games. Funny, he hasn't had any good plays in triple coverage all year but he thinks he'll do it in big games.

People can't give criticism to Favre without throwing an excuse at the end. Just say it, he played a shit game. Funny how every big game he plays in, it's always teh offensive coordinator. Favre is the only constant. Different players, different coaches, same result (bombs into triple coverage in big games)

Thats what Favre does. I hope Rodgers gave him a lesson yesterday. Favre is a better QB, but he beats himself with his poor aproach to big games.

[Bossman641]

Just because MM was calling play action does not mean you have to throw it deep. There were plenty of other options both short and intermediate. Favre played like shit, no excuses people.

[RashanGary]

Just because MM was calling play action does not mean you have to throw it deep. There were plenty of other options both short and intermediate. Favre played like shit, no excuses people.

Exactly, on the flea flicker, Jennings was wide open. He looked deflated after Favre bombed it into coverage. That was all Favre. McCarthy called a play taht got Jennings wide open. Favre screwed it up with a bad decsions. That is how they all went down. Favre just wanted to go deep, even if the defense wasn't giving it.

[MadtownPacker]

I have to wonder if Favre was having flashbacks or some shit. He was out of control. If the offense had played up to it's potential we might have been singing a different tune today.

I blame M3 also because he didn't do anything about it. He needed to do his job at that point. He also looked kind of lost until him and ARod got into a rhythm.

[Fosco33]

- but wasnt' M3's either.

bullshit excuse. I wanted to give it too, but the more that comes out, the more it's obvious that Brett had options. He decided to go deep, not McCArthy. Every couple plays have a seam. The QB doesn't have to bomb it ever time.

People can't give criticism to Favre without throwing an excuse at the end. Just say it, he played a shit game. Funny how every big game he plays in, it's always teh offensive coordinator. Favre is the only constant. Different players, different coaches, same result (bombs into triple coverage in big games)

Thats what Favre does.

I guess I'm a part apologist. 4th and 1. 3rd and 1. Cute plays - Favre or not. A few bad drives should get a Mike Holmgren like ass chewing.