Why they lost

[Fosco33]

For the third time, I say Favre deserves some blame - not his best game. Just funny when he makes those decisions and it works out - people ignore it because of the outcome.

[Carolina_Packer]

If our receivers have one of the best RAC's or YAC's in the league, they needed to concentrate on the C part of that, or what leads up to the C. I too was surprised they didn't play to their strength as a first strategy instead of "surprising" Dallas with vertical passing. Surprise, it didn't work!

To the person who said, Favre laid an egg, let's move on...probably the best thing to do. Brett has always seemed to play fine in his career after an injury, sometimes very well. We'll see. We're still in great shape. I'd be happier to be gelling at the exact right time (like in January), because most seasons have ebb and flow.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm glad we got to play them.

Exactly. Like boxers feeling eachother out. We'll find out what kind of game plan genius McCarthy is during the NFC title game - hopefully.

[The Leaper]

Just because MM was calling play action does not mean you have to throw it deep. There were plenty of other options both short and intermediate. Favre played like shit, no excuses people.

Most of the play-action plays I remember came out of 2 WR sets. There weren't a ton of options to throw to. There was probably a deep option and an intermediate option...then maybe the RB or a blocker would release into the flat after the fake.

You can't make a play look like a run and have 4 and 5 different receiving options. Considering the Cowboys did not respect the run one bit, it was unlikely that any of the routes were open.

Then you run a damn flea-flicker? An on-side kick? Did the entire first quarter not have the feeling to you that McCarthy was calling this game as if they only way we could win was through trickery and catching the Cowboys napping?

I'm sorry. Our offense is good enough to TORCH the damn Cowboys straight up. Stop with the trickery and just use what brought you to the damn dance.

[FritzDontBlitz]

For the third time, I say Favre deserves some blame - not his best game. Just funny when he makes those decisions and it works out - people ignore it because of the outcome.

Considering the fact the first 15 plays of every game in the WCO are scripted, you do have to wonder what M3 drew up. Favre wasn't in for more than 20 plays was he?

But yeah, I think he let the "0 and 8 at Texas Stadium" thing go to his head. And M3 should have benched him for a series if that was the case.

Yes. He should have benched Brett Favre.

I'm a serious Favre fanatic, but at the very least M3 should have been in his face on a "WTF was that??" tirade. Something. Anything.

Funny thing is, M3 was probably afraid to pull him because he might have expected A-Rod to do worse. I know I sure did. But, A-Rod rose to the challenge and at least made a game of it. Rodgers' inspiring play also showed that if M3 was sticking to the same gameplan he gave Brett at the outset it obviously wasn't a strategy issue, which puts the first quarter debacle squarely in Favre's lap.

I hope A-Rod's play last night at least gives M3 enough guts to pull Brett the next time he loses it, ignores the plan and starts throwing it up for grabs like he used to do prior to McCarthy's arrival. Rest assured, other teams will be trying to duplicate what Dallas did last night; M3 better be ready to make a move if Favre falls back on his old bad habits again.

I don't really see any shame in benching him myself. I would rather see Favre benched than see him self-destruct, because its very painful for any fan to watch when he does...

[b bulldog]

Nick by what your posting you'd think KGB was the next coming of 92. our D, the last three games, has been playing at a lesser level.

[Bossman641]

Just because MM was calling play action does not mean you have to throw it deep. There were plenty of other options both short and intermediate. Favre played like shit, no excuses people.

Most of the play-action plays I remember came out of 2 WR sets. There weren't a ton of options to throw to. There was probably a deep option and an intermediate option...then maybe the RB or a blocker would release into the flat after the fake.

You can't make a play look like a run and have 4 and 5 different receiving options. Considering the Cowboys did not respect the run one bit, it was unlikely that any of the routes were open.

Then you run a damn flea-flicker? An on-side kick? Did the entire first quarter not have the feeling to you that McCarthy was calling this game as if they only way we could win was through trickery and catching the Cowboys napping?

I'm sorry. Our offense is good enough to TORCH the damn Cowboys straight up. Stop with the trickery and just use what brought you to the damn dance.

Jennings was wide open on the flea flicker.

You want to call the onside kick cute, I'll call it gutsy. If they saw something on the returns they thought they could exploit, why not give it a chance? It's like the fake punt they ran earlier this year. If it works the coach is a genius, if it fails he is an idiot. 99% of the time it's that black and white. For us it was neither, only a 5 yard penalty. The thing is, that play WOULD have worked too. There was nobody near the ball. If the ball didn't bounce up and hit Kuhn in the arm we would have recovered no question. Unfortunately, he was concentrating too hard on taking out his man.

[b bulldog]

tHE PLAY WAS TOTALLY THERE, PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION

[Joemailman]

The deep throws made no sense especially when you consider the injury situation on defense. If ever there was a night where the Packers needed to play ball-control, it was last night. Scoring touchdowns is obviously important, but keeping the Dallas offense off the field was nearly as important. There are lessons to be learned from this game, and my observation has been that McCarthy doesn't keep repeating mistakes. Therefore, I'm frustrated about last night, but still optimistic about the rest of the season.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I have to wonder if Favre was having flashbacks or some shit. He was out of control. If the offense had played up to it's potential we might have been singing a different tune today.

I blame M3 also because he didn't do anything about it. He needed to do his job at that point. He also looked kind of lost until him and ARod got into a rhythm.

Madtown, I was having flashbacks! God I hate Dallas! That's what makes this so tough. That bunch of cowgirls is nothing but arrogance personified. After the game TO talked like he was God's gift to football. Never once credited the Packers for anything.

And did you catch their head coach in the locker room after the game? About as inspiring as constipation. These girls will get their comeuppance before the season ends. Somebody's going to knock them off. Let's see what they do when the injury bug hits them.

One year the NFL will schedule them to play in Green Bay and we'll wipe the smirk off of TO and "America's team."

(Sorry, this post got away from me! )

[Freak Out]

I have to wonder if Favre was having flashbacks or some shit. He was out of control. If the offense had played up to it's potential we might have been singing a different tune today.

I blame M3 also because he didn't do anything about it. He needed to do his job at that point. He also looked kind of lost until him and ARod got into a rhythm.

Madtown, I was having flashbacks! God I hate Dallas! That's what makes this so tough. That bunch of cowgirls is nothing but arrogance personified. After the game TO talked like he was God's gift to football. Never once credited the Packers for anything.

And did you catch their head coach in the locker room after the game? About as inspiring as constipation. These girls will get their comeuppance before the season ends. Somebody's going to knock them off. Let's see what they do when the injury bug hits them.

One year the NFL will schedule them to play in Green Bay and we'll wipe the smirk off of TO and "America's team."

(Sorry, this post got away from me! )

Winners get to talk trash....Witten getting in Hawks face talking trash...TO..and Romo in a press conference making wise ass comments about Favre not finishing the game. They've been beat before and they will get beat again. Did anyone ask TO about Harris taking the ball away from him? I missed him holding court after the game.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Freak Out, better you didn't see Eldorado holding court. The guy's a classless prick.

[RashanGary]

For the third time, I say Favre deserves some blame - not his best game. Just funny when he makes those decisions and it works out - people ignore it because of the outcome.

Do you realize that Favre hasn't made many of these bone headed plays. Think back to all of the bombs.

- Jennings in SD got behind a 1 safety look on the sideline
- Jones got behind Bailey in a one safety look down the sideline
- Jennings bot behind Bly on a one safety look on the sideline
- I don't remember the defense on Drivers, but he was behind it

I can only think of a couple throws in coverage that were fantastic in coverage, and they was over the corner, under the safety on sail routes or outroutes from the slot reciever. Pay attn. Favre hasn't been doing stupid shit this year and they are winning. In fact, it's a bit of a myth that Favre does to stupid shit. When he was young the threw it in tight windows, but Favre has never made a living being an idiot. He's mostly tarnished his big game legacy by it.

[b bulldog]

he made all kinds of those throws against the Skins but other than that he has been pretty patient.

[RashanGary]

Yep, and you listen to the post game, Jennings said that was Brett deciding to go deep. He said it wasn't the game plan.

Favre deserves all the credit for doing what he's done in big games over the last 10 years. The bigger the game, the more INT's and the more choking you can expect. I really hope he plays like he plays in the regular games in the big ones, but it seems like he just panics and can't control himself in a big game.