McCain kicking major ass

[Harlan Huckleby]

G.O.P. Voters, in Big Shift, Favor McCain Over His Rivals

I am amazed how far out ahead McCain has jumped in favorability ratings. He's gonna be tough to beat.
Huckabee also running strong.

[The Leaper]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

I am amazed how far out ahead McCain has jumped in favorability ratings. He's gonna be tough to beat.
Huckabee also running strong.

He's someone you can trust...and I think that will go a long way in this election. If you truly want change, you have to put someone in who you trust to actually MAKE the change. Democrats found that out the hard way in the 2006 election...lots of promises, little follow-through.

Clinton, Giuliani and Romney are candidates people really don't trust very much. Obama and Huckabee don't have the experience on the national stage to know if they are truly trustworthy. Only McCain is someone with a vast history of sticking to his guns, both on and off the political stage.

It will be an interesting race to follow once the Packers season is finished.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I hope Mitt Romney wins in Michigan, Fred Thompson wins in South Carolina, and Guiliani wins in Florida.

None of these scenarios are impossible, altho Thompson is a stretch.

The longer the republican race is a mess, the more I hear republicans say all their candidates are no damn good. Music to my ears.

[The Leaper]

I hope Mitt Romney wins in Michigan, Fred Thompson wins in South Carolina, and Guiliani wins in Florida.

Romney has to win in Michigan to gain momentum, or he is done.

Thompson...I just don't see how he wins any state outside of TN.

Giuliani needs to do more than win FL...he needs to win Florida convincingly.

By Feb 5, it will be a 3 horse race in the GOP...Huckabee and McCain I think are in it for the long haul, and Giuliani will be hoping for a Super Tuesday victory to stay in the game.

In the end, I think McCain is the likely winner. Giuliani and Romney supporters are more likely to side with McCain than Huckabee...IMO.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I agree with your points.

Romney is leading all the polls in Michigan, he has a good shot.

I'm a little surprised that Thompson doesn't have more appeal. He's a conservative republican without any glaring vulnerabilities, I'd think the mainstream Rush Limbaugh types would rally around him as the least bad option. Not sure how he is polling in S.C., but he has placed his hopes on that state.

Looks like it will be McCain in the end.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Personally, I'm not enamored with any candidate on either side. Every one of these candidates has warts. Obama gives good speeches, and most Dems want him to win, but he's less than stellar in debates and he has little experience. Hilary is the great divider. Edwards is pathetic. None of the other Dem candidates are viable. Guliani did a good job as mayor of NYC, but I disagree with him on a lot of issues. Huckabee and Romney just haven't grabbed my attention. McCain might be the least worst candidate--because I feel I can trust him. None of the other Republican candidates are viable.

[The Leaper]

I'm a little surprised that Thompson doesn't have more appeal. He's a conservative republican without any glaring vulnerabilities, I'd think the mainstream Rush Limbaugh types would rally around him as the least bad option.

He's been incredibly boring for the most part, and waited way too long to get in the race.

Thompson's two strong points (old voters, evangelicals) were countered by McCain and Huckabee...who both have shown more energy and vitality to this point.

I think Thompson also finds it hard to connect with common Americans. He's a former actor and has a wife who is like 35 years younger than him. Most people can't identify with that.

Huckabee is a guy who used to be fat and has a wife who is exceedingly plain, but motherly. Most Americans can identify with that.

Limbaugh's crowd falls into 2 categories...business men (who probably are mostly in the Romney and Giuliani camp) or housewives (who are probably split between McCain, Huckabee and Thompson). The audience really isn't as conservative as most would think...many evangelicals think Limbaugh's act is too over the top at times, and that he has lost touch with the average American after years of hobnobbing with the elites.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Thompson's late entry didn't matter a bit. Hell, a candidate could practically enter the race NOW! Thompson started out with lots of support, but faded because of his lack of charisma. But I think he is under-rated, he's a smart guy, just a bit quiet. He did rip Huckabee a colorful new asshole at the last debate, I thought.

Don't know about Limbaugh's audience, but his message is the voice of the old guard republicans, especially upper income people. He attacks anybody who lacks ideological purity. He attacked McCain's character in 2000, now turns his guns on Huckabee. Seems like Limbaugh is quite out of step with the public this year.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

I am amazed how far out ahead McCain has jumped in favorability ratings. He's gonna be tough to beat.
Huckabee also running strong.

He's someone you can trust...and I think that will go a long way in this election. If you truly want change, you have to put someone in who you trust to actually MAKE the change. Democrats found that out the hard way in the 2006 election...lots of promises, little follow-through.

Clinton, Giuliani and Romney are candidates people really don't trust very much. Obama and Huckabee don't have the experience on the national stage to know if they are truly trustworthy. Only McCain is someone with a vast history of sticking to his guns, both on and off the political stage.

It will be an interesting race to follow once the Packers season is finished.

Trust? How can we trust someone when you can't figure out what they stand for.

Good ol' Weathervane McCain.

1. 99 he was pro life, but wouldn't support a repeal of roe v wade.The new McCain completely disagrees with the old McCain.

2. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

3. McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course.

4. McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. Later abandoned his own legislation.

5. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

6. McCain has voted against a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but last fall, regarding his own state, he supported an Arizona referendum that would have banned gay marriage.

7. McCain in 2006 suggested that creationism was not a fit topic for the schoolroom: "I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." But he suggested the opposite in 2005 ("all points of view should be presented"), and he was the keynote speaker at a confab sponsored by the Discovery Institute, a prominent creationism advocacy group.


How about some selected quotes:

WAR ON IRAQ

MCCAIN: I believe that success will be fairly easy. (9/24/2002, CNN)

MCCAIN: I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time. (9/29/2002, CNN)

MCCAIN: Easy.

Easy.

It was easy. (1/10/2007, MSNBC)

MCCAIN: The American people ... were led to believe that this would be some kind of a day at the beach which many of us, uh, fully understood from the very beginning would be a very, very difficult undertaking. (8/22/2006, CNN)

MCCAIN: I knew it was probably going to be long and hard and tough. And those that voted for it and thought that somehow it was going to be some kind of an easy task, then I'm sorry they were mistaken. Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. (1/4/2007, MSNBC)

GAY MARRIAGE

MCCAIN: Straight talk.

MATTHEWS: Should gay marriage be allowed? (10/18/2006, MSNBC Hardball)

MCCAIN: I think, I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing if you want to call it that. (10/18/2006, MSNBC Hardball)

MCCAIN: I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal. [BOOS] (10/18/2006, MSNBC Hardball)

STEPHANOPOULOUS: Are you against civil unions for gay couples?

MCCAIN: I am not. I believe, but they, that, that (11/19/2006, ABC News: This Week with George Stephanopoulos)

Oh, yeah. And a little thing called the keating 5.

McCain has sold his soul to win this election.

[The Leaper]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

Trust? How can we trust someone when you can't figure out what they stand for.

It's all relative Bigguns.

Obviously, no one in politics is anywhere close to 100% trustworthy. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in politics.

Quotes also can be taken out of context. In terms of the Iraq war, the actual overthrow of Saddam's regime WAS easy. The hard part was going to be the rebuilding and reconstruction of a new government in a region that is unstable and hostile to democracy by and large. What was McCain actually referring to in his quotes? You need the whole context, not just some cut and paste job.

[MJZiggy]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

It's all relative Bigguns.

Obviously, no one in politics is anywhere close to 100% trustworthy. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in politics.

I don't know. I'm well acquainted with the long-time former mayor of New Holstein and she is one of the most trustworthy people I know.

[The Leaper]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

I don't know. I'm well acquainted with the long-time former mayor of New Holstein and she is one of the most trustworthy people I know.

I'm talking national politics.

Local politicians actually do their jobs most of the time, because they face their constituents every day. People who go to Washington lose touch very quickly.

[MJZiggy]

Re: McCain kicking major ass

I don't know. I'm well acquainted with the long-time former mayor of New Holstein and she is one of the most trustworthy people I know.

I'm talking national politics.

Local politicians actually do their jobs most of the time, because they face their constituents every day. People who go to Washington lose touch very quickly.

I know. I'm just giving you shit.

[red]

i'm a dem and want obama to win it all, and i absolutely hate the right

but McCain is a republican i think i would be able to put up with. he seems like a stand up guy and someone who will not continue to embarrass this country

also, if we're going to be stuck in non stop wars, it wouldn't be bad to have a guy thats actually been in one and has a clue as to what's really going on over there

[Freak Out]

FUBAR. Tear it all down.