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  • Originally posted by Joemailman
    I could see a Clinton Obama ticket. It would help to make sure that the new young Obama supporters will show up on election day. Obama is young enough to wait another 8 years run for President, at which point he would be the Dem front-runner.
    I'm guessing Obama would take one look at what happened to Al Gore and say "no thanks" to the idea of riding in the back seat of the Hillarymobile.

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    • What is most amazing is that around $1 billion dollars will be spent by all candidates in the process of becoming the next president to get a $400,000 dollar a year job. That is gov't math. Sure, there are a lot of perks that come with being the president during and after their term, but I would never want that job.

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      • I LOVED seeing McCain kick Romney's ass.


        McCain has to be the front runner in the general election too. So many independants will vote for McCain and conservatives really don't have a choice.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by LL2
          Sure, there are a lot of perks that come with being the president

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          • Originally posted by hoosier
            I'm guessing Obama would take one look at what happened to Al Gore and say "no thanks" to the idea of riding in the back seat of the Hillarymobile.
            ?? What happened to poor Al? He lost the election all on his own.

            the theory I heard is that Obama would much rather become governor of Illinois than Vice President. It would be better for his career.

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            • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              I LOVED seeing McCain kick Romney's ass.
              It was McCain & Huckabee in strategic alliance that kicked Romney's ass. I would rather see whether the majority of voters prefer McCain.

              Mitt is not somebody easy to love. I bet when his dog runs away from home he stays there.

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman
                I don't see a Obama/Clinton ticket. I just don't see her being anyone's VP. I think she'd rather be Senate majority leader. I think Obama would probably pick someone with a lot of foreign policy experience. Joe Biden perhaps.
                both tickets are unlikely in that the chances of BOTH parties agreeing to it are a stretch.

                I think Hillary would be very good at the VP job, she is well respected in Congress, and Obama would benefit from her knowledge and savy. I would be nearly as happy with her at VP than P, in some ways an Obama-Clinton ticket is the ideal.

                The VP job is not the pit that used to be.

                I want to believe that Hillary & Barrak might suck it up for the benefit of the country and the Democratic Party. And I doubt the acrimony between them is permanent, I bet there is more grudging respect than anything else. Silly me.

                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Obama would probably pick someone with a lot of foreign policy experience. Joe Biden perhaps.
                I hope that either or Obama or Clinton will name Biden Secretary of State. That suits his personality best.

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                • If I had to put my money on who's goiong to be the next pres right now, I'd bet McCain.

                  He's a staunch pro life candidate. The number of people who vote on abortion is substantial IMO.

                  He's better with taxes than the lib so conservatives will have no choice but to vote for him.

                  I think he'll take the latino vote or at least split it with the lib.

                  He's a free thinker, not a party guy and I think many independants love that attitude.

                  He's an older guy. I think baby boomers will respect him more than Obama just for age and race issues. Right or wrong, I don't think people vote on issues as much as impressions.

                  He's very strong on war. Seems to me that we have a culture were many people have a "don't take shit" attitude and a "lets go to war if you don't like it" way about us. I could see many people loving his hard ass attitude.


                  Bottom line, Obama and Clinton are going to get black voters, a few women, gay people and people who want free health care but many of them need free health care because they don't have any ambition to make anything happen so they'll probably forget to register or not know where to vote and miss it anyway.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • JustinHarrell, I like the cut of your jib. No mincing of words from you.

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                    • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      If I had to put my money on who's goiong to be the next pres right now, I'd bet McCain.

                      He's a staunch pro life candidate. The number of people who vote on abortion is substantial IMO.

                      He's better with taxes than the lib so conservatives will have no choice but to vote for him.

                      I think he'll take the latino vote or at least split it with the lib.

                      He's a free thinker, not a party guy and I think many independants love that attitude.

                      He's an older guy. I think baby boomers will respect him more than Obama just for age and race issues. Right or wrong, I don't think people vote on issues as much as impressions.

                      He's very strong on war. Seems to me that we have a culture were many people have a "don't take shit" attitude and a "lets go to war if you don't like it" way about us. I could see many people loving his hard ass attitude.


                      Bottom line, Obama and Clinton are going to get black voters, a few women, gay people and people who want free health care but many of them need free health care because they don't have any ambition to make anything happen so they'll probably forget to register or not know where to vote and miss it anyway.
                      First, the conservatives don't like moderates. I know many conservatives that will not vote McCain. Perhaps you haven't noticed the virulent attacks on McCain from Rush.

                      Even coulter said Clinton is more conservative than her.

                      Pro life: umm, i don't know how old you are, but before you post you should really know the candidates and their positions. In 99 he said he was opposed to overturning Roe Vs. Wade. Now he wants an amendment and it overturned.

                      Taxes: he was opposed to the bush tax cut, now he is for them.

                      Christian right: Opposed Falwell as agent of intolerance, now is cozying up to them.

                      Latino vote: You are insane. The latinos aren't stupid..and i live in a state with tons. They know the repub position..regardless of what McCain says. McCain is part of the Repub party. The party has betrayed latinos.

                      And, if McCain does push amnesty, he loses all those repubs who are against it.

                      Plenty of voters will sit out this vote if gets the nomination.

                      Independents: Clearly that favors Obama more than anyone else.

                      Free thinker: Far fewer independents to counter the massive fall out from conservatives. A man with no principle beliefs. Dems should not only criticize McCain’s constantly evolving opinions on nearly everything, they should openly mock him for it now, so that the storyline becomes second nature (like the GOP did with “serial exaggerator” Al Gore).


                      Ethanol: Pro, was against. Hello flip flop.

                      War: You really think independents are going to vote to stay in Iraq? McCain has backed off his previous statements that he would withdraw troops..now no withdrawl. LOL

                      Economy: While no candidate, except Romney, is really any better, the economy is most likely going to be in the dumper or close to it come election time. That is bad news for the incumbent party.

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                      • Nationalized health care is the liberal issue of today. Turning 10-15% of the economy over to the govt is a bigger deal than anything Ann Coulter's little tirade was based in.

                        conservatives will come around. They're doing everything they can to get a true blue, but since the winner isn't one, they'll come around.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          It was McCain & Huckabee in strategic alliance that kicked Romney's ass.
                          Huck, you are delusional.

                          If the races were 35%-35% between McCain and Romney with Huckabee getting 20% of the vote, I could see your point. However, most of the tight races yesterday were between McCain and Huckabee...with Romney bringing up the rear.

                          Romney is hurting Huckabee just as much as Huckabee is hurting Romney. Both are spliting the anti-McCain vote...it just depends which area you are talking about as to which candidate gets those votes. In more liberal areas (northeast) Huckabee hurts Romney. In more conservative areas (south) Romney hurts Huckabee.

                          The bottom line is that neither Romney or Huckabee has the base to challenge McCain. Romney only has the fiscal conservatives in his corner (because he's a rich guy who is part of the "club") and Huckabee only has the social conservatives in his corner (because he's a minister and regular joe). The fiscal conservatives won't vote for Huckabee, and the social conservatives won't vote for Romney.
                          My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                          • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            Nationalized health care is the liberal issue of today. Turning 10-15% of the economy over to the govt is a bigger deal than anything Ann Coulter's little tirade was based in.

                            conservatives will come around. They're doing everything they can to get a true blue, but since the winner isn't one, they'll come around.
                            Really, if they came around, why didn't they get on Romney's bandwagon?

                            There are plenty of conservatives that wouldn't vote for Guiliani and said so. You are confusing economic conservatives with social value conservatives.

                            Do you think the southern voters are voting for Huckabee based on his econ policy?

                            McCain is a joke..and as someone who lives in AZ..the shit will hit the fan when he gets the nomination.

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                            • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Even coulter said Clinton is more conservative than her.
                              Which is a ridiculous notion.

                              McCain has a lifetime 83% ACU rating in the senate.

                              Hillary Clinton has a 9% rating.

                              Ann Coulter has the brain the size of a split pea.
                              My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                              • Originally posted by The Leaper
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Even coulter said Clinton is more conservative than her.
                                Which is a ridiculous notion.

                                McCain has a lifetime 83% ACU rating in the senate.

                                Hillary Clinton has a 9% rating.

                                Ann Coulter has the brain the size of a split pea.
                                That large?

                                Of course it is ridiculous, but the point wasn't whether it was accurate and truthful (if that was the case, Coulter wouldn't have a career), it was to show the conservative mindset towards McCain.

                                Pretty funny when conservatives are imploring Rush to back off. LOL

                                I wouldn't even grudge fuck that bitch.

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