Wisconsin Primary

[Harlan Huckleby]

By the way Harlan, you spelled Huckabee as Hucklebee. A Freudian slip?

ya, I started to see a lot of myself in Huckabee when I heard that he cooked squirrel in a popcorn popper.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder how many will vote for Obama just to piss of Harlan.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder how many will vote for Obama just to piss of Harlan.

[Harlan Huckleby]

well, you voted twice. but your vote was predictable.

[Scott Campbell]

I can't vote in Wisconsin.

[b bulldog]

I will vote for Obama so Hill doesn't win WI. I am a conervative who is lukewarm on McCain but I don't hate him as many do. In regards to VP nominees for McCain, I wouldn't mind Joe Leiberman but really don't think that will happen, Huckaby would be very strong in the south as would Fred Thompson, Mitt won't be it imo cause he doesn't play well in the south either. McCain will have to pick a conservative who can play well in Ohio, pennsylvania and Missouri. Those three states along with an obvious state in Florida, will be the key states again.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I will vote for Obama so Hill doesn't win WI. I am a conervative who is lukewarm on McCain but I don't hate him as many do.

Aren't open primaries swell?

There is only one thing dumber than an open primary, and that's a caucus.

In caucuses, you only get about 10 to 25% participation of the party members. Obama has won 14 out of 15 caucuses because of the passion of his followers, and his superior money and organization. Similarly, Ron Paul would do disproportionately well in caucuses if he just had enough support to meet thresholds. Oh ya, thresholds, another undemocratic thing about caucuses.

Caucuses are bullshit, pure and simple. They are designed to put the wishes of the party faithful, the intelligensia, above that of the unwashed masses, much like the electoral college. Hogwash - just have a damn, transparent primary election where you can see exactly who the people support. Busy people who are not political junkies count too.

[BallHawk]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

All he has to do is help McCain win Florida, and he has done more than ANY VP has done for the ticket in 48 years.

[BallHawk]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

All he has to do is help McCain win Florida, and he has done more than ANY VP has done for the ticket in 48 years.

Good point.

[MJZiggy]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

I misread that as "I doubt Christ would be chosen..."

[BallHawk]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

I misread that as "I doubt Christ would be chosen..."

Believe me, there are a ton of people down here who think our governor's name is Christ.

[Joemailman]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

All he has to do is help McCain win Florida, and he has done more than ANY VP has done for the ticket in 48 years.

Bush won Florida pretty handedly in 2004. I think that stays Republican anyway. The danger zone for the Republicans are states like Iowa and Ohio which went Republican in 2004, but not by much. The Republican party in Ohio is in shambles largely due to corruption.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's starting. The most likely scenario looks like a close election, with Obama perhaps having more pledged delegates, and Clinton, so far at least, looking stronger with the super delegates.

Yesterday, Obama made a statement that if the super delegates voted contrary to the pledged delegates, "it would be problematic for the political insiders to overturn the judgment of the voters."

Translation: Obama and his followers will consider it corruption if Clinton wins because of her edge with super delegates!

BUT IF THE SUPER DELEGATES CAN ONLY LEGITIMATELY FOLLOW THE WISHES OF THE ELECTED DELEGATES, THAN WHY WERE THEY CREATED!!??

The truth is the Super Delegates are an undemocratic mechanism by which party elites retain more power than the voters. Just like the caucuses. But Obama is fine with caucuses, because they are working dramatically in his favor.

Donna Brazile, a black (translation:Obama supporter) pundit on ABC TV stated today that she will quit the Democratic Party if the super delegates don't favor the same candidate as the pledged delegates. Ridiculous. She herself is a Super Delegate because she managed Al Gore's 2000 campaign.
Brazile said she wants Super Delegates to hold-off on announcing their support. Well, so far the announcements have gone Clinton's way, and Brazile wants them to wait until they are pressured by the likely Obama edge in pledge delegates.

The Obama blogs are talking like the Clinton Machine is at it again: "Super delegates choosing the nominee would be a complete perversion of this process." http://donklephant.com/2008/02/09/wh...tes-decide-it/

Add to all this the mess of the undecided delegates from Michigan & Florida. This is stomach churning. The Democratic Party is going to implode. This is not interesting or healthy, it's a horrible system much like the Florida 2000 voting infrastructure. A crappy system only works when the winner is far ahead.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bush won Florida pretty handedly in 2004. I think that stays Republican anyway. The danger zone for the Republicans are states like Iowa and Ohio

Florida looks in play this year. The Democrats had more people turn out for their primary, and that was for an election that didn't count! The Republican primary was hotly contested.