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Get LCD over plasma. It's a technology that is here to stay in terms of flat panels. 1080p is good for over 50". Waste of money for less, but most TV's come with 1080p nowadays anyway.

I don't consider that very good advice.

What would you recommend? Plasma is a pain in the ass with its break-in period. LCD technology is only getting better and better. I would probably get the 1080p regardless of size because it will be a newer panel and thus nicer TV.

Breakin period has been an old wives tale for a long time with plasma. I wouldn't recommend a tv without knowing exactly how its going to be used first. Room size, viewing distance, lighting....all the usual questions you ask before picking one technology over another.

I've got 2 LCD 1080p sets, and while they're nice, they can't touch my 720p plasma or my 1080i rear projection CRT as televisions. But my LCD's work very well in their applications doubling as desktops.

Pannie still recommends breaking in their Panels on the 70u and 77u if I remember correctly. Typically I like DLP but am moving more towards a flat-panel approach as they look a lot better. I agree it depends on lighting and what it is being used for, but LCD is pretty solid across the board. Maybe if you're in a room with tons of ambient light the Plasma would make a pretty big difference.

[MadtownPacker]

The 67" Samsung DLP laughs at any panochas who oppose 1080p.

Did you really need all 67 inches? Are you watching TV from your garage?

Nah, Im just compensating for my above average chorizo.

[twoseven]

The 67" Samsung DLP laughs at any panochas who oppose 1080p. I invited King Kong over to watch TV and he thought it was just right. Thanks for the recommendation Campbell. At this point there is no reason to buy one that aint full HD.

27 - You might die tomorrow, better enjoy what little life you might have left. Treat yourself right.

I tossed out a Sony 35 inch trinitron glass tube 1 1/2 years ago in favor of a 42" plasma Hitachi Ultravision. I swore I would never buy another TV that weighed over 100 lbs or was as bulky as the old TVs. That's the main reason I have avoided DLP, that and the fear of one of the million mirrors or moving parts inside malfunctioning (a friend just had it happen). Will probably stay plasma on this next one, but thanks for the advice Mad.

[twoseven]

are you nerds still talking about electronic gadgets?

Maybe we should start talking about pacemakers and penile implants so you can join in, care to tell us how long you've had yours?

[twoseven]

Breakin period has been an old wives tale for a long time with plasma. I wouldn't recommend a tv without knowing exactly how its going to be used first. Room size, viewing distance, lighting....all the usual questions you ask before picking one technology over another.

I've got 2 LCD 1080p sets, and while they're nice, they can't touch my 720p plasma or my 1080i rear projection CRT as televisions. But my LCD's work very well in their applications primarily as desktop displays.

I'm sitting about 9-10 feet away currently, could nudge the couches back to close to 12 foot at best without rearranging entire room, DO NOT want to do that. So I am thinking somewhere in the 50 inch range is actually pushing it. Current HDTV is 42" plasma Hitachi Ultravision. That would be getting moved to the bedroom and replaced by whatever I get next. I am thinking plasma and am going to press for 1080p capable, other than that I am totally up for suggestions. Watch more sports and regular TV than movies, plenty of gaming that looks to increase quite a bit as my 4 and 6 year olds get more into it (you can kill yourself now Harlan). Also I assume most every HDTV you can buy is carrying minimum 3 HDMI slots these days, I would want 4-5 ideally (just in case Nintendo gives up on the cartoony graphics through the red/white/yellow cords and gets with the HD program next time around), or go with the HDMI connector box I guess. I'm not buying this new toy at Sears, either. Best Buy, Circuit City, or Ultimate Electronics look to be best outlets.

[Harlan Huckleby]

are you nerds still talking about electronic gadgets?

Maybe we should start talking about pacemakers and penile implants so you can join in, care to tell us how long you've had yours?

I find the pump to be a very fine product.

[twoseven]

are you nerds still talking about electronic gadgets?

Maybe we should start talking about pacemakers and penile implants so you can join in, care to tell us how long you've had yours?

I find the pump to be a very fine product.

The one for your heart or the one for your penis?

[Scott Campbell]

Breakin period has been an old wives tale for a long time with plasma. I wouldn't recommend a tv without knowing exactly how its going to be used first. Room size, viewing distance, lighting....all the usual questions you ask before picking one technology over another.

I've got 2 LCD 1080p sets, and while they're nice, they can't touch my 720p plasma or my 1080i rear projection CRT as televisions. But my LCD's work very well in their applications primarily as desktop displays.

I'm sitting about 9-10 feet away currently, could nudge the couches back to close to 12 foot at best without rearranging entire room, DO NOT want to do that. So I am thinking somewhere in the 50 inch range is actually pushing it. Current HDTV is 42" plasma Hitachi Ultravision. That would be getting moved to the bedroom and replaced by whatever I get next. I am thinking plasma and am going to press for 1080p capable, other than that I am totally up for suggestions. Watch more sports and regular TV than movies, plenty of gaming that looks to increase quite a bit as my 4 and 6 year olds get more into it (you can kill yourself now Harlan). Also I assume most every HDTV you can buy is carrying minimum 3 HDMI slots these days, I would want 4-5 ideally (just in case Nintendo gives up on the cartoony graphics through the red/white/yellow cords and gets with the HD program next time around), or go with the HDMI connector box I guess. I'm not buying this new toy at Sears, either. Best Buy, Circuit City, or Ultimate Electronics look to be best outlets.

I think your right about the 50. 60 would be huge from that distance. The Pioneer 5010 is well reviewed, or the 110 Elite model. But Elites cost a huge premium, and they use the same glass. The value leader in plasma are the Panasonics. Those are the only two brands I'd consider right now in plasma. I've got a 5080 (same as 5010, but 720p) and LOVE it.

[twoseven]

Breakin period has been an old wives tale for a long time with plasma. I wouldn't recommend a tv without knowing exactly how its going to be used first. Room size, viewing distance, lighting....all the usual questions you ask before picking one technology over another.

I've got 2 LCD 1080p sets, and while they're nice, they can't touch my 720p plasma or my 1080i rear projection CRT as televisions. But my LCD's work very well in their applications primarily as desktop displays.

I'm sitting about 9-10 feet away currently, could nudge the couches back to close to 12 foot at best without rearranging entire room, DO NOT want to do that. So I am thinking somewhere in the 50 inch range is actually pushing it. Current HDTV is 42" plasma Hitachi Ultravision. That would be getting moved to the bedroom and replaced by whatever I get next. I am thinking plasma and am going to press for 1080p capable, other than that I am totally up for suggestions. Watch more sports and regular TV than movies, plenty of gaming that looks to increase quite a bit as my 4 and 6 year olds get more into it (you can kill yourself now Harlan). Also I assume most every HDTV you can buy is carrying minimum 3 HDMI slots these days, I would want 4-5 ideally (just in case Nintendo gives up on the cartoony graphics through the red/white/yellow cords and gets with the HD program next time around), or go with the HDMI connector box I guess. I'm not buying this new toy at Sears, either. Best Buy, Circuit City, or Ultimate Electronics look to be best outlets.

I think your right about the 50. 60 would be huge from that distance. The Pioneer 5010 is well reviewed, or the 110 Elite model. But Elites cost a huge premium, and they use the same glass. The value leader in plasma are the Panasonics. Those are the only two brands I'd consider right now in plasma. I've got a 5080 (same as 5010, but 720p) and LOVE it.

Your advice is VERY appreciated, thank you.

[SkinBasket]

o the variables you mentioned before, combined with ignorance and poor eyesight. I only think said people are idiots when they try to tell everyone else - especially those who have 1080p TVs hooked up to 1080p sources that there isn't a difference because they don't see it at their local Sears, which probably has their HD Pretty Flower Show source box hooked up with component cables.

Actually, they use BR and HDMI from individual players.

So I happening through the mall, shopping for some dresses for when nutz comes over and we play the crying game. Anyway, I park at Sears because no one parks there so it's easy access to the good stores in the mall. As I'm strolling through the store, I happen across the TV department and the seemingly ridiculous claim Partail makes about Sears taking the time and money to hook up each TV to a BR player via HDMI comes to mind.

I check one bank of TVs, then another, and then all the rest.

You'll never guess what I found!


Every TV in the place hooked up via coax cable running off unamplified splitters. I guess my hopes for component were overly optimistic.

[Zool]

gasp? shock? uhh...no If Best Buy wont even run component, Sears sure as hell isn't.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

o the variables you mentioned before, combined with ignorance and poor eyesight. I only think said people are idiots when they try to tell everyone else - especially those who have 1080p TVs hooked up to 1080p sources that there isn't a difference because they don't see it at their local Sears, which probably has their HD Pretty Flower Show source box hooked up with component cables.

Actually, they use BR and HDMI from individual players.

So I happening through the mall, shopping for some dresses for when nutz comes over and we play the crying game. Anyway, I park at Sears because no one parks there so it's easy access to the good stores in the mall. As I'm strolling through the store, I happen across the TV department and the seemingly ridiculous claim Partail makes about Sears taking the time and money to hook up each TV to a BR player via HDMI comes to mind.

I check one bank of TVs, then another, and then all the rest.

You'll never guess what I found!


Every TV in the place hooked up via coax cable running off unamplified splitters. I guess my hopes for component were overly optimistic.

There is gambling in monte carlo? Shocking.

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um at my Sears we have at least 6-7 sets right next to each other w/ blue-ray through HDMI.

[SkinBasket]

At my sears they have a secret gay porn section hidden behind the water softeners. Next time you're at sears make a note about how many guys with mustaches are interested in water softeners.

[Harlan Huckleby]

February 20, 2008
Blu-ray Won the Battle, but Now Comes the War
By Saul Hansell

There is a concept rattling around the blogosphere that Sony’s victory over Toshiba in the war to define the high-definition video disc format is moot because soon people will be downloading high-definition videos rather than buying them on discs.
I suspect Blu-ray will have a hard time for a few years, but not because of downloading. That is simply too hard for the mass market. Buying discs is easy to do and easy to understand.
The competition for Blu-ray players is the latest generation of DVD players which can generate a high-definition signal from a standard-definition disc.
Right now, Blu-ray players cost $350 to $400. Sony PlayStation 3 game machines, which also play Blu-ray discs, also cost about $400.
I called Mike Abt, the president of Abt Electronics, the big Chicago-area electronics retailer, to ask about his take on demand for Blu-ray players in the wake of the withdrawal of Toshiba’s HD DVD format.
He said the biggest question is how Sony and the other manufacturers approach pricing.
“If Blu-ray is really smart they won’t raise prices even though they can, now that they have no competition,” he said. “They haven’t got everyone to join in and want a Blu-ray.”
“Most people are happy just buying a better DVD player, instead of spending $350 or $400 for Blu-ray,” Mr. Abt said. “An upconverting DVD player for $79 is a great value. It has a great picture, really better than an old DVD. You really see a difference.”
What is more, he said, consumers will be put off because Blu-ray discs cost $5 to $10 more than standard DVDs.
Sure, the super-high-end home theater buyers will start to get Blu-ray players, Mr. Abt said. They had already been buying the combination Blu-ray and HD DVD players from Samsung and other makers. (Those are the folks who may experiment with Apple TV or other ways to download movies, I suspect, but they will have disc players too.)
But Blu-ray will represent far less than 25 percent of disc players sold until the price falls below $200 or even $150, he said.
What about all the people who bought HD DVD players, prompted by Toshiba’s aggressive price cuts? Mr. Abt hopes he can at least partially mitigate their anger and frustration by pointing out how well the players can display standard DVDs.
“We have a lot of people who bought HD DVD players in the last few months,” he said. “We are going to communicate with them: you have an upconverting DVD player, enjoy it. You paid $150 for it, so you didn’t lose too much.”