You are dumber than you think - REALLY

[Patler]

oh for god's sake! Then how could you ever say the Gulf of Mexico is separate from the Atlantic Ocean - they do "oceanic studies" in the gulf.

Are you suggesting that the Gulf of Mexico is not part of the Atlantic Ocean?

Dfn "Gulf" - A bay, usually referring to a large bay that is an arm of an ocean or sea.

A headland is an area of land adjacent to water on three sides. A bay is the reverse, rather an area of water bordered by land on three sides. ...A large bay may also be called a gulf, sound or bight.

Thus, "bays," "gulfs," "sounds." etc are all parts of a larger body of water, a region or area of the larger body.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If they conducted a study of the physical oceanography of Long Island Sound, by definition it is part of the ocean.

You conveniently ignored that this was not my argument or theory, but a definition put out by Woodshole and the OSGS in studying the Sound. They defined it, not me.

not so, slick. OSGS merely explored the "oceanography" of LIS. It was you, in your zeal to score cheap points in an online forum, who connected the word "oceanography" to "Atlantic Ocean". Disgraceful behavior.

[Harlan Huckleby]

do we need to discuss fjords? are you gonna tell me a fjord is just another piece of the ocean?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Are you suggesting that the Gulf of Mexico is not part of the Atlantic Ocean?

Yes, it's a separate body of water. (I think. )

And why is the Indian Ocean a separate body of water from the Pacific Ocean?

[Patler]

If they conducted a study of the physical oceanography of Long Island Sound, by definition it is part of the ocean.

You conveniently ignored that this was not my argument or theory, but a definition put out by Woodshole and the OSGS in studying the Sound. They defined it, not me.

not so, slick. OSGS merely explored the "oceanography" of LIS. It was you, in your zeal to score cheap points in an online forum, who connected the word "oceanography" to "Atlantic Ocean". Disgraceful behavior.

a=b, b=c, therefore a=c

[Patler]

Are you suggesting that the Gulf of Mexico is not part of the Atlantic Ocean?

Yes, it's a separate body of water. (I think. )

And why is the Indian Ocean a separate body of water from the Pacific Ocean?

Because the oceans are not separate bodies of water.

"Though generally recognized as several 'separate' oceans, these waters comprise one global, interconnected body of salt water often referred to as the World Ocean or global ocean. This concept of a global ocean as a continuous body of water with relatively free interchange among its parts is of fundamental importance to oceanography.[3] The major oceanic divisions are defined in part by the continents, various archipelagos, and other criteria: these divisions are (in descending order of size) the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Southern Ocean (which is sometimes subsumed as the southern portions of the Pacific, Atlantic, and Indian Oceans), and the Arctic Ocean (which is sometimes considered a sea of the Atlantic). The Pacific and Atlantic may be further subdivided by the equator into northerly and southerly portions. Smaller regions of the oceans are called seas, gulfs, bays and other names.

[Harlan Huckleby]

"The Gulf of Mexico is the ninth largest body of water in the world. It is an ocean basin largely surrounded by the North American continent and the island of Cuba."

but then they go on to talk about GoM as part of Atlantic Ocean.

So I guess Patler is right, gulfs and bays are considered to be a part of the ocean,even tho they have their own boundaries. I say its a matter of common useage more than anything else. And I can't think of an estuary as being part of an ocean, it is no more ocean than it is river. By the knee-bone-connected-to-the-thigh-bone theory, rivers that feed oceans could be considered part of the ocean. Nah, estuaries are separate.

[Harlan Huckleby]

"Though generally recognized as several 'separate' oceans, these waters comprise one global, interconnected body of salt water often referred to as the World Ocean or global ocean.

Oh my God, Obama's fingerprints are everywhere. Yes We Can!

[Patler]

Someone buy Harlan a globe!

[Scott Campbell]

Re: You are dumber than you think - REALLY

...........I did a little geography test with a friend and learned that I am stupid ...........

Read the quote from Harlan's initial post (above). I think we're getting away from the original premise of this thread.

[BallHawk]

look, I'm not going to sugar coat this: packinpatland & BallHawk are damnable liars.

Give me my prizes.

[packinpatland]

look, I'm not going to sugar coat this: packinpatland & BallHawk are damnable liars.

Give me my prizes.

Hey, I'm half of those 'damnable liars'........you gotta share.

[BallHawk]

look, I'm not going to sugar coat this: packinpatland & BallHawk are damnable liars.

Give me my prizes.

Hey, I'm half of those 'damnable liars'........you gotta share.

I'll share only because you're unfortunate enough to be living with all those Pat fans up there in CT.

[Harlan Huckleby]

look, I'm not going to sugar coat this: packinpatland & BallHawk are damnable liars.

Give me my prizes.

I went to bat for you on your estuary theory. Unfortunately, both you & PIP stretched the truth about the boundaries of the Long Island Sound, and now you must suffer the consequences.

I was thinking of the analogy of Patler being a stubborn mule. Clearly he has some qualities of both a horse and a jackass, but he is neither, he is a synthesis of the two.

An estuary is neither a river nor an ocean, it's a whole new thing.

[Patler]

Re: You are dumber than you think - REALLY

...........I did a little geography test with a friend and learned that I am stupid ...........

Read the quote from Harlan's initial post (above). I think we're getting away from the original premise of this thread.

Good point! We may be dumber than we think, as Harlan suggests. However, the real question is, are ANY of us dumber than Harlan???