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Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
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What part of Spitzer's ouster was due to a permanent witchhunt?My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do? -
You aren't going to end affairs or prostitution by rousing public indignation. All you do is make blackmailing easier and more lucrative.Originally posted by Scott Campbell
The list of presidents who had affairs while in office is sobering. Tommy Thompson was a TOTAL horndog when he was governor.
I can't argue with the logic of your position. It just wreaks havoc in reality.Comment
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Spitzer's situation was extreme. Although I don't think he should have been ejected, there were factors that lead to intense public attention and pressure.Originally posted by The Leaper
I want to keep the blue noses among us, the Skinbasket Puritan League, from repeating this mistake.Comment
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Public sentiment. This issue seems to swing in cycles. I wish we would remove sex scandals permanently.Originally posted by Scott CampbellComment
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If the dbag cant keep a secret like this down, how's he going to keep the rest of his ducks in a row? I could care less if he diddles she-males while dressed up like Mary Poppins, but he has to keep that under wraps in order to keep the masses calm.
Is solicitation a felony or a misdemeanor? I think I would lose my job if I was a felon.Originally posted by 3irty1Comment
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I do not pretend to know all of the details of Spitzer's time as AG, and the many suits, threatened actions and the like that he instigated in the securities field. However, some articles imply that he forced resignations and penalties on many individuals and businesses for very technical transgressions, things that everyone knew about and that had been common practice for years. Some were crimes/violations that an AG should have pursued , but others perhaps were just to build his reputation. He used negative publicity as his weapon against reputation-sensitive businesses.
IF that is true (and I emphasize "if" because I do not know enough about those actions), for him to be brought down because of negative publicity from the so-called "victimless" crime of solicitation, and a technical violation of laws to combat money-laundering doesn't make me feel too bad for him. He may have gotten what he gave.Comment
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ya, it's hard to find any sympathy for Spitzer.
a new Governor feeling obligated to confess his past sexual affairs is a bad sign. Time was when the press didn't report on the sex lives of politicians. That was better for the country.Comment
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I have to agree with you on both counts. The fact that Paterson and his wife apparently both had affairs something like 7 years ago at a time when their own marriage was floundering is quite irrelevant to anything today, or even then for that matter. It is a little different than a sitting governor hiring high priced call girls while on a trip for the business of the state, in my opinion.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
I am a believer that while the public may have the right to know certain things, that doesn't necessarily mean it is good that those things be publicized.Comment
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And the beat goes on......
Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day
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...and this is the only reason her schedule was in such demand.Originally posted by KiwonAnd the beat goes on......
Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day
C.H.U.D.Comment
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Cutting-edge journalism, baby. Their phone sex conversations should be coming out any day now.Originally posted by Freak Out
(AP) Lewinsky and the first lady
Hillary Rodham Clinton was in the White House on at least seven days when her husband had sexual encounters with Monica Lewinsky, according to the first lady's calendars released Wednesday.
A look at her schedule on days when Lewinsky said she had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton:
_Nov. 15, 1995: The first lady was in a mid-afternoon "meet & greet" photo opportunity at the White House with various Nobel Laureates and their families. That night, Lewinsky had what she later said was her first sexual encounter with the president in the private study off the Oval office.
_Nov. 17, 1995: Mrs. Clinton had no public schedule and was at the White House. That night, Lewinsky said she had a sexual encounter with the president while he was on the telephone in the White House with a member of Congress.
_Dec. 31, 1995: Lewinsky said she and the president had a sexual encounter early that afternoon in a study down the hall from the Oval Office. Sometime afterward, the president, first lady and their daughter, Chelsea, flew to Hilton Head, S.C., to spend New Year's Eve with hundreds of friends during their annual getaway at an intellectual family retreat known as Renaissance Weekend.
_Jan. 7, 1996: On a Sunday afternoon, Lewinsky and the president spent most of the afternoon in the Oval Office. The first lady and the president had a small dinner with 20 people at "the Old Family Dining Room" at the White House.
_Jan. 21, 1996: The first lady had no public schedule, but she and the president privately toured an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art. Lewinsky and the president had an afternoon sexual encounter in the hallway by the private study next to the Oval Office, Lewinsky said later.
_Feb. 4, 1996: Mrs. Clinton and the president attended the National Governors Association annual dinner. Lewinsky said she and the president had a sexual encounter that day, and sat and talked in the Oval Office for about 45 minutes.
_March 31, 1996: Mrs. Clinton toured an archaeological site and museum in Delphi, Greece, and watched a folk dance performance. That day, Lewinsky said she and the president resumed their sexual contact.
_April 7, 1996, Easter Sunday. Mrs. Clinton had no public schedule. Lewinsky said that, at the president's suggestion, she performed oral sex while he was on the telephone in his office. (Real nice touch. Easter services at church in the morning, a blowjob in the evening.)
_Feb. 28, 1997: The schedule shows Mrs. Clinton was in the White House at least part of the day, when President Clinton and Lewinsky had oral sex near the Oval Office, leaving stains on her dress. There were no public events, but the schedule shows Mrs. Clinton had "drop by" events or meetings in the Map Room and Diplomatic Reception Room between 11 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. The schedule also lists plays and a concert that night, but it is not clear whether Mrs. Clinton attended.
_March 29, 1997: On the day when Lewinsky later told independent counsel Kenneth Starr that she had her final sexual encounter with the president, Mrs. Clinton was thousands of miles away in Eritrea. In his grand jury testimony, the president denied this encounter. The first lady that day toured the Martyrs' Cemetery in Eritrea, where she participated in a wreath-laying ceremony and a tree planting. She also visited a health care clinic, spoke to villagers, and toured a polio vaccination room. She visited a woodworking center, held a round-table discussion with the National Union of Eritrean Women and met the country's president.
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Hillary has the gall to fault U.S. troops for not being able to find 6'5" Osama bin-Laden in the mountains of Afghanistan all the while her husband was screwing around in the White House under her nose and she didn't know about it.
Or did she?
"You cur-sed brat!, look what you've done!, I'm melting! What a world! Who would've thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness!"
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Where did Hillary fault US troops for failing to find Bin Laden? I've only heard her lay the blame squarely where it belongs: on W and his ill conceived war.
As for Monica, what if Hillary didn't know? Bad luck for her. What if she did know? BFD.
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