No vote for you!

[GoPackGo]

Clearly reading Partial's nonstop idiocies on this forum are starting to warp your Brains. think about this:
I know a felon who got busted with a large amount of pot in the 70's. He never spent any time in jail, has had a clean record for 30 years, can't legally own a gun though he love's to deer hunt, is a great father and grandfather, and is on the board of elders and ushers in his church. He's been writing letters to the governor of Wisconsin for a pardon for 15 years. Despite never committing a violent or perverted crime he still pays for a dumb decision he made when he was 19 years old.
So you approve of taking this upstanding citizens right to vote away? And you call yourself Americans?

Well that is a really nice story about your friend, I am glad that he was able to rebound from a bad decision, but he should thank his lucky stars every night that he didn't have to go to prison.

He can still bow hunt, a bow is not a fire arm.
He can actually still get a deer gun permit and do drives for his friends and family. Don't quote me on this, but I think he can reapply for gun ownership rights in the state of Wisconsin. I might be wrong, but tell your friend to check into that, it might be easier than trying to get a pardon. Even if you are pardoned though it still means that you are felon. Pardon's don't erase your past, they just get you off the hook.

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As far as him thanking his lucky stars he didn't go to prison.....It wasn't even his pot. He was just an accessory in the deal. He paid a fine and got slapped with the felony tag. No probation, no prison. And not one incident since that one in 1977.
He does bow hunt. Why can't he gun hunt? his felony has hindered his profession, as he could be making more money if he could legally leave the country.
Hearing people group all felons together makes me very defensive.

[Scott Campbell]

I know a felon who got busted with a large amount of pot in the 70's.

Large amount - huh? So he was pushing? Were any of those drugs distributed to kids?

I'd rather save my energy for real victims. I voted no, but meant to vote yes.

[GoPackGo]

I know a felon who got busted with a large amount of pot in the 70's.

Large amount - huh? So he was pushing? Were any of those drugs distributed to kids?

I'd rather save my energy for real victims. I voted no.

its was the largest pot bust ever in the same city that he went to high school
couple hundred lbs.

[Scott Campbell]

I know a felon who got busted with a large amount of pot in the 70's.

Large amount - huh? So he was pushing? Were any of those drugs distributed to kids?

I'd rather save my energy for real victims. I voted no.

its was the largest pot bust ever in the same city that he went to high school
couple hundred lbs.

It's too bad - that young - a dumb move that followed him around for the rest of his life.

[SkinBasket]

So you approve of taking this upstanding citizens right to vote away? And you call yourself Americans?

No one's taking away anyone's right to vote. Some of us just don't have Harlan's overinflated sense of outrage over things we aren't educated about.

Your upstanding citizen friend should have considered the consequences on his future before becoming a pot dealer I guess. Can't say I have any sympathy for him not being able to possess a firearm. Nor would I have any if he couldn't vote if that were the law when he decided to start acting feloniously.

I suppose I adhere to the idea of accepting responsibility for your actions instead of acting like a victim because you don't like the consequences. I'm not going to shed a tear for someone who violated their society and then wants a say in the direction of the very same society.

[SkinBasket]

Don't berate me too much GoPackGo. I wrote that before I read your other posts about being defensive about felons of varying types.

I should have said pot dealer's helper instead of pot dealer.

[GoPackGo]

its all good in the neighborhood

[Freak Out]

Clearly reading Partial's nonstop idiocies on this forum are starting to warp your Brains. think about this:
I know a felon who got busted with a large amount of pot in the 70's. He never spent any time in jail, has had a clean record for 30 years, can't legally own a gun though he love's to deer hunt, is a great father and grandfather, and is on the board of elders and ushers in his church. He's been writing letters to the governor of Wisconsin for a pardon for 15 years. Despite never committing a violent or perverted crime he still pays for a dumb decision he made when he was 19 years old.
So you approve of taking this upstanding citizens right to vote away? And you call yourself Americans?

I suggest he write a former drug user who has the power to offer a boat load of pardons anytime he wants. He will be losing that power soon so tell him to start writing now. Organize a letter writing campaign or something.

[Iron Mike]

Back off topic.....it took until 2001 for Texas to have an open container law.

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Pamphlets&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4902

When I was stationed there in the mid-80s, it was still legal for everyone in a vehicle besides the driver to be drinking. Yeeeaaaaahhhhhwwhooooo!!!!!

[Freak Out]

Back off topic.....it took until 2001 for Texas to have an open container law.

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Pamphlets&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4902

When I was stationed there in the mid-80s, it was still legal for everyone in a vehicle besides the driver to be drinking. Yeeeaaaaahhhhhwwhooooo!!!!!

I go to Louisiana for work a few times a year and really enjoy the drive up Daiquiri stores. Just don't drink it while driving! Ah...sure. It's 100 damn degrees out and humid as all get out.

The only reason they wrote the law was to get FED highway $$$...they sure don't enforce it.

[texaspackerbacker]

I was not aware that so many states allowed them to vote. That's a little bit depressing. It's another example of the crap that gets passed in state legislatures--and Congress--without much fanfare--then it's the law, and it's pretty much too late.

All sorts of do-gooder idiocy gets rammed through that way that would NEVER pass a referendum.

The stupid ban on incandescent lights comes to mind, along with all sorts of "safety" crap.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tex,

what do you suppose preventing felons from voting accomplishes? Do you think it deters other criminals? I really don't get it.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Back off topic.....it took until 2001 for Texas to have an open container law.

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Pamphlets&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4902

When I was stationed there in the mid-80s, it was still legal for everyone in a vehicle besides the driver to be drinking. Yeeeaaaaahhhhhwwhooooo!!!!!

That sucks. The only time I went to Texas was around New Year's 1999. We took advantage of the lack of an open container law.

[SkinBasket]

what do you suppose preventing felons from voting accomplishes? Do you think it deters other criminals? I really don't get it.

Harlan, you like to look at everything from the ass end first. Preventing voting isn't supposed to deter fuckers from felony crime. It's meant to say we aren't going to let society's cocksuckers (not literally, as I believe in most states fellatio is not a felony) determine the fate of the rest of us.

[Harlan Huckleby]

OK, sounds like a way to express anger. A sort of fuck-you gesture to ex-cons.

I don't see any value in that. Its not a punishment that deters anybody, so where exactly does the benefit kick in? I'd rather encourage felons to lead a productive life, ex-cons should be encouraged to vote, not prevented.

Also it is a horrible overreach by government. I don't want government to have the power to keep ANYBODY from voting.