No vote for you!

[Harlan Huckleby]

No, this is not another rant about the grave injustice suffered by the good people of MI & FL at the hands of that skinny black monster. Maybe later.

I want to know how the F it is reasonable and wise to prohibit convicted felons from ever voting again? I think this is the wierdest form of discrimination we have going, a real carry-over from the Dark Ages.

If a former criminal wants to take the time to vote, isn't that a GOOD thing? It means they feel part of society. Voting is good citizenship. I would guess people who vote are less angry and frustrated, can't say which came first, the chicken or egg. Why would we want felons to be permanent outcasts, that's counter-productive.

[SkinBasket]

Re: No vote for you!

No, this is not another rant about the grave injustice suffered by the good people of MI & FL at the hands of that skinny black monster. Maybe later.

I want to know how the F it is reasonable and wise to prohibit convicted felons from ever voting again? I think this is the wierdest form of discrimination we have going, a real carry-over from the Dark Ages.

If a former criminal wants to take the time to vote, isn't that a GOOD thing? It means they feel part of society. Voting is good citizenship. I would guess people who vote are less angry and frustrated, can't say which came first, the chicken or egg. Why would we want felons to be permanent outcasts, that's counter-productive.

What I don't understand is why we put felons in prison. I mean, we want them to be a part of society after all, right? Isn't not being in jail a GOOD thing? Not being in jail is good citizenship. Such a strange form of punishment, this prison thing. All it accomplishes is removing those who do harm to our society from said society. Weird.

Oh, yeah. Chickens. Eggs. Disenfranchise. Injustice. Revote. Media conspiracy. Snipers.

[Zool]

Rock

[the_idle_threat]

In the Dark Ages, those convicted of felony-level offenses were pretty much always hanged or otherwise executed. But I know what you meant. :P

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: No vote for you!

No, this is not another rant about the grave injustice suffered by the good people of MI & FL at the hands of that skinny black monster. Maybe later.

I want to know how the F it is reasonable and wise to prohibit convicted felons from ever voting again? I think this is the wierdest form of discrimination we have going, a real carry-over from the Dark Ages.

If a former criminal wants to take the time to vote, isn't that a GOOD thing? It means they feel part of society. Voting is good citizenship. I would guess people who vote are less angry and frustrated, can't say which came first, the chicken or egg. Why would we want felons to be permanent outcasts, that's counter-productive.

What I don't understand is why we put felons in prison. I mean, we want them to be a part of society after all, right? Isn't not being in jail a GOOD thing? Not being in jail is good citizenship. Such a strange form of punishment, this prison thing. All it accomplishes is removing those who do harm to our society from said society. Weird.

Oh, yeah. Chickens. Eggs. Disenfranchise. Injustice. Revote. Media conspiracy. Snipers.

So if I read you correctly, the notion of allowing felons to vote is coddling criminals. And suggestion that they should be able to vote is too ridiculous to discuss.

Felons are allowed to vote in most states, I believe. In some states they have to go through some probabionary period to get vote back. I'll have to look it up, but I think only Texas and Florida still disenfranchise felons.

Texas may be just the place for you.

The huge number of people who do time (since the 80's) for drug crimes make taking the vote away particularly damaging.

[SkinBasket]

Re: No vote for you!

Felons are allowed to vote in most states, I believe. In some states they have to go through some probabionary period to get vote back. I'll have to look it up, by I think only Texas and Florida still disenfranchise felons.

Then why are you making such a big deal about it? Disenfranchising felons...

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: No vote for you!

Felons are allowed to vote in most states, I believe. In some states they have to go through some probabionary period to get vote back. I'll have to look it up, by I think only Texas and Florida still disenfranchise felons.

Then why are you making such a big deal about it? Disenfranchising felons...

Perhaps a poll in PackerRats is too huge of a deal.

you're gonna love Texas, my redneck friend. Tex has got an extra room upstairs until you get on your feet.

I don't think any state should be allowed to take the vote away from anybody. Texas & Florida are keeping a hell of a lot of people, mostly African Americans who got busted for drugs, from voting. Outrageous.

[SkinBasket]

Re: No vote for you!

The huge number of people who do time (since the 80) for drug crimes make taking the vote away particularly damaging.

Damaging to who?

What percentage of these people would vote if they could anyway?

A drug felon is still a felon, no matter what song your bleeding heart sings.

[SkinBasket]

Sometimes you're so goddamn retarded.

[SkinBasket]

Re: No vote for you!

Texas & Florida are keeping a hell of a lot of people, mostly Democrats, from voting. Outrageous.

This is the only reason this is an issue for you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: No vote for you!

The huge number of people who do time (since the 80) for drug crimes make taking the vote away particularly damaging.

Damaging to who?

What percentage of these people would vote if they could anyway?

A drug felon is still a felon, no matter what song your bleeding heart sings.

The more who vote the better, it's a sign they are turning away from anti-social behavior.

I am surprised that you would want to stand by this policy. I really don't see any justification for it. It's wrong on principle as well as practicalities.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: No vote for you!

Texas & Florida are keeping a hell of a lot of people, mostly Democrats, from voting. Outrageous.

This is the only reason this is an issue for you.

Is this the only reason you want to prevent them from voting?

[Freak Out]

So someone once convicted of a felony is never allowed to vote once out of prison in Florida and Texas even after "paying their debt to society"? Sounds about right for Texas....I'm surprised anyone can vote in Florida.

[The Leaper]

I can see the logic behind the idea, although I admit taking away their vote for life seems too harsh.

Personally, I like the idea of taking their vote away from them for a probationary period after they serve their time...to see if they really are reformed or will just wind up back behind bars in 6 months. An unreformed felon does not deserve a vote in our society IMO.

[Harlan Huckleby]

SkinBasket,

Hold off on the Texas move! Texas changed their law 10 years ago. And Florida just a few months ago gave ex-cons right to vote. The fact that close to 1 million Floridians were ineligible to vote in 2004 caught somebody's attention.

Kentucky and Virginia still disenfranchise felons, I suspect you'll fit-in even better down Appalachia way.

I guess this issue is fading-away along with the spread of electricity and readin and writin. Fun to see the reaction, though, I guess you might be a redneck if you post in PackerRats.