Interracial Relationship/Marriage: Are you for or against it

[Deputy Nutz]

I married someone not of my race, take a guess what I think. College, I had experienced the whole damn melting pot by the time the smoke had cleared. Forget frowning on interracial hook ups, let's get serious and do something about letting stupid people hook up and reproduce.

I think you are against it, you now know that regardless of race marriage is a stinker for any man.

[PackFan#1]

Are you saying that it is ok to be racist toward blacks who are influenced by the hip-hop culture?

Try as you might, but I didn't read what he wrote that way. I think you're pushing shit uphill if you want to claim he's racist based on what he wrote.

Read again. No one is calling him a racist.

You called him a racist with your innuendo. I called you on it, now your backing away.

Wtf? I asked him a question. Did he meant to say that it is ok to have "Negative feelings" toward blacks who dress like gangsta rappers, but it is wrong to have "negative feelings" toward blacks who dress causally?

Nowhere did i call him a racist.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I have no problem who does what with whom. I just think people should vote on laws, not let judges dictate and interpret them.

Ironic!
It was only judges interpreting the constitution that ended the miscegenation laws, finally, in the 1960's. If it was left to voters, it would have been illegal for blacks and whites to marry in many states for years to come. Might even still be illegal today. And I'm serious, I doubt the race problems would have been solved yet without our Bill of Rights and Constitution.

You can't always leave things to the popular will.

Well, you could, but then we would live in a very different country.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I married someone not of my race, take a guess what I think.

You'll stick to your own kind like mom said next time?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative.

P.S. I'm talking about being racist, not prejudiced.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Could it be because conservatives opposed civil rights back in the 1960's?

I really don't think racism is tied to liberal/conservative thinking anymore.

[sheepshead]

I have no problem who does what with whom. I just think people should vote on laws, not let judges dictate and interpret them.

Ironic!
It was only judges interpreting the constitution that ended the miscegenation laws, finally, in the 1960's. If it was left to voters, it would have been illegal for blacks and whites to marry in many states for years to come. Might even still be illegal today. And I'm serious, I doubt the race problems would have been solved yet without our Bill of Rights and Constitution.

You can't always leave things to the popular will.

Well, you could, but then we would live in a very different country.

I still believe in states rights, I dont know where these dorks heads were at back then and we have the benefit of historical perspective. Look, it took Jackie Robinson to break the color barrier. Brothers cant play baseball?? WTF?

[bobblehead]

Are you saying that it is ok to be racist toward blacks who are influenced by the hip-hop culture?

Try as you might, but I didn't read what he wrote that way. I think you're pushing shit uphill if you want to claim he's racist based on what he wrote.

Read again. No one is calling him a racist.

You called him a racist with your innuendo. I called you on it, now your backing away.

Wtf? I asked him a question. Did he meant to say that it is ok to have "Negative feelings" toward blacks who dress like gangsta rappers, but it is wrong to have "negative feelings" toward blacks who dress causally?

Nowhere did i call him a racist.

OK, I'll answer your question...quote ALL of my words next time. No, I don't mean to say something I didn't say. I don't mean to say something that I actually implied just the opposite of. If you are capable of actually reading what I said and comprehending the meaning you wouldn't have to ask such a stupid question. You are doing exactly what I said pisses me the fuck off which is when any "conservative" so much as tries to discuss race you will grab on to anything you can to imply he is a rascist. And you did imply that.

By asking that question are you saying it IS ok to hate women...I mean, if you read what I said....mysoginist lyrics....and you seem to have a problem with me having negative feelings towards such an individual I can only conclude you hate women...its so obvious.

The entire point of my post, which everyone but you seemed to get is that if a person is acting like a punk and you think he is a punk the skin color is irrelavent.

Let me phrase it another way.

If a white guy murders your wife and you hate him it doesn't mean you are rascist against white guys.

Is that clearer?

PS..you didn't ask about negative feelings...you asked if I was saying its ok to be a rascist, and now you are backpedalling indeed.

[bobblehead]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Could it be because conservatives opposed civil rights back in the 1960's?

I really don't think racism is tied to liberal/conservative thinking anymore.

First:
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The bill was sent to the House of Representatives, and referred to the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Emmanuel Celler. After a series of hearings on the bill, Celler's committee greatly strengthened the act, adding provisions to ban racial discrimination in employment. The bill was reported out of the Judiciary Committee in November 1963, but was then referred to the Rules Committee, whose chairman, Howard W. Smith, a Democrat from Virginia, indicated his intention to keep the bill bottled up indefinitely
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Next:
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The bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964 and the "Southern Bloc" of southern Senators led by Richard Russell (D-GA) launched a filibuster to prevent its passage. Said Russell "We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states."[3]
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and:
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On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation. Until then, the measure had occupied the Senate for 57 working days, including six Saturdays.
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You mean a high ranking democrat is a rascist and former clansman??
And FINALLY!!!
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Vote totals
Totals are in "Yea-Nay" format:

The original House version: 290-130 (69%-31%)
The Senate version: 73-27 (73%-27%)
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126 (70%-30%)

[edit] By party
The original House version:[6]

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
The Senate version:[6]

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[6]

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)
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Yep, those conservatives surely are the rascists, its obvious. Like I said, I get pissed right the fuck off by this myth that the democrats have been able to perpetuate after doing everything they could to stop the civil rights bill and then not supporting it as strongly as republicans.

Harlen, I know you are a fairly smart dude, but the numbers and facts don't lie...only the perception that has been portrayed every since does.

[bobblehead]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative.

P.S. I'm talking about being racist, not prejudiced.

And this is just inflamatory bullshit. First off, I would like you to document the 99% number...oh, you can't, nm. I would like to add that 100% of the
murderers i have met are liberals. I'm just saying is all.

Second, not sure where you are hanging out meeting conservative rascists, but I'm not buying it. Personally I haven't gotten to know any rascists long enough to know there political stance...I'm shocked you have.

Third...see senator byrd above...former clansman...high ranking liberal.

Finally, I hope you aren't implying people like David Duke are conservatives, he is simply a bigot, and lumping him with conservatives is like lumping the unabomber with liberals.

BTW, any high ranking republicans former clansmen??

[Scott Campbell]

I married someone not of my race, take a guess what I think.

You'll stick to your own kind like mom said next time?

You're one to talk. We'd be happy enough if you'd stick to the same species for a change.

[Freak Out]

We need this poll? Fuck.....

[Partial]

Could not care less.

[texaspackerbacker]

As for the original question, no big deal one way or the other.

It would be interesting to how different people even define "interracial marriage", not to mention how they define "racism" and "prejudiced"--which somebody seemed to distinguish one from the other.

Depending on how you define your terms, you can either snare just about everybody or absolve everybody.

"I have a dream ......." Anybody read Ol' MLK's speech lately? It sounds like it's right out of the conservative playbook--completely contrary to what the libs are pushing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Conservatism of today is not the same as conservatism of yesterday. Conservatism of yesterday gets that label for a reason.

Depends on what your definition of Conservatism is, but I see you are doing the old Democratic trick of trying to associate Conservatives/Republicans with racism.

A Republican ended slavery. A Republican ended Jim Crow. Republican legislators supported the Civil Rights Movement by a greater percentage than Democratic legislators. Look it up. You are associating the ideals of the pre-60s Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) with Conservatism.