Interracial Relationship/Marriage: Are you for or against it

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative.

P.S. I'm talking about being racist, not prejudiced.

And this is just inflamatory bullshit. First off, I would like you to document the 99% number...oh, you can't, nm. I would like to add that 100% of the
murderers i have met are liberals. I'm just saying is all.

Second, not sure where you are hanging out meeting conservative rascists, but I'm not buying it. Personally I haven't gotten to know any rascists long enough to know there political stance...I'm shocked you have.

Third...see senator byrd above...former clansman...high ranking liberal.

Finally, I hope you aren't implying people like David Duke are conservatives, he is simply a bigot, and lumping him with conservatives is like lumping the unabomber with liberals.

BTW, any high ranking republicans former clansmen??

Document? What kind of stupidity is that? I clearly talked ABOUT MY LIFE. Are you calling me a liar? I lived in the south for 10 plus years and met plenty of racists.

Perhaps you need to take a little trip to mississippi sometime.

Who mentioned a political party. Nice strawman. Senator Byrd long ago disavowed his membership. Furthermore, those southern Dems weren't liberals. That would be akin to talking about republicans in the 1800s and comparing them to today's republicans. Get serious.

More to the point, liberal isn't a synonym for Dem..any more than conserv is for repub.

Take some time to think before you post. I clearly said that being conservative doesn't mean you are racist, but most if not all the racists i've met are conservative...both socially, religously, culturally, economically, etc.

As for KKK republicans...again, strawman. THe kkk was founded to intimidate blacks and white supporters of the repub party. However, you know that party isn't the same as today's.

More importantly, ONLY ONE KNOWN KLAN MEMBER IS KNOW TO HAVE SERVED IN THE FEDERAL GOV'T. So, you just look foolish bringing up Byrd..who joined at age 24 and has publicly renounced his involvement. But, let's all talk about something that he disavowed over 50 years ago.

But, if you want, we can play that game. Yes, i would consider Gov. Ed Jackson of Indiana high ranking, as would Benjamin Stapleton as mayor of Denver and Clarence Morley as governor of Colorado.

As for Duke, he ran AS A REPUBLICAN FOR GOV of LA. And, he beat out Treen who was endorsed by Pres. Bush...speaks volumes.

Or should we forget that jesse helms ran for prez on a strict segregationist platform...not a klansmen, but definitely repub.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative.

P.S. I'm talking about being racist, not prejudiced.

And this is just inflamatory bullshit.

One sentence sums up "Tyrone's" posts so accurately. I've met conservative racists, liberal racists (lots of union member types and inner city folks that would classify themselves as Democrats), and black racists (lots of them in the inner city also). All about equally. History shows which party has advanced black causes more. Of course, Democrats get the glory from MSM--mostly because of entitlement programs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

BTW, this is a stupid poll.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sheep, conservatism gets unfairly assosciated with rascism....don't fall into even addressing that myth.

You might be right, but it does seem quite strange that most of the racists i've met seem to hold conservative values close to their heart.

Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative.

P.S. I'm talking about being racist, not prejudiced.

And this is just inflamatory bullshit.

One sentence sums up "Tyrone's" posts so accurately. I've met conservative racists, liberal racists (lots of union member types and inner city folks that would classify themselves as Democrats), and black racists (lots of them in the inner city also). All about equally. History shows which party has advanced black causes more. Of course, Democrats get the glory from MSM--mostly because of entitlement programs.

As usual, you conflate being liberal with being a democrat. Being democrat doesn't mean you are a liberal.

I freely admit that there are prejudiced people of all political persuasions, but racism is quite a bit different than being prejudiced.

I rarely have met a black person who thinks blacks are a superior race.

[texaspackerbacker]

Some would say that the most vile racism is picturing minorities as incapable of competing in life without affirmative action and a myriad of liberal social programs to give them an advantage. Conversely, the clearest example of equality--as articulated by Martin Luther King, is merely leveling the playing field--and making the assumption that minorities are no different than anybody else in their desire not to be taxed to death or have intrusive government get in their business.

Some might also call it racist to take for granted the vote of a particular minority--delivered at about a 90% rate wrapped up and tied with a pink bow by the black leaders/overseers of the liberal plantation, and then for that party to blatantly fly in the face of that minority population on moral issues--not to mention taxation, defense, and security.

Let's see what our elitist government-loving, abortion-loving, gay agenda pushing Dem/libs have to say about this.

[MJZiggy]

BTW, this is a stupid poll.

I don't see the "I don't give a fuck what they do" option...

[bobblehead]

As usual, you conflate being liberal with being a democrat. Being democrat doesn't mean you are a liberal.

I freely admit that there are prejudiced people of all political persuasions, but racism is quite a bit different than being prejudiced.

I rarely have met a black person who thinks blacks are a superior race.

Ok, I'll play your game.

As usual, you conflate being rascist with being a conservative. And just cuz David Duke runs as a republican does not make him a conservative...he is a bigot and any member of the party would say so. His assosciation with the party is a disgrace, but you can't push a guy out who wins a nomination fair and square.

I have met several black people who think blacks are a superior race...Dennis Rodman comes to mind immediately. Cris Carter said when he sees a white guy lineup across from him he assumes he is an inferior athlete.

And I too will freely admit that there are rascists and bigots in every walk of life and its not fair, but it is equally unfair to make ANY connection with being a conservative or a liberal.

BTW, you said "Being conservative doesn't mean you are a racist, but about 99% of racists are conservative. " I guess in line with the rest of the post, you meant in your experience, but as a seperate paragraph I didn't read it that way. I can say in all honesty of the 5 co-workers I have ever had show rascist tendencies (in my eyes) 3 were liberals and 2 were conservatives. One was a socialist liberal and he was the most openly rascist of the group.

I have been to mississippi and all over the south and pretty much the US at different times, and I guess no matter what you and I throw back and forth.....assosciating conservative and rascist pisses me the fuck off and always will.

I could go on and on about G. Ferarro saying things a conservative would get crucified for but you won't ever understand my side of this issue(and maybe I'll never understand yours). I'm a white guy without a rascist bone in my body, but I get the snide remarks/accusations and shit like that anytime it can even be remotely construed as an issue. PackFan#1 did it within this very post. Harlen still thinks it was democrats who brought on civil rights despite all evidence to the contrary. There is nothing a white guy can do short of pulling a jerry mcguire. Well here goes:

I LOVE THE BLACK MAN!!!! (AND ASIAN, HISPANIC, INDIAN AND ANYONE I'M NOT THINKING OF ATM)

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harlen, I know you are a fairly smart dude.

I liked the sound of that, thought I'd emphasize it.

but the numbers and facts don't lie...only the perception that has been portrayed every since does.

when I said "conservatives" opposed civil rights in the 60's, I was including the southern Dixiecrats.

[SkinBasket]

Some might also call it racist to take for granted the vote of a particular minority--delivered at about a 90% rate wrapped up and tied with a pink bow by the black leaders/overseers of the liberal plantation, and then for that party to blatantly fly in the face of that minority population on moral issues--not to mention taxation, defense, and security.

Harlan was all for that gift until it went to the black dude instead of the wife of the first black president. Now he's outraged.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There's the word conservative, but it's different than the political term. Conservative to me is someone who believes in individual freedoms, state's rights, small government, etc. By individual freedom, it's not so much freedom of speech and the like, but the freedom to succeed or fail based on one's own choices and initiative (without the government either helping or hindering the process much). There should be a safety net for those that truly need it, but it should be a small one. A safety net that is too big breeds citizens that are unmotivated. With individual freedom comes individual responsibility.

I think the conservatives you speak of paint themselves as a conservative when their politics aren't anything like what a true conservative is. To me, a true conservative has a lot of liberatarian ideals.

[bobblehead]

Harlen, I know you are a fairly smart dude.

I liked the sound of that, thought I'd emphasize it.

but the numbers and facts don't lie...only the perception that has been portrayed every since does.

when I said "conservatives" opposed civil rights in the 60's, I was including the southern Dixiecrats.

well don't, they were rascists, not conservatives. and remember, byrd was the big filibuster king of the movement and he was a democrat then and he is a democrat now...tyrone says he has had a change of heart, but not a change of party affiliation.

You can't just label a rascist behavior as consrvative behavior and then pretend they are interchangeable. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Rascist behavior is just that rascist....not conservative and not liberal. Clear your mind, disassociate the two, they are not one in the same. The MSM has tied the two together for so long it is sticking, but it is still just inflamatory bullshit.

Say it with me everyone....rascism is NOT conservative behavior, its rascist. Conservative behavior is believing in smaller gov't (economically) and believing in moral behavior usually based on religion (socially). Believing blacks are inferior is rascist, NOT conservative. Believing anything about race is not a consevative/liberal issue anymore than believing the sky is frickin blue.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Which President was most responsible for ending slavery?

Which President was most responsible for ending Jim Crow? (The one that appointed the Supreme Court justice most responsible for ending it.)

Which party supported civil rights by a larger percentage?

Now, what has the Democratic party brought to black folks? In all sincerity, please name them. I mostly see a party that has brought a sense of entitlement (not just to African-Americans though). I honestly would like to know what Democrats feel their party has done for black folks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

when I said "conservatives" opposed civil rights in the 60's, I was including the southern Dixiecrats.

well don't, they were rascists, not conservatives. and remember, byrd was the big filibuster king of the movement and he was a democrat

Let me get this straight: Is your position that civil rights were opposed by Southern Democrats, and that Conservative Republicans had an admirable record on Civil Rights in the 60's?

What was the Republican position on the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Some might also call it racist to take for granted the vote of a particular minority--delivered at about a 90% rate wrapped up and tied with a pink bow by the black leaders/overseers of the liberal plantation, and then for that party to blatantly fly in the face of that minority population on moral issues--not to mention taxation, defense, and security.

Harlan was all for that gift until it went to the black dude instead of the wife of the first black president. Now he's outraged.

I've never expressed negativity towards black people for voting for Obama. I just want people to discuss it honestly.

I don't think it is a good thing that blacks vote for one party , it shows the country is not healed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What was the Republican position on the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

You can find it right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

The original House version:

* Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
* Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

* Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
* Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

* Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)

Umm... they supported it by a far greater margin than Democrats.

EDIT: Man, the Democrats had a huge edge in Congress back then (67-33 in the Senate, 244-171 in the House). Then also had the Presidency.