Interracial Relationship/Marriage: Are you for or against it

[Harlan Huckleby]

The point is, same ol' same ol'--The incompetent assholes of the left in this forum have yet to respond to WHY and HOW leftists are not the TRUE MODERN RACISTS--based on their aforementioned policies, positions, and programs designed to put blacks down, keep blacks down, and disenfranchise blacks by taking their votes for granted and disrepecting their opinions.

The problem with your theory of white liberals deviously herding their black sheep is that it presumes that blacks are stupid. You might try thinking of blacks as adults, making choices in their own perceived interests.

I don't completely disagree with you, in that it will be much better for all when blacks stop voting as an ethnic block.

I think you should retire that "racist" word. In debates about race, people of different political philosophies can ALWAYS call their opponents racists, there is always such a logical argument to be made. But it means nothing, and ends any chance for intelligent discussion.

Come to think of it, you do a lot of that

[Harlan Huckleby]

Some will try to inject hatred, rascism, and class warfare into every debate and muddy the waters with those accusations.

I was on an active forum at Washington Post yesterday, as usual complaining about the extremes of Obamamania. Somebody mentioned the "underlying racism" of my positions, and others started dismissing me as "the racist." it actually was effective in such a context. I just left.

[Scott Campbell]

I just left.

Some forums catch all the breaks.

[bobblehead]

See, it sucks when someone unjustly calls you a rascist while you are trying to make valid points....its a tactic of those that can't compete on an intellectual level. You don't do it, I respect that. Some do, and I have no use for those individuals.

Incidentally as sad as this is, I would never have gotten into this debate without being anonymous. Race remains such a hotbutton issue, its best to just avoid it. But until the left can accept that the right are equally as good hearted and express their viewpoints from a position other than hatred/evil/rascism its hard to get past it.

Incidentally, I don't want you to leave, its why I try not to get into pissing matches. I want to convince you that economic conservative values are better for everyone.

[GBRulz]

How did this thread take such a direction?

You shouldn't be surprised. Every freaken thread in the RR over the past couple months has to turn political at some point.

[Harlan Huckleby]

How did this thread take such a direction?

You shouldn't be surprised. Every freaken thread in the RR over the past couple months has to turn political at some point.

Any politics in the "Sex in the City" movie?

[texaspackerbacker]

The point is, same ol' same ol'--The incompetent assholes of the left in this forum have yet to respond to WHY and HOW leftists are not the TRUE MODERN RACISTS--based on their aforementioned policies, positions, and programs designed to put blacks down, keep blacks down, and disenfranchise blacks by taking their votes for granted and disrepecting their opinions.

The problem with your theory of white liberals deviously herding their black sheep is that it presumes that blacks are stupid. You might try thinking of blacks as adults, making choices in their own perceived interests.

I don't completely disagree with you, in that it will be much better for all when blacks stop voting as an ethnic block.

I think you should retire that "racist" word. In debates about race, people of different political philosophies can ALWAYS call their opponents racists, there is always such a logical argument to be made. But it means nothing, and ends any chance for intelligent discussion.

Come to think of it, you do a lot of that

Harlan, I am just bringing up the facts. You--who I don't really consider one of the forum's "assholes of the left' as well as the others who I do, can draw your own conclusions as to why.

90%+ of blacks vote Dem/lib. Indisputable fact, agreed?

The black population in general is at least as much opposed to the liberal agenda on issues like homosexuality and abortion as white people. Agreed? It's true even if some liberals want to deny it.

The black population in general is just as pro-American, patriotic, and concerned about our security as white people--diametrically opposed to leftist positions. Agreed?

An ever-increasing number of blacks are successful in the American economic system, NOT dependent on liberal programs, and in favor of NOT pissing away their hard earned money as higher taxes as pushed by the Dem/libs, just like white people. Agreed?

So why do we have this huge contradiction between beliefs and voting patterns? I'll leave that for you to answer. I doubt it's stupidity, though, so much as it is hypocrisy and demagoguery on the part of black leadership and leftists in general.

Oh yeah, for the record, I was CALLED racist by some irrational asshole of the left--which one I forget--well before I LOGICALLY started pointing out how those elitist wrongheaded bastards are the true ..... you know, the r word you don't want me to say.

[GBRulz]

Any politics in the "Sex in the City" movie?

Probably some conservatives are complaining about the frontal male nudity in it.

[PackFan#1]

Incidentally as sad as this is, I would never have gotten into this debate without being anonymous. Race remains such a hotbutton issue, its best to just avoid it. But until the left can accept that the right are equally as good hearted and express their viewpoints from a position other than hatred/evil/rascism its hard to get past it.

So you'd rather be ignorant than acknowledge that racism exists on the right side of the political spectrum? Somewhere at the far right lies the kkk. I'm sure by now everyone knows what that groups agendas are. On the other hand, a person who says he's a, say, ultra liberal, and is also a racist is not a true liberal; he is a hypocrite.

[texaspackerbacker]

Incidentally as sad as this is, I would never have gotten into this debate without being anonymous. Race remains such a hotbutton issue, its best to just avoid it. But until the left can accept that the right are equally as good hearted and express their viewpoints from a position other than hatred/evil/rascism its hard to get past it.

So you'd rather be ignorant than acknowledge that racism exists on the right side of the political spectrum? Somewhere at the far right lies the kkk. I'm sure by now everyone knows what that groups agendas are. On the other hand, a person who says he's a, say, ultra liberal, and is also a racist is not a true liberal; he is a hypocrite.

Nobody is denying that there are still a few KKK types out there, and they would probably be characterized as right wing (although Ol' Robert KKK Byrd is pretty far to the left).

The point is, though, that the policies of modern "mainstream" liberals, as I described above, reek of disrespect for blacks, while the policies of modern "mainstream" conservatives are very much in tune with the teachings of Martin Luther King and very much in tune with the beliefs of the majority of blacks--who after all, aren't all that different from most whites.

[PackFan#1]

Nobody is denying that there are still a few KKK types out there, and they would probably be characterized as right wing (although Ol' Robert KKK Byrd is pretty far to the left).

The point is, though, that the policies of modern "mainstream" liberals, as I described above, reek of disrespect for blacks, while the policies of modern "mainstream" conservatives are very much in tune with the teachings of Martin Luther King and very much in tune with the beliefs of the majority of blacks--who after all, aren't all that different from most whites.

Policies such as affirmative action and welfare programs are NOT intended to pull back minorities/the poor so they would become dependent of the government. Such programs are designed to help minorities/the poor develop solid foundations so that they could have a chance to compete for economic resources, and thus achieve the "American dream."

The diligent individual does not exploit such programs. She sees them as a starting point to a better life, if not for herself than for her children.

[bobblehead]

Nobody is denying that there are still a few KKK types out there, and they would probably be characterized as right wing (although Ol' Robert KKK Byrd is pretty far to the left).

The point is, though, that the policies of modern "mainstream" liberals, as I described above, reek of disrespect for blacks, while the policies of modern "mainstream" conservatives are very much in tune with the teachings of Martin Luther King and very much in tune with the beliefs of the majority of blacks--who after all, aren't all that different from most whites.

Policies such as affirmative action and welfare programs are NOT intended to pull back minorities/the poor so they would become dependent of the government. Such programs are designed to help minorities/the poor develop solid foundations so that they could have a chance to compete for economic resources, and thus achieve the "American dream."

The diligent individual does not exploit such programs. She sees them as a starting point to a better life, if not for herself than for her children.

I agree with you for once, they are not intended as such, but it is what they turn into.

[MJZiggy]

I thought the welfare system underwent reforms years ago to retool it away from being a crutch and more toward being the tool it was intended to be.

[bobblehead]

Incidentally as sad as this is, I would never have gotten into this debate without being anonymous. Race remains such a hotbutton issue, its best to just avoid it. But until the left can accept that the right are equally as good hearted and express their viewpoints from a position other than hatred/evil/rascism its hard to get past it.

So you'd rather be ignorant than acknowledge that racism exists on the right side of the political spectrum? Somewhere at the far right lies the kkk. I'm sure by now everyone knows what that groups agendas are. On the other hand, a person who says he's a, say, ultra liberal, and is also a racist is not a true liberal; he is a hypocrite.

I've acknowledged it, I am merely pointing out it exists equally on the left. People like you and the media, and the democratic party in general have done a very good job as labeling hate groups like the KKK as conservative..or right wing. How you would conclude I would rather be ignorant than discuss this in public is beyond me...I'm discussing it here, enlightening myself as you might say. You could conclude I don't want to be unfairly called names ,as you have done on this forum , publicly.

I have explained over and over why you are wrong in labeling the KKK and hate groups as right wing...I can't do it any better. I explain why its flawed and you come back with..."Somewhere at the far right lies the kkk. I'm sure by now everyone knows what that groups agendas are" I'll say it one last time...somewhere outside of the political spectrum lies the KKK.

[MJZiggy]

I'm sure by now everyone knows what that groups agendas are" I'll say it one last time...somewhere outside of the political spectrum lies the KKK.

Amen.