Interracial Relationship/Marriage: Are you for or against it

[Deputy Nutz]

I would have sexual relations with a black woman. If it is good enough for Thomas Jefferson, by golly it is good enough for this guy.

[PackFan#1]

I would have sexual relations with a black woman. If it is good enough for Thomas Jefferson, by golly it is good enough for this guy.

I would love to have a sexual relation with Rihanna. She's super hot.

[PackFan#1]

I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

Pretty much the only real HATERS left are liberals--your Jeremiah Wright types. Granted, they are probably a minority even among blacks, and they probably don't have many followers among whites (although that Father Pflaggert certainly was one). However, the only remnant of that on the white side is the all out real thing KKK types--which would probably be much fewer in number than the Wright type black racists. And of course, the biggest name Klansman on the scene is in fact, a liberal Democrat--Robert Byrd.

As for "prejudice", THIS is the area where the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats/liberals/either or both comes into play. WHAT COULD BE A MORE SICK MANIFESTATION OF RACIAL PREJUDICE/IMPLIED FEELING OF SUPERIORITY, etc. THAN PICTURING MINORITIES--BLACK AND OTHERWISE--AS BEING INCAPABLE OF COMPETING IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROGRAMS--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, SOCIAL WELFARE, etc.? That is indeed what liberals are all about. I'd be interested to hear any of them deny it--or to claim their attitude is somehow NOT blatant racial prejudice.

Conservatives/Republicans, on the other hand, believe in what Martin Luther King preached--a level playing field, treating everyone equally, etc. Do black people somehow enjoy having the government reaching into their wallet and grabbing their money as taxes? Do black people somehow enjoy having intrusive government get in their business and make their lives more complicated? Are black people less patriotic/opposed to America being the dominant country in the world? Are black people more likely to favor the gay agenda and abortion and all the other sick liberal positions on moral issues? NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW!

The black people I know are just like everybody else--good normal America-loving Americans who like hanging on to more of their own money, who for the most part, may even be a little bit MORE moral than many white people, and who really DON'T think they need government prgrams that assume they need to be carried along and given help. And you can say the same for Hispanics and pretty much any other minorities that liberals want to include in their elitist and PREJUDICIAL programs. .

Tex, you sound like Derek Vinyard before he went to prison. There's a scene in American History X where Vinyard makes a rant similar to what you wrote above.

[Harlan Huckleby]

JC Watts, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas. We include blacks in our ranks just fine. Again, I reject that statement out of hand.

Right. And the Mayor of Philadelphia and Tavis Smiley supported Hillary.

I am not saying conservatives can't be rascist, I'm merely pointing out that all rascists are NOT conservative and I would actually argue it is equally spread throughout the political spectrum.

I've been saying this all along. But 40 years ago it was a very different different story.

And BTW, back then there were many conservative Dems and liberal Republicans.

[bobblehead]

Tex, you sound like Derek Vinyard before he went to prison. There's a scene in American History X where Vinyard makes a rant similar to what you wrote above.

Actually, no he sounds nothing like derek, I have seen the movie twice, this is just another case of you dropping in for a potshot and making no real point. YOU are exactly the type of liberal I am talking about when I say you hurt the cause of healing past wounds. Its hard to come together as a culture when people like you will scream rascist at the drop of the hat because you have nothing better to add to the conversation....let me say it again for you.

I LOVE THE BLACK MAN (AND ASIAN, HISPANIC, INDIAN, ORANGE, BLUE OR GREEN).

[Tyrone Bigguns]

As usual, you conflate being liberal with being a democrat. Being democrat doesn't mean you are a liberal.

I freely admit that there are prejudiced people of all political persuasions, but racism is quite a bit different than being prejudiced.

I rarely have met a black person who thinks blacks are a superior race.

Ok, I'll play your game.

As usual, you conflate being rascist with being a conservative. And just cuz David Duke runs as a republican does not make him a conservative...he is a bigot and any member of the party would say so. His assosciation with the party is a disgrace, but you can't push a guy out who wins a nomination fair and square.

Please explain why he would win the nomination? Bush endorsed Treen. What position did he take that differentiated himself from the other republicans?

This oughta be good.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I have met several black people who think blacks are a superior race...Dennis Rodman comes to mind immediately.

Wow, you met Dennis Rodman? Did you ask for his autograph?

WTF? Rodman is not racist. He likes white women and his favorite band is Pearl Jam! You probably--note, I wrote probably as in I am only guessing--think Rodman is racist because you think he sometimes act like a "punk."

Yeah, anyone who acts beyond the "norm" of a conservative's narrow-mind is a punk. Those punk ass hippies. Those punk ass homosexuals. Those punk ass anti-war anti-Americans. Punk ass liberals.

No, I think rodman is thinks blacks are a superior race because of comments like....."you ain't had a real man til you had a black man." and "ain't no whiteboy who can defend a blackboy" or "the reason I love white women is they are comparing me to whitemen, so I always impress".

These are all close generalities to things I have personally heard him say. And I never said he was a rascist, he's not. He does think blacks are a superior race though which was the point.

No, he doesn't. He might think they are superior lovers and athletes..but, that is a far cry from superior race.

You make a huge leap in your logic. For shame.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

My god, how is it possible in this day and age to not know the difference...and to get it wrong.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

Pretty much the only real HATERS left are liberals--your Jeremiah Wright types. Granted, they are probably a minority even among blacks, and they probably don't have many followers among whites (although that Father Pflaggert certainly was one). However, the only remnant of that on the white side is the all out real thing KKK types--which would probably be much fewer in number than the Wright type black racists. And of course, the biggest name Klansman on the scene is in fact, a liberal Democrat--Robert Byrd.

As for "prejudice", THIS is the area where the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats/liberals/either or both comes into play. WHAT COULD BE A MORE SICK MANIFESTATION OF RACIAL PREJUDICE/IMPLIED FEELING OF SUPERIORITY, etc. THAN PICTURING MINORITIES--BLACK AND OTHERWISE--AS BEING INCAPABLE OF COMPETING IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROGRAMS--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, SOCIAL WELFARE, etc.? That is indeed what liberals are all about. I'd be interested to hear any of them deny it--or to claim their attitude is somehow NOT blatant racial prejudice.

Conservatives/Republicans, on the other hand, believe in what Martin Luther King preached--a level playing field, treating everyone equally, etc. Do black people somehow enjoy having the government reaching into their wallet and grabbing their money as taxes? Do black people somehow enjoy having intrusive government get in their business and make their lives more complicated? Are black people less patriotic/opposed to America being the dominant country in the world? Are black people more likely to favor the gay agenda and abortion and all the other sick liberal positions on moral issues? NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW!

The black people I know are just like everybody else--good normal America-loving Americans who like hanging on to more of their own money, who for the most part, may even be a little bit MORE moral than many white people, and who really DON'T think they need government prgrams that assume they need to be carried along and given help. And you can say the same for Hispanics and pretty much any other minorities that liberals want to include in their elitist and PREJUDICIAL programs. .

Tex, you sound like Derek Vinyard before he went to prison. There's a scene in American History X where Vinyard makes a rant similar to what you wrote above.

Please stop. You do a disservice to Vinyard. He was for more eloquent and rational then tex.

[bobblehead]

Duke won the nomination because like byrd he disavowed his rascist past (I for one don't believe either of them, they are both pigs), but more importantly he won because the populace was sick of politicians pushing affirmative action and entitlement crap down their throats and Duke gave them the only real alternative. I still wouldn't have voted for him, but he offered up what people wanted while disavowing his past.

I hope that was as good as you hoped.

As for this one:
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No, he doesn't. He might think they are superior lovers and athletes..but, that is a far cry from superior race.

You make a huge leap in your logic. For shame.
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If he believes they are superior in those areas, but doesn't believe they are a superior race, he must think they are inferior in other areas(to bring it back to even)....what areas do you suppose this is?? I'm just asking. This aughta be good!!

As for huge leaps, how about praising a 100 year old man and having that be endorsing his segregationist past? Would liberals feel the same about anyone that praises byrd today?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Duke won the nomination because like byrd he disavowed his rascist past (I for one don't believe either of them, they are both pigs)

Why do you say Byrd is a pig? I can't vouch for Byrd's racial feelings, but I suspect his conversion is legit.

It would have been very easy for him to leave the Democratic party and join the Republicans, as most southern racists did en masse after the 1960's. He at least stuck it out with the Dems at a time when they were the unpopular champions of Civil Rights in the South.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

Pretty much the only real HATERS left are liberals--your Jeremiah Wright types. Granted, they are probably a minority even among blacks, and they probably don't have many followers among whites (although that Father Pflaggert certainly was one). However, the only remnant of that on the white side is the all out real thing KKK types--which would probably be much fewer in number than the Wright type black racists. And of course, the biggest name Klansman on the scene is in fact, a liberal Democrat--Robert Byrd.

As for "prejudice", THIS is the area where the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats/liberals/either or both comes into play. WHAT COULD BE A MORE SICK MANIFESTATION OF RACIAL PREJUDICE/IMPLIED FEELING OF SUPERIORITY, etc. THAN PICTURING MINORITIES--BLACK AND OTHERWISE--AS BEING INCAPABLE OF COMPETING IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROGRAMS--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, SOCIAL WELFARE, etc.? That is indeed what liberals are all about. I'd be interested to hear any of them deny it--or to claim their attitude is somehow NOT blatant racial prejudice.

Conservatives/Republicans, on the other hand, believe in what Martin Luther King preached--a level playing field, treating everyone equally, etc. Do black people somehow enjoy having the government reaching into their wallet and grabbing their money as taxes? Do black people somehow enjoy having intrusive government get in their business and make their lives more complicated? Are black people less patriotic/opposed to America being the dominant country in the world? Are black people more likely to favor the gay agenda and abortion and all the other sick liberal positions on moral issues? NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW!

The black people I know are just like everybody else--good normal America-loving Americans who like hanging on to more of their own money, who for the most part, may even be a little bit MORE moral than many white people, and who really DON'T think they need government prgrams that assume they need to be carried along and given help. And you can say the same for Hispanics and pretty much any other minorities that liberals want to include in their elitist and PREJUDICIAL programs. .

Tex, you sound like Derek Vinyard before he went to prison. There's a scene in American History X where Vinyard makes a rant similar to what you wrote above.

Please stop. You do a disservice to Vinyard. He was for more eloquent and rational then tex.

I've never heard of Derek Vinyard or whoever the hell that is.

It is absolutely unequivocally true that elitist assholes of the LEFT are the modern racists for the reasons I described.

And for a pathetic wannabe like Tyrone who gets off on PRETENDING to be black, is it just me, or is that more than a little bit racist too?

[PackFan#1]

I've never heard of Derek Vinyard or whoever the hell that is.

Derek Vinyard: We're so hung up on this notion that we have some obligation to help the struggling black man, you know. Cut him some slack until he can overcome these historical injustices. It's crap. I mean, Christ, Lincoln freed the slaves, like, what? 130 years ago. How long does it take to get your act together?

Derek Vinyard: Alright listen up, we need to open our eyes. There's over two million illegal immigrants bending down in this state tonight. This state spend three billion dollars last year on services, on people who had no right to be here in the first place. Three billion dollars. 400 million just to lock up a bunch of illegal immigrant criminals who only got in this country because the fucking INS decided it's not worth the effort to screen for convicted felons.

Derek Vinyard: Well, this country is becoming a haven for criminals so what do you expect? You know, decent hard-working Americans like my dad are getting rubbed out by social parasites.

Derek Vinyard: Yeah it's race related! Every problem in this country is race related not just crime. It's like... immigration, AIDS, welfare those are problems in them. The Black community, the Hispanic community, the Asian community, they're not white problems.

Derek Vinyard: No. You know, no. They're not products of the environment either that's crap. Minorities don't give two shits about this country, they've come here to exploit it not to embrace it.

Derek Vinyard: Oh it doesn't? You don't think I see what you're trying to do here? You think I'm gonna sit here and smile while some fuckin' kike tries to fuck my mother? It's never gonna happen Murray, fuckin' forget it, not on my watch, not while I'm in this family. I will fuckin' cut your Shylock nose off and stick it up your ass before I let that happen. Coming in here and poisoning my family's dinner with your Jewish, nigger-loving, hippie bullshit. Fuck you! Fuck you! Yeah, walk out, asshole, fuckin' Kabbalah reading motherfucker. Get the fuck out of my house.

[bobblehead]

I've never heard of Derek Vinyard or whoever the hell that is.

Derek Vinyard: We're so hung up on this notion that we have some obligation to help the struggling black man, you know. Cut him some slack until he can overcome these historical injustices. It's crap. I mean, Christ, Lincoln freed the slaves, like, what? 130 years ago. How long does it take to get your act together?

Derek Vinyard: Alright listen up, we need to open our eyes. There's over two million illegal immigrants bending down in this state tonight. This state spend three billion dollars last year on services, on people who had no right to be here in the first place. Three billion dollars. 400 million just to lock up a bunch of illegal immigrant criminals who only got in this country because the fucking INS decided it's not worth the effort to screen for convicted felons.

Derek Vinyard: Well, this country is becoming a haven for criminals so what do you expect? You know, decent hard-working Americans like my dad are getting rubbed out by social parasites.

Derek Vinyard: Yeah it's race related! Every problem in this country is race related not just crime. It's like... immigration, AIDS, welfare those are problems in them. The Black community, the Hispanic community, the Asian community, they're not white problems.

Derek Vinyard: No. You know, no. They're not products of the environment either that's crap. Minorities don't give two shits about this country, they've come here to exploit it not to embrace it.

Derek Vinyard: Oh it doesn't? You don't think I see what you're trying to do here? You think I'm gonna sit here and smile while some fuckin' kike tries to fuck my mother? It's never gonna happen Murray, fuckin' forget it, not on my watch, not while I'm in this family. I will fuckin' cut your Shylock nose off and stick it up your ass before I let that happen. Coming in here and poisoning my family's dinner with your Jewish, nigger-loving, hippie bullshit. Fuck you! Fuck you! Yeah, walk out, asshole, fuckin' Kabbalah reading motherfucker. Get the fuck out of my house.

And you don't see how comparing tex to this is inflamatory bullshit....honestly??

[bobblehead]

Duke won the nomination because like byrd he disavowed his rascist past (I for one don't believe either of them, they are both pigs)

Why do you say Byrd is a pig? I can't vouch for Byrd's racial feelings, but I suspect his conversion is legit.

It would have been very easy for him to leave the Democratic party and join the Republicans, as most southern racists did en masse after the 1960's. He at least stuck it out with the Dems at a time when they were the unpopular champions of Civil Rights in the South.

yes, we went over the voting records and saw what champions the dems were.

And I say he is a pig because everything derek vinyard said, byrd said worse in his day. And can't you see how saying he could have left the democrats and joined the republicans is inflamatory bullshit....honestly??