Joe Horn - man of action

[Scott Campbell]

We really have lost our way.

Lost our way? I have a feeling that Mr. Horn's actions would have been in alignment with a vast majority of the original citizens of this country.

But go ahead and feel bad for the convicted felons who were stopped in the commission of yet another felony if it makes you feel morally superior.

Thou shalt not steal. It was the 2 perps who lost their way.

[SkinBasket]

Then you have a redneck state like Texas that extends the law...

Your argument loses a little effectiveness here. Not that it has much to start, but to the crow often goes the broken limb.

That and your extrapolations to dire situations of dead teenagers cleaning out their garage don't jive with reality (shocker...). This isn't a new law, harlan. Where are the decades of poor dead teens who were gunned down cleaning up around the house piled high on your position?

Oh, and you're conveniently spinning this guy's emotional response into motivation now? I guess maybe you're one of those voice experts. or you're just full of shit. Anger was his response. His justification was the law.

[Scott Campbell]

Now we're at the point where if you see teenagers stealing beer out of your neighbor's garage, you can waste them with a shotgun. LAter on, if it turns out they were just cleaning out the garage you are in trouble, but otherwise, cool.

Joe Horn didn't shoot teenagers stealing beer out of his garage.


Joe Horn also didn't shoot teenagers cleaning out his garage.


Joe Horn shot 2 convicted felons during he commission of another felony.

[Scott Campbell]

Anger was his response. His justification was the law.

Excellent distinction.

[Scott Campbell]

Thieves tend to be opportunistic. They look for easy targets, hoping for little or no risk.

So here's a question for you. If your a professional theif, who would you rather rob - Harlan, or Joe Horn?

[Harlan Huckleby]

That and your extrapolations to dire situations of dead teenagers cleaning out their garage don't jive with reality

???? So you are saying if it is a good thing if the dead guys are brown guys, but its a tragedy if it the dead thieves are white teens?

The case is the same either way, but you have pointed out another interesting thing about this situation. The jury would have fried the guy if he blew away local teens.

This isn't a new law, harlan.

Joe Horn apparently thinks its a new law. He argues with the 911 dispatcher who implores him to not shoot, "The gun laws have changed." Obviously the signal has been sent that the use of guns to settle things is more acceptable. Something has changed.

Anger was his response. His justification was the law.

I don't really get the point. He shot the guy because he was angry.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you criticize one solution, its on you to come up with a better one.

In this case, I would say let the cops do the job.

In general, I am ok with people having guns for self-protection. But the laws have to be STRICTLY written to limit their use to self-defense against immediate threats against personal safety. Not property. Not anger at your neighbor being burlarized.

[Scott Campbell]

But the laws have to be STRICTLY written to limit their use to self-defense against immediate threats against personal safety. Not property. Not anger at your neighbor being burlarized.

I think the laws are pretty clear about burglary being illegal. Those two guys wouldn't be dead if they didn't break the law.

[SkinBasket]

????...

This seems to sum up your understanding of this entire thread.

Joe Horn apparently thinks its a new law. He argues with the 911 dispatcher who implores him to not shoot, "The gun laws have changed." Obviously the signal is being sent that the use of guns to settle things is more acceptable.

The operator was looking out for Joe's safety, not reciting law to him.

I don't really get the point.

We know, Harlan. We know.

He shot the guy because he was angry.

Again, you know this how? Oh, that's right. You don't. He was angry that two fuck-ups were breaking into a neighbor's house in a part of the country where being a neighbor still means something. He was angry that he was watching two felons steal from the house right next to his own. He shot them because they stole the shit.

If what you say is true, why has Joe Horn never shot any other "coloreds" that he's been angry at before this incident? Could it be..... um.... maybe... they weren't stealing shit out of his neighbor's house?

[Scott Campbell]

If you criticize one solution, its on you to come up with a better one.

In this case, I would say let the cops do the job.

I think if you break into someone elses home, you've pretty much forfeited every right known to man.

[Scott Campbell]

Noobish DP. I'm so ashamed.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If what you say is true, why has Joe Horn never shot any other "coloreds" that he's been angry at before this incident? Could it be..... um.... maybe... they weren't stealing shit out of his neighbor's house?

yes, he shot the colored because he was angry that they were stealing shit.

I feel like I'm being interogated by a 4 year old.

[SkinBasket]

Double post!

NOOB!

[Scott Campbell]

I feel like I'm being interogated by a 4 year old.

That's not a bad idea. It'd level the playing field.

[SkinBasket]

If what you say is true, why has Joe Horn never shot any other "coloreds" that he's been angry at before this incident? Could it be..... um.... maybe... they weren't stealing shit out of his neighbor's house?

yes, he shot the colored because he was angry that they were stealing shit.

I feel like I'm being interogated by a 4 year old.

I'm sorry I didn't sum up your own argument for you so you could remember what you said 15 minutes ago you mentally crippled fuck.