Shoot um up

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Clearly, he coulda stayed inside and the police got there pretty quick as they were there to witness the shooting.

Agreed - staying inside was an option. But he had no legal obligation to do so.

Right. It is called common sense..and listening to the police dispatcher.

Now, your criteria is legal obligation. Fine, i don't want to hear you cry about legal options that don't favor your viewpoint then..."frivilous lawsuits," etc.

The bottom line is you and the rest of your fans would be singing a different tune if Horn had been shot and killed. Then, it woulda been.."shoulda stayed inside..shoulda listened to the dispatcher...shoulda waited for the cops, etc."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

He chose to go outside and confront them scott. No matter how you spin it, he put himself in the situation.

What spin? I've never argued that he didn't put himself in that situation. What are you talking about?

Exactly how many posts does it take you to answer one of mine?

Trying to run up your post totals again?

[Scott Campbell]

He didn't have to go outside and he coulda waited for his tax dollars to be utilized..that is why we have police.

It ain't against the law to go outside on your own lawn.

[Scott Campbell]

Trying to run up your post totals again?

Are you typing from the safety of your closet you pussy?


Why don't you just answer the question? Or are you afraid of that too?

[Partial]

I'm not going to bother reading this whole thing, but in my opinion, if anyone comes onto my property and threatens me I should be able to shoot them. Thats why its MY property. I'm not going to wait for the cops, and I'm sure as hell going to shoot to kill. Those jag bags that rob people would rather slit your throat then be reasoned with.

Now, if this person is

[Scott Campbell]

Exactly how many posts does it take you to answer one of mine?

Somewhere between 1 and 100. Pretty much as many as I fucking want Tinkerbell.

[Deputy Nutz]

John Horn is not a cold-blooded murderer, he murdered in anger.

Joe is a 61 year old retiree. You guess that he was angry, which certainly makes sense. But it also makes sense that he was scared shitless.

If those thieves were desperate enough to break in through a window, and rob that families house, it's not much of a stretch for them to be desperate enough to be potentially armed, and willing to shoot those standing between themselves and their continued freedom. In that situation, all Horn had to do was to feel threatened for an instant to be justified in pulling the trigger. What he did was reasonable. That grand jury had no choice. This case never went to trial - he wasn't even indicted.

People rarely get prosecuted in these situations no matter what state they reside in, or what the particular laws state.

Right. So, he couldn't lock himself in his bedroom with the gun pointed at the door?

He chose to go outside and confront them scott. No matter how you spin it, he put himself in the situation.

Clearly, he coulda stayed inside and the police got there pretty quick as they were there to witness the shooting.

Gee what on odd concept to step up and protect your property but also your neighborhood as well.

Instead you think he should hide in his closet. Thank god I will never have to count on you to have my back. You will run to the first closet you see and put your head between your knees, and whisper, "Please make them go away, make them go..."

Protect his property...what, was the grass in danger. The criminals didn't do anything to his property..and certainly hadn't when he called the police.

The issue was shooting them...because he either feared for his life or his property. His property wasn't in danger..and he put himself in danger.

You can't have it both ways...you can't cry and say he had no choice but to shoot them...when he did have a choice. He didn't have to go outside and he coulda waited for his tax dollars to be utilized..that is why we have police.

Real simple, neighbor gets robbed, you are most likely to me next. You witness crime, you could become a victim. The police claim that the criminal began to run at Mr. Horn after Horn told them to freeze and gave them a warning. These criminal would not have hesitated to go after Horn, that is until they realized he really did have shotgun.

Again he stood up for his community at the very least and I respect the hell out of him, it would be my honor to have him as my neighbor.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Trying to run up your post totals again?

Are you typing from the safety of your closet you pussy?


Why don't you just answer the question? Or are you afraid of that too?

Which question?

Perhaps if you confined your limited retorts to one larger post it would be easier to address them. Nah, that would be smart.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

John Horn is not a cold-blooded murderer, he murdered in anger.

Joe is a 61 year old retiree. You guess that he was angry, which certainly makes sense. But it also makes sense that he was scared shitless.

If those thieves were desperate enough to break in through a window, and rob that families house, it's not much of a stretch for them to be desperate enough to be potentially armed, and willing to shoot those standing between themselves and their continued freedom. In that situation, all Horn had to do was to feel threatened for an instant to be justified in pulling the trigger. What he did was reasonable. That grand jury had no choice. This case never went to trial - he wasn't even indicted.

People rarely get prosecuted in these situations no matter what state they reside in, or what the particular laws state.

Right. So, he couldn't lock himself in his bedroom with the gun pointed at the door?

He chose to go outside and confront them scott. No matter how you spin it, he put himself in the situation.

Clearly, he coulda stayed inside and the police got there pretty quick as they were there to witness the shooting.

Gee what on odd concept to step up and protect your property but also your neighborhood as well.

Instead you think he should hide in his closet. Thank god I will never have to count on you to have my back. You will run to the first closet you see and put your head between your knees, and whisper, "Please make them go away, make them go..."

Protect his property...what, was the grass in danger. The criminals didn't do anything to his property..and certainly hadn't when he called the police.

The issue was shooting them...because he either feared for his life or his property. His property wasn't in danger..and he put himself in danger.

You can't have it both ways...you can't cry and say he had no choice but to shoot them...when he did have a choice. He didn't have to go outside and he coulda waited for his tax dollars to be utilized..that is why we have police.

Real simple, neighbor gets robbed, you are most likely to me next. You witness crime, you could become a victim. The police claim that the criminal began to run at Mr. Horn after Horn told them to freeze and gave them a warning. These criminal would not have hesitated to go after Horn, that is until they realized he really did have shotgun.

Again he stood up for his community at the very least and I respect the hell out of him, it would be my honor to have him as my neighbor.

So, the police were there? Again, what is the need for him to be outside?

Again, you fail to acknowledge that he had a choice..he put himself in danger.

Would they have gone after him without a gun. Agreed. But, he wouldn't have been outside acting like a dumbass if he didn't have one.

And, your logic..that he was next...when? That night? LOL. When...5 years from now when they get back into the country...popo was there..they are gettin deported.

Standing up for his neighbor/community...that was done when he called the police. That was the act that was required and needed. Acting as the police to kill them as he stated on the phone wasn't needed.

Do you want to put executioners out of work in texas?

[Scott Campbell]

Trying to run up your post totals again?

Are you typing from the safety of your closet you pussy?


Why don't you just answer the question? Or are you afraid of that too?

Which question?

Perhaps if you confined your limited retorts to one larger post it would be easier to address them. Nah, that would be smart.

Yeah, yeah Tyrone - I'm stupid. Whatever.

It's the 3rd post from the top of the page. Even Einstein could find it.

You implied that I spun something that I never said. I responded. That's how it's gonna work.

[Scott Campbell]

Again, you fail to acknowledge that he had a choice..he put himself in danger.

I consider that a partial truth. All 3 of them were responsible for being there, not just Joe.

[Scott Campbell]

Again, what is the need for him to be outside?

Maybe he needed to get the mail, or wash his car. Or catch a breath of fresh air. Who really cares? It ain't illegal to "trespass" on your own front lawn.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Trying to run up your post totals again?

Are you typing from the safety of your closet you pussy?


Why don't you just answer the question? Or are you afraid of that too?

Which question?

Perhaps if you confined your limited retorts to one larger post it would be easier to address them. Nah, that would be smart.

Yeah, yeah Tyrone - I'm stupid. Whatever.

It's the 3rd post from the top of the page. Even Einstein could find it.

You implied that I spun something that I never said. I responded. That's how it's gonna work.

Oh, scott...you are so cute when you play the martyr.

If you post 3 times to one of mine, there is a good chance something will be missed. If you want a response, trying putting all your thoughts into one post...or are you like a young child that can't wait to show how bright they are?

Your spin is putting it in context of defending his property..when you know that he put himself in position to defend it...it wasn't in danger, the police told him not to go outside, etc.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Again, you fail to acknowledge that he had a choice..he put himself in danger.

I consider that a partial truth. All 3 of them were responsible for being there, not just Joe.

Again, spin away. Who is talking about responsibility.

We are talking about choices? Horn had several.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Again, what is the need for him to be outside?

Maybe he needed to get the mail, or wash his car. Or catch a breath of fresh air. Who really cares? It ain't illegal to "trespass" on your own front lawn.

Who is talking about legality. Just because something is legal doesn't make it smart to do it.

It is legal for you to walk down the street in whatever section of town you desire...but, it sure ain't smart.