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    Obama’s Inexperience Tough to Ignore

    Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:56 AM

    By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size

    A close look at Barack Obama's career reveals it has been even more mediocre than generally recognized.

    Before being elected to the Illinois state Senate, Obama worked as a community organizer and a lawyer in Chicago.

    In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.

    But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”

    “Just because someone writes it, doesn't make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.

    Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson's work, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.

    “Was [Obama] involved in stuff? Absolutely,” says Robert Ginsburg, an activist who worked with Johnson and Obama on the problem. “But there was stuff happening before him, and after him.”

    After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.

    Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”

    Instead, he said, “I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”

    Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.

    After going to Harvard Law School, Obama returned to Chicago, where he briefly headed a voter registration drive and then became a lawyer. While Obama’s campaign has touted him as a civil rights lawyer, “Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”

    A review of the cases Obama worked on during his brief legal career “shows he played the strong, silent type in court, introducing himself and his client, then stepping aside to let other lawyers do the talking,” the Chicago Sun-Times has reported.

    “A search of all the cases in Cook County Circuit Court in which Obama made an appearance since he graduated from Harvard in 1991 shows: zero,” the article said.

    Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — a total of 10 cases in his legal career,” the paper said.

    If Obama had virtually no impact as either a community organizer or as a lawyer, he was even more invisible in the state Senate and later in the U.S. Senate.

    In both bodies, Obama had a reputation for voting “present,” thus avoiding controversial decisions that could be used against him later. In the U.S. Senate, he has missed more than one in five votes.

    Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

    Contrary to Obama’s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.

    In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.

    The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.

    Look for John McCain to begin exploiting this vulnerability after Labor Day.
    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

  • #2
    Wow. Another unbiased journalist. Hello Newsmax.

    Fawning books on Bush and Laura...yep, no conflict of interest.

    Watching Kessler/Newsmax flip flop on Mccain is HIGH COMEDY.

    The McCain that Kessler wrote about:

    June 27 - "McCain has misused his chairmanship of the Indian Affairs committee for two years to attack me and Ralph Reed because he thinks we beat him in South Carolina," Norquist said, referring to McCain's primary battle for the presidency. "He has told people I personally spent $12 million to defeat him in South Carolina. He is delusional."

    July 5 article asking: "does McCain have the temperament to be president?" According to "insiders," Kessler writes, "McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

    What about Newsmax employee and former NY Repub John LeBoutillier?

    June 2005 column, LeBoutillier calls McCain "an arrogant, condescending prima donna," "a spoiled brat with a gigantic chip on his shoulder" and, last but not least, "a false image who, upon further reflection, is a total nothing. He stands for nothing; he says nothing; his record is filled with nothing."

    In a February 14 column, LeBoutillier called McCain "the angriest candidate of them all" and "the single worst human being any of us have ever met in the poilitical world – period!" (Italics his.)

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    • #3
      He looks like he's been around the block to me.

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      • #4
        I love the fact that she's wearing combat boots.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #5
          I'd condemn that little piece of crap, Obama for a helluva lot of other things before arriving at his inexperience.

          I ask conservatives, if some equally inexperienced wonderful America-loving conservative was in position to become president--J.C. Watts, Bobby Jindal, maybe Paul Ryan, would you be bringing up the experience factor? Hell no. So let's not be hypocritical here.

          Let's just stick to condemning the God damned America-hating socialist shithead, Obama, for his horrendous extremism on the ISSUES. I'm talking meat and potatos--skip the damn salad course which is his inexperience.
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          • #6
            Bigguns, you doubt any of the facts of the article or better yet can you disprove them? You dont think we're going to get this information from NBC do you?

            I think his experience or lack there of is huge. Why should we listen to anything the guy says if on paper, he's not remotely qualified for the job? As for Jindel et al, they're smart enough not to put themselves out there until they're ready.

            The bloom is off the rose on this guy, he should be up 20 points on McCain and his numbers are declining right along with his buddies in Congress.
            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Wow. Another unbiased journalist. Hello Newsmax.

              Fawning books on Bush and Laura...yep, no conflict of interest.

              Watching Kessler/Newsmax flip flop on Mccain is HIGH COMEDY.

              The McCain that Kessler wrote about:

              June 27 - "McCain has misused his chairmanship of the Indian Affairs committee for two years to attack me and Ralph Reed because he thinks we beat him in South Carolina," Norquist said, referring to McCain's primary battle for the presidency. "He has told people I personally spent $12 million to defeat him in South Carolina. He is delusional."

              July 5 article asking: "does McCain have the temperament to be president?" According to "insiders," Kessler writes, "McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

              What about Newsmax employee and former NY Repub John LeBoutillier?

              June 2005 column, LeBoutillier calls McCain "an arrogant, condescending prima donna," "a spoiled brat with a gigantic chip on his shoulder" and, last but not least, "a false image who, upon further reflection, is a total nothing. He stands for nothing; he says nothing; his record is filled with nothing."

              In a February 14 column, LeBoutillier called McCain "the angriest candidate of them all" and "the single worst human being any of us have ever met in the poilitical world – period!" (Italics his.)

              Once again, Ty rushes in to address the issues in the article. Ty exhaustively defends Obama's experience and seasoning, never thinking of resorting to ad hominem attacks on the article's author or trying to deflect the issue by concentrating on the other candidate.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Wow. Another unbiased journalist. Hello Newsmax.

                Fawning books on Bush and Laura...yep, no conflict of interest.

                Watching Kessler/Newsmax flip flop on Mccain is HIGH COMEDY.

                The McCain that Kessler wrote about:

                June 27 - "McCain has misused his chairmanship of the Indian Affairs committee for two years to attack me and Ralph Reed because he thinks we beat him in South Carolina," Norquist said, referring to McCain's primary battle for the presidency. "He has told people I personally spent $12 million to defeat him in South Carolina. He is delusional."

                July 5 article asking: "does McCain have the temperament to be president?" According to "insiders," Kessler writes, "McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

                What about Newsmax employee and former NY Repub John LeBoutillier?

                June 2005 column, LeBoutillier calls McCain "an arrogant, condescending prima donna," "a spoiled brat with a gigantic chip on his shoulder" and, last but not least, "a false image who, upon further reflection, is a total nothing. He stands for nothing; he says nothing; his record is filled with nothing."

                In a February 14 column, LeBoutillier called McCain "the angriest candidate of them all" and "the single worst human being any of us have ever met in the poilitical world – period!" (Italics his.)

                Once again, Ty rushes in to address the issues in the article. Ty exhaustively defends Obama's experience and seasoning, never thinking of resorting to ad hominem attacks on the article's author or trying to deflect the issue by concentrating on the other candidate.
                And, i see rand pretty much does the same thing..but, to me.

                Questioning the source material of an attack is quite valid. Or, is that only fair when liberals do it to Bush...ie, the "siniser, evil media" that tex deplores.

                Funny, i never see you saying anything then.

                Your hypocrisy is showing again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by mraynrand
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Wow. Another unbiased journalist. Hello Newsmax.

                  Fawning books on Bush and Laura...yep, no conflict of interest.

                  Watching Kessler/Newsmax flip flop on Mccain is HIGH COMEDY.

                  The McCain that Kessler wrote about:

                  June 27 - "McCain has misused his chairmanship of the Indian Affairs committee for two years to attack me and Ralph Reed because he thinks we beat him in South Carolina," Norquist said, referring to McCain's primary battle for the presidency. "He has told people I personally spent $12 million to defeat him in South Carolina. He is delusional."

                  July 5 article asking: "does McCain have the temperament to be president?" According to "insiders," Kessler writes, "McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

                  What about Newsmax employee and former NY Repub John LeBoutillier?

                  June 2005 column, LeBoutillier calls McCain "an arrogant, condescending prima donna," "a spoiled brat with a gigantic chip on his shoulder" and, last but not least, "a false image who, upon further reflection, is a total nothing. He stands for nothing; he says nothing; his record is filled with nothing."

                  In a February 14 column, LeBoutillier called McCain "the angriest candidate of them all" and "the single worst human being any of us have ever met in the poilitical world – period!" (Italics his.)

                  Once again, Ty rushes in to address the issues in the article. Ty exhaustively defends Obama's experience and seasoning, never thinking of resorting to ad hominem attacks on the article's author or trying to deflect the issue by concentrating on the other candidate.
                  And, i see rand pretty much does the same thing..but, to me.

                  Questioning the source material of an attack is quite valid. Or, is that only fair when liberals do it to Bush...ie, the "siniser, evil media" that tex deplores.

                  Funny, i never see you saying anything then.

                  Your hypocrisy is showing again.
                  Just commenting on your first instinct. Mine was to get in a barb, because I dislike you, and you returned the favor. I'm sure now, you'll do an about-face and explain how being head of the Law Review at Harvard made Obama the strong candidate he is today. Oh, BTW, I noticed he pitched his "The Surge Won't Work" position from his website. Like I predicted, he's getting closer to what will likely be his eventual position: that he was really in favor of the Surge in the first place.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    He looks like he's been around the block to me.

                    Michelle looks ready to kick some Cindy McCain ass. I like it.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mraynrand
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by mraynrand
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Wow. Another unbiased journalist. Hello Newsmax.

                      Fawning books on Bush and Laura...yep, no conflict of interest.

                      Watching Kessler/Newsmax flip flop on Mccain is HIGH COMEDY.

                      The McCain that Kessler wrote about:

                      June 27 - "McCain has misused his chairmanship of the Indian Affairs committee for two years to attack me and Ralph Reed because he thinks we beat him in South Carolina," Norquist said, referring to McCain's primary battle for the presidency. "He has told people I personally spent $12 million to defeat him in South Carolina. He is delusional."

                      July 5 article asking: "does McCain have the temperament to be president?" According to "insiders," Kessler writes, "McCain has an irrational, explosive side that make many of them question whether he is fit to serve as president and be commander in chief."

                      What about Newsmax employee and former NY Repub John LeBoutillier?

                      June 2005 column, LeBoutillier calls McCain "an arrogant, condescending prima donna," "a spoiled brat with a gigantic chip on his shoulder" and, last but not least, "a false image who, upon further reflection, is a total nothing. He stands for nothing; he says nothing; his record is filled with nothing."

                      In a February 14 column, LeBoutillier called McCain "the angriest candidate of them all" and "the single worst human being any of us have ever met in the poilitical world – period!" (Italics his.)

                      Once again, Ty rushes in to address the issues in the article. Ty exhaustively defends Obama's experience and seasoning, never thinking of resorting to ad hominem attacks on the article's author or trying to deflect the issue by concentrating on the other candidate.
                      And, i see rand pretty much does the same thing..but, to me.

                      Questioning the source material of an attack is quite valid. Or, is that only fair when liberals do it to Bush...ie, the "siniser, evil media" that tex deplores.

                      Funny, i never see you saying anything then.

                      Your hypocrisy is showing again.
                      Just commenting on your first instinct. Mine was to get in a barb, because I dislike you, and you returned the favor. I'm sure now, you'll do an about-face and explain how being head of the Law Review at Harvard made Obama the strong candidate he is today. Oh, BTW, I noticed he pitched his "The Surge Won't Work" position from his website. Like I predicted, he's getting closer to what will likely be his eventual position: that he was really in favor of the Surge in the first place.
                      Sorry, but as usual, you are wrong again. does it ever get tiring for you?

                      My first instinct was to ignore it...which i did for several hours. There is no point is countering "facts" as presented by "unbiased" journalists.

                      But, of course, you focus on the small portion of the post devoted to Kessler..completely igonoring the McCain portion. What a surprise.

                      However, there is legit concern about the source material. Or, if we take that source and use it as credible...then, i guess we have to take their opinion of McCain seriously. Which is it my conservative little friend? Ah, the conundrum.

                      As for Obama, i guess it would be better for him to remain rigid in his beliefs. That would be the smart thing to do...never waver.

                      Like Mccain. He would never flip flop.

                      1. SS privatization. "I’m not for, quote, privatizing Social Security. I never have been. I never will be.”

                      On November 18, 2004, for example, McCain announced, “Without privatization, I don’t see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits.” And in March 2003, McCain backed his President, declaring, “As part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings accounts are a part of it - along the lines that President Bush proposed.”

                      2. Defense spending. One minute we are going to spend more, now he is against it.

                      3. First Term Balanced Budget Pledge. Oops.

                      4. Estate Tax. June 8, 2006, McCain on the Senate floor expressed his agreement with Teddy Roosevelt that “most great civilized countries have an income tax and an inheritance tax” and “in my judgment both should be part of our system of federal taxation.”

                      Now, he insists, “the estate tax is one of the most unfair tax laws on the books.”

                      5.FISA, Domestic Surveillance and Telecom Immunity

                      “I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is,” McCain said. The Globe’s Charlie Savage pushed further, asking , “So is that a no, in other words, federal statute trumps inherent power in that case, warrantless surveillance?” To which McCain answered, “I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law.”


                      Holtz-Eakin
                      “[N]either the Administration nor the telecoms need apologize for actions that most people, except for the ACLU and the trial lawyers, understand were Constitutional and appropriate in the wake of the attacks on September 11, 2001.”

                      mccain
                      “It’s ambiguous as to whether the president acted within his authority or not,” he said, saying courts had ruled different ways on the matter. “I’m not interested in going back. I’m interested in addressing the challenge we face to day of trying to do everything we can to counter organizations and individuals that want to destroy this country. So there’s ambiguity about it. Let’s move forward.”


                      6. Restoring the Everglades.

                      “I am in favor of doing whatever’s necessary to save the Everglades.”

                      McCain not only opposed $2 billion in funding for the restoration of the Everglades national park, he backed President Bush’s veto of the legislation in 2007. “I believe,” he said, “that we should be passing a bill that will authorize legitimate, needed projects without sacrificing fiscal responsibility.”


                      7. Divestment from South Africa. Yep, calling on sactions against IRan like we had against S.AFrica.

                      Despite voting to override President Reagan’s veto of a bill imposing economic sanctions against South Africa in 1986, McCain voted against sanctions on at least six other occasions.

                      OOPS!!

                      8. Fighting Job Losses in Michigan

                      “false hopes that somehow we can bring back lost jobs,” adding that it” wasn’t government’s job to protect buggy factories and haberdashers when cars replaced carriages and men stopped wearing hats.”

                      But, after getting trounced by Romney

                      He would fight for new jobs and the state wouldn’t “be left behind.”

                      9. Opposing Hurricane Katrina Investigations

                      "I’ve supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy. I’ve been here to New Orleans. I’ve met with people on the ground.”

                      However he neglects to mention that in 2005 and 2006 he twice voted against a commission to study the government’s response to Katrina. He also opposed three separate emergency funding measures providing relief to Katrina victims, including the extension of five months of Medicaid benefits.

                      I wonder if this is on his website?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                        I'd condemn that little piece of crap, Obama for a helluva lot of other things before arriving at his inexperience.

                        I ask conservatives, if some equally inexperienced wonderful America-loving conservative was in position to become president--J.C. Watts, Bobby Jindal, maybe Paul Ryan, would you be bringing up the experience factor? Hell no. So let's not be hypocritical here.

                        Let's just stick to condemning the God damned America-hating socialist shithead, Obama, for his horrendous extremism on the ISSUES. I'm talking meat and potatos--skip the damn salad course which is his inexperience.
                        I'm with ya tex(minus the superlatives), we are no good at playing there game....critique, attack, put the other side on the defensive cuz we have nothing to offer...you know, like certain libs here do.

                        Unfortunately the republicans put up a candidate that isn't on the right side of the issues either, so where does that leave them??

                        Recent McCain work:

                        1) Voted against bush's "tax cuts for the wealthiest americans"
                        2) cosponsered "its not amnesty" despite immigrants around the world trying to do it the right way.
                        3) cosponsered liebermans $.50 a gallon gas tax to combat global warming.
                        4) headlined campaign finance free speech infringement.

                        I can't vote for that guy. Go bob barr
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          A vote for Barr is a vote for Obama.

                          Which would you prefer, the SURE THING of the horrors of an Obama Administration, or whatever percentage you want to ascribe to the prospect of McCain flip-flopping in the good direction on those issues, as he claims (I'm not sure what his current position is on Campaign Finance reform)? You actually left out McCain's far and away worst foible: his stance on manmade global warming. In addition, you have the large slice of issues where McCain IS solidly on the good side.

                          Anyway, I don't think Barr is much of a threat. It would be a disaster is he costs McCain Georgia, but chances of that are slim. Any other state he won't make any difference at all.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Freak Out
                            I love the fact that she's wearing combat boots.
                            Are those Prada? Is she certain that no one else in the room can afford the shoes she is wearing?
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #15
                              I have no problem with anyone changing their mind.

                              I have a problem with people who vote by party lines continually and have no real direction of their own.

                              Obama to me seems like someone who has voted by party line and abstained from voting at all when it is in his best interest. I sincerely doubt he has what it takes to "unite" anything.
                              My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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