Obama’s Inexperience Tough to Ignore

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The media reverence for Obama was on full display with the recent controversy over the New Yorker cover.

First of all, anybody with a six grade education could figure out it was a parody in support of Barrak Obama. They were mocking the stereotypes about the Obamas.

But then the notion that it might actually be interpreted as a negative statement about our Saviours was suggested, suddenly it was a crisis. There was a spasm of media self-reflection. I watched a 20 minute (!!) discussion with Gwen Iffil on PBS where Iffil was as somber as a priest giving last rites. The editor of the New Yorker was on to express his deep concern that some might have misinterpreted the cartoon as actually suggesting that Mr. or Mrs. Saviour hold radical views.

Compare this with McCain, who is constantly parodied as an old geezer. Can you imagine a backlash of panel discussions to decry the social evil of agism?

Media reverence? Look, i agree that many didn't get it, but reverence?

When the far right is against this type of thing...parody/satire..then i don't think you can criticize the leftist media.

P.S. McCain parodies himself has an old guy....witness SNL. Your argument really holds little water. Obama certainly couldn't parody himself as a muslim extremist...Fox, etc. would be screaming bloody murder about:

a) No joking about terrorism
b) Is he really an muslim extremist
c) We knew it all along
d) etc.

[Freak Out]

Come on Harlan...this is News! McCain has done it..so it isn't at the same level of newsworthyness.

And, for the McCain crowd to complain about the media is laughable. McCain long got a free ride with them

Its true that McCain has been a media favorite for about 10 years.

I like to think he earned that through his reputation for speaking directly and clearly. He was a good quote.

The comparison on the earlier McCain trip and Obama's celebrated grand tour is apt. There has never been a media phenomena like Obama in my lifetime.

Well, he certainly isn't speaking clearly now...confusing iraq and iran, sunnis and shia.

The whole obama media attention cracks me up. Sure, he gets a ton...a ton of negative....wright, emblem, muslim, madrassa, his wife, etc.

I had to laugh when I heard the "Iraq and Pakistan border" statement by Mac. He is old and works overtime so mistakes like that are bound to happen........yep.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Come on Harlan...this is News! McCain has done it..so it isn't at the same level of newsworthyness.

And, for the McCain crowd to complain about the media is laughable. McCain long got a free ride with them

Its true that McCain has been a media favorite for about 10 years.

I like to think he earned that through his reputation for speaking directly and clearly. He was a good quote.

The comparison on the earlier McCain trip and Obama's celebrated grand tour is apt. There has never been a media phenomena like Obama in my lifetime.

Well, he certainly isn't speaking clearly now...confusing iraq and iran, sunnis and shia.

The whole obama media attention cracks me up. Sure, he gets a ton...a ton of negative....wright, emblem, muslim, madrassa, his wife, etc.

I had to laugh when I heard the "Iraq and Pakistan border" statement by Mac. He is old and works overtime so mistakes like that are bound to happen........yep.

Yeah, i'm sure that won't happen if he is elected...the prez job ain't too demanding...plenty of time to rest...Bush showed us the way with all his vacay time.

I'm sure he can get in a nap every day.

[SkinBasket]

Judge Makes Girl, 9, Ward of the Court to Rid Her of 'Talula Does the Hula' Name

Thursday, July 24, 2008
AP


WELLINGTON, New Zealand — A family court judge in New Zealand has had enough with parents giving their children bizarre names here, and did something about it.

Just ask Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii. He had her renamed.

Judge Rob Murfitt made the 9-year-old girl a ward of the court so that her name could be changed, he said in a ruling made public Thursday. The girl was involved in a custody battle, he said.

The new name was not made public to protect the girl's privacy.

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

The girl had been so embarrassed at the name that she had never told her closest friends what it was. She told people to call her "K" instead, the girl's lawyer, Colleen MacLeod, told the court.

In his ruling, Murfitt cited a list of the unfortunate names.

Registration officials blocked some names, including Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit, he said. But others were allowed, including Number 16 Bus Shelter "and tragically, Violence," he said.

New Zealand law does not allow names that would cause offense to a reasonable person, among other conditions, said Brian Clarke, the registrar general of Births, Deaths and Marriages.

Clarke said officials usually talked to parents who proposed unusual names to convince them about the potential for embarrassment.

[bobblehead]

He is getting what he deserves for his free speech crushing finance reform. Anyone who couldn't see this coming is unfit to be president.

The comment is so disconnected I don't know where to begin. Media coverage has nothing to do with campaign finance.

Unless you are suggesting that without campaign finance, McCain could overcome the media bias with paid advertising. I guess that is the old Republican paradigm.

But even that makes no sense, McCain is not being hamstrung by Campaign Finance limits. On the contrary, he is at a crushing disadvantage in paid advertising precisely because Obama recently decided that Campaign Finance is a bad idea after all.

If anything, this election may be an argument for a mandatory version of McCain's weak legislation.

What I'm suggesting is that the media is very biased and now instead of being able to combat that with money, he has to try and do it another way. He basically put the media largely in charge of how information will be distributed. Now they have turned on him and back the democrat....shocker. In the past a ton of private money would be combatting that, but thanks to mccain fiengold they can not.

All mccain fiengold did is greatly strengthen the media...do you think obama beats hillary pre-mccain fiengold??

[MJZiggy]

Come on Harlan...this is News! McCain has done it..so it isn't at the same level of newsworthyness.

And, for the McCain crowd to complain about the media is laughable. McCain long got a free ride with them

Its true that McCain has been a media favorite for about 10 years.

I like to think he earned that through his reputation for speaking directly and clearly. He was a good quote.

The comparison on the earlier McCain trip and Obama's celebrated grand tour is apt. There has never been a media phenomena like Obama in my lifetime.

a friend pointed out to me the other day, that Obama got this coverage because he INVITED the network people to come along for the ride. McCain apparently forgot to mail the invitations....

[Kiwon]

Come on Harlan...this is News! McCain has done it..so it isn't at the same level of newsworthyness.

And, for the McCain crowd to complain about the media is laughable. McCain long got a free ride with them

Its true that McCain has been a media favorite for about 10 years.

I like to think he earned that through his reputation for speaking directly and clearly. He was a good quote.

The comparison on the earlier McCain trip and Obama's celebrated grand tour is apt. There has never been a media phenomena like Obama in my lifetime.

a friend pointed out to me the other day, that Obama got this coverage because he INVITED the network people to come along for the ride. McCain apparently forgot to mail the invitations....

HH meant "media creation."

I guess his coverage isn't influenced at all by the fact that 95% of the American media is planning to vote for him.

2008, the year that journalism died.

[MJZiggy]

No journalism died when TV went 24/7. Blame CNN.

[Kiwon]

No journalism died when TV went 24/7. Blame CNN.

Actually, young lady (may I call you that?), you have a profound point. That was one of the first dominoes. Good observation.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

No journalism died when TV went 24/7. Blame CNN.

Actually, young lady (may I call you that?), you have a profound point. That was one of the first dominoes. Good observation.

Some of the others:

1. Gay escort Jim Gluckert
2. 77 television stations were making use of the faux news broadcasts, known as Video News Releases (VNRs). Not one told viewers who had produced the items. Some by our State dept/bush.
3. Conservative columnists on Bush payroll. Michael McManus, Maggie Gallagher, and Armstrong Williams, a conservative African-American columnist, had been paid $240,000 by the education department to champion the administration's controversial policies in his print, radio and television outlets.
4. Bob Novak outing ms. plame..among other problems with his ethics.

[mraynrand]

Obama certainly couldn't parody himself as a muslim extremist...Fox, etc. would be screaming bloody murder about:

a) No joking about terrorism
b) Is he really an muslim extremist
c) We knew it all along
d) etc.

I don't think it would be just Fox. As evidenced by the uproar from the Obama camp about the Cartoon. There was an article about the late night guys saying they were having trouble making fun of Obama. I think it probably results from a politically correct sensibility (there's danger making fun of an ethnic and/or racial minority) and (with some comics, certainly not all) the reticence to make fun of Obama because they support the guy, and don't want to do anything to hurt him. But your list makes sense - if Obama went on SNL and did a terrorist skit it would be a disaster, mostly for (a) and (b). You can joke about terrorism, but I think the line separating what is and is not OK to joke about isn't well defined and I would guess differs a lot between libs and conservs.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Obama certainly couldn't parody himself as a muslim extremist...Fox, etc. would be screaming bloody murder about:

a) No joking about terrorism
b) Is he really an muslim extremist
c) We knew it all along
d) etc.

I don't think it would be just Fox. As evidenced by the uproar from the Obama camp about the Cartoon. There was an article about the late night guys saying they were having trouble making fun of Obama. I think it probably results from a politically correct sensibility (there's danger making fun of an ethnic and/or racial minority) and (with some comics, certainly not all) the reticence to make fun of Obama because they support the guy, and don't want to do anything to hurt him. But your list makes sense - if Obama went on SNL and did a terrorist skit it would be a disaster, mostly for (a) and (b). You can joke about terrorism, but I think the line separating what is and is not OK to joke about isn't well defined and I would guess differs a lot between libs and conservs.

WHat part of "Fox, etc." don't you understand?

[mraynrand]

No journalism died when TV went 24/7. Blame CNN.

Actually, young lady (may I call you that?), you have a profound point. That was one of the first dominoes. Good observation.

Some of the others:

1. Gay escort Jim Gluckert
2. 77 television stations were making use of the faux news broadcasts, known as Video News Releases (VNRs). Not one told viewers who had produced the items. Some by our State dept/bush.
3. Conservative columnists on Bush payroll. Michael McManus, Maggie Gallagher, and Armstrong Williams, a conservative African-American columnist, had been paid $240,000 by the education department to champion the administration's controversial policies in his print, radio and television outlets.
4. Bob Novak outing ms. plame..among other problems with his ethics.

Some of the others: Agenda journalism - making the story fit your POV, making up facts, including documents, 'reporting' using single sources, bias in journalism by choosing what to print on page one, what to put above the fold(which has been around forever - just go look at the Hearst Papers), headline choices, story choices, and level of coverage: (for example, 'Greta' on FOX, choosing to focus her broadcast on the latest tragedy, making it seem as though there are rapists and child killers swarming around our neighborhoods thick as fleas; or media outlets choosing to focus on prisoner abuse at Abu Grahib at a level far higher than say, the murderous enemy Musab al Zarqawi).

[mraynrand]

WHat part of "Fox, etc." don't you understand?

The 'etc.' part

[Tyrone Bigguns]

No journalism died when TV went 24/7. Blame CNN.

Actually, young lady (may I call you that?), you have a profound point. That was one of the first dominoes. Good observation.

Some of the others:

1. Gay escort Jim Gluckert
2. 77 television stations were making use of the faux news broadcasts, known as Video News Releases (VNRs). Not one told viewers who had produced the items. Some by our State dept/bush.
3. Conservative columnists on Bush payroll. Michael McManus, Maggie Gallagher, and Armstrong Williams, a conservative African-American columnist, had been paid $240,000 by the education department to champion the administration's controversial policies in his print, radio and television outlets.
4. Bob Novak outing ms. plame..among other problems with his ethics.

Some of the others: Agenda journalism - making the story fit your POV, making up facts, including documents, 'reporting' using single sources, bias in journalism by choosing what to print on page one, what to put above the fold(which has been around forever - just go look at the Hearst Papers), headline choices, story choices, and level of coverage: (for example, 'Greta' on FOX, choosing to focus her broadcast on the latest tragedy, making it seem as though there are rapists and child killers swarming around our neighborhoods thick as fleas; or media outlets choosing to focus on prisoner abuse at Abu Grahib at a level far higher than say, the murderous enemy Musab al Zarqawi).

Not that i disagree...but, your boy Kiwon said CNN was one of the first..so, pretty much everything you listed was well before that..and continues today.

So, i was listing things AFTER CNN/1980.